if ARP didn't exist, what would the best freebsd hosting be for people who don't need a lot of handholding like me? I'm looking for an offsite backup, perhaps even a hot spare. but mostly an offsize backup to squirt ZFS streams towards RootBSD, perhaps? whoa - why isn't arp on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html hi RandalSchwartz hey fink RandalSchwartz: RootBSD has been good to me, and they're geodiverse from ARP. cool I've sent them a note to get a quote on more disk and to see if they mount a distro in the DVD tray like ARP and to see if they have ipv6 yet JohnCompanies is another option. Jail-based VPSes. No IPv6, though, and, worse, mgmt doesn't even have a plan for it yet. (That was actually the reason I switched from them to ARPN) yeah - I didn't see good info from JC the web site says "and we're supporting freebsd 8.0 now!" 2008 called... they want their page back. :) of course, xkcd comes to mind heyo! I just set up my FreeBSD server on Arp and buttoned it up nicely with pf and public-key-only ssh I want to make sure that Arp can still access the box via the arpnetworks user. I see that there's an ssh key waiting there. Anything else I need to do? how restrictive is your pf? apparently so restrictive that you can't even stick around to talk about it! so would it be blasphemous for me to install Ubuntu on my vm not at all kinda pointless though ubuntu is a desktop os not a server os I beg to differ actually there is Ubuntu server feel free. wasted breath though. :) I don't consider linux suitable for servers in general. :) indeed.. wasted breath How about I installed Solaris 11 Express then ;-) install* now you're just being silly :) its actually "not" that bad much better than 10 it's package manager is actually usable just the licensing is going to kill it eventually s/it's/its/ <<== professional writer one of my favorite irks its only real home will be in the enterprise, even there there's so much disdain for Oracle now a days yeah - oracle is strangling any goodness that sun once was on the other hand, sun sorta did that to itself I say this knowing Simon Phipps very well since he's the co-host of FLOSS Weekly on a routine basis also people putting an apostrophe after an acronym when its not possessive yea agreed Simon has an amazingly deep insight about the role of open source and was steering Sun in the proper direction but the recession killed Sun like many other valuable things :) and Sparc no longer is useful in todays world the recession nearly killed me Sun was a lot more than Sparc yea I guess I never looked at where they made most of their money assumed it was hardware Sun had a lot more hardware than Sparc. :) lots of x86 boxes yea their X86 hardware is crap and overpriced i say that with having quite a bit of it and thier Sparc hardware Sun Fire! which is actually the most solid hardware I've ever used is Garry doing FreeBSD 8.2 yet? it's not listed in the drop down box just put it in the comments I don't think he's updated the website yet ah yea no biggy