tuv: either can be used, I'm using 64bit I think 64bit memory usage might be slightly more but only by a very very small amount i think the difference in memory usage between 32bit and 64bit is about 5% i can't remember exactly though, I do remember looking into it before I decided which arch I was going to run and it looked like there is really no reason not to run 64bit hi do you have OpenBSD 4.8 template avail. now? will 4.9 be ready when it's released in a few days? thx. pilgrimd, whitefang: thanks afaict, arpnetworks doesn't provide resource monitoring facilities (cpu usage, memory usage, bandwidth usage, network traffic, ... etc). am i right? and if so, how are you guys monitoring your systems? i think they'll setup some monitoring specifically for you if you request it for bandwidth monitoring myself i installed vnstat bandwidth usage statistics and it records by month and stuff chess: I think most OpenBSD users in here are just running -current, it's damn easy to just boot bsd.rd from the serial console and upgrade to whatever release or snapshot you want to run bandwidth is monitored via cacti if you request it, not everyone uses it, so why bother drawing graphs nobody looks at by default? huh, I don't remember requesting it, but I got a cacti login and can see my bandwidth usage toddf: twobithacker : cacti graphs are now created automatically (before it was manual, so I didn't do it until requested) aah, will update pseudo auto regurgitation responses then. *grin*. lol so I should be able to see my bandwidth too? or do I still need to request from support? if you dont' see a link for cacti in each control panel you login to at arpnetworks, you should request via support@ to see it if you want to see it that is ;-) ahh. so I still need to submit a request sounded like it was automatic nw. pw now one of those. :) you're an ancient customer, get over it, request for all the extras everybody gets for free now with the new signups! ;-) you got serial console when you signed up by default, right? didn't used to even exist as an option ... I'm quite happy to have seen that improvement *grin* echo "make me one with everything!" | mail support@arpnetworks.com is there an arp ntp server? no real need... arp is pretty close to a lot of big ones Darn it... hung my emacs process. :) RandalSchwartz: serves you right for using Emacs. 'dems fightin' words heh emacs would have offered to correct 'dems' so obviously, azmarco isn't an emacs user. i value the little sanity i have left DaCa: yeah, I figured that was probably the case. I run -current on my laptop but my home servers usually stick with release i heard openbsd was developed in an igloo RandalSchwartz: that's so tempting i'm kinding wondering if cacti would show identical results as vnstat