[00:30] *** ballen has quit IRC (Quit: ballen) [02:24] *** bitslip has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [02:24] *** bitslip has joined #arpnetworks [02:31] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [03:30] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [05:09] *** mjp has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [05:09] *** mjp has joined #arpnetworks [05:16] *** gogolok has joined #arpnetworks [05:21] *** gogolok has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [05:24] *** |dream has quit IRC (Quit: sleep) [06:06] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [10:24] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [10:26] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:04] *** robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:36] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:38] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:12] *** Zuul_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:14] *** Zuul has joined #arpnetworks [13:16] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [13:22] *** |dream has joined #arpnetworks [13:42] *** robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:46] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [13:50] *** |dream has quit IRC (Quit: sleep) [14:01] if ARP didn't exist, what would the best freebsd hosting be for people who don't need a lot of handholding like me? [14:01] I'm looking for an offsite backup, perhaps even a hot spare. [14:01] but mostly an offsize backup to squirt ZFS streams towards [14:02] RootBSD, perhaps? [14:03] whoa - why isn't arp on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html [14:04] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [14:08] *** |dream has joined #arpnetworks [14:49] *** jenn has joined #arpnetworks [14:53] *** jenn has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:55] * RandalSchwartz surveys alternatives to ARP for a hot spare [14:58] hi RandalSchwartz [14:59] hey fink [15:21] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [15:34] *** nerdd has joined #arpnetworks [15:36] *** nerdd_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:38] RandalSchwartz: RootBSD has been good to me, and they're geodiverse from ARP. [15:38] cool [15:38] I've sent them a note to get a quote on more disk [15:39] and to see if they mount a distro in the DVD tray like ARP [15:39] and to see if they have ipv6 yet [15:39] JohnCompanies is another option. Jail-based VPSes. No IPv6, though, and, worse, mgmt doesn't even have a plan for it yet. [15:39] (That was actually the reason I switched from them to ARPN) [15:40] yeah - I didn't see good info from JC [15:40] the web site says "and we're supporting freebsd 8.0 now!" [15:41] 2008 called... they want their page back. :) [15:41] of course, xkcd comes to mind [15:50] *** raptelan is now known as p`erce [15:50] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [15:51] *** p`erce is now known as raptelan [15:52] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [16:57] *** Husky is now known as sheath [18:08] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:48] *** danconnor has joined #arpnetworks [19:49] heyo! I just set up my FreeBSD server on Arp and buttoned it up nicely with pf and public-key-only ssh [19:50] I want to make sure that Arp can still access the box via the arpnetworks user. I see that there's an ssh key waiting there. Anything else I need to do? [20:16] *** danconnor has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:36] how restrictive is your pf? [20:42] apparently so restrictive that you can't even stick around to talk about it! [21:14] *** ballen has joined #arpnetworks [21:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen [21:16] * RandalSchwartz got rid of that arpnetworks user without realizing there ever was one ) [21:20] so would it be blasphemous for me to install Ubuntu on my vm [21:22] not at all [21:22] kinda pointless though [21:22] ubuntu is a desktop os [21:22] not a server os [21:23] I beg to differ actually [21:23] there is Ubuntu server [21:23] feel free. wasted breath though. :) [21:23] I don't consider linux suitable for servers in general. :) [21:23] indeed.. wasted breath [21:24] How about I installed Solaris 11 Express then ;-) [21:24] install* [21:24] now you're just being silly :) [21:24] its actually "not" that bad [21:24] much better than 10 [21:25] it's package manager is actually usable [21:25] just the licensing is going to kill it eventually [21:25] s/it's/its/ [21:26] <<== professional writer [21:26] one of my favorite irks [21:26] its only real home will be in the enterprise, even there there's so much disdain for Oracle now a days [21:27] yeah - oracle is strangling any goodness that sun once was [21:27] on the other hand, sun sorta did that to itself [21:27] I say this knowing Simon Phipps very well [21:27] since he's the co-host of FLOSS Weekly on a routine basis [21:27] also people putting an apostrophe after an acronym when its not possessive [21:28] yea agreed [21:28] Simon has an amazingly deep insight about the role of open source [21:29] and was steering Sun in the proper direction [21:29] but the recession killed Sun [21:29] like many other valuable things :) [21:29] and Sparc no longer is useful in todays world [21:29] the recession nearly killed me [21:29] Sun was a lot more than Sparc [21:30] yea I guess I never looked at where they made most of their money [21:30] assumed it was hardware [21:30] Sun had a lot more hardware than Sparc. :) [21:30] lots of x86 boxes [21:30] yea their X86 hardware is crap and overpriced [21:30] i say that with having quite a bit of it [21:31] and thier Sparc hardware [21:31] Sun Fire! [21:31] which is actually the most solid hardware I've ever used [21:34] is Garry doing FreeBSD 8.2 yet? [21:35] it's not listed in the drop down box [21:36] just put it in the comments [21:36] I don't think he's updated the website yet [21:36] ah [21:36] yea no biggy [21:45] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:54] *** khmerboy has joined #arpnetworks [22:01] *** ballen has quit IRC (Quit: ballen) [22:06] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [22:28] *** robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)