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|dream has quit IRC (Quit: sleep) RandalSchwartz: if ARP didn't exist, what would the best freebsd hosting be for people who don't need a lot of handholding like me?
I'm looking for an offsite backup, perhaps even a hot spare.
but mostly an offsize backup to squirt ZFS streams towards
RootBSD, perhaps?
whoa - why isn't arp on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html ***: fink has joined #arpnetworks
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nerdd_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) pilgrimd: RandalSchwartz: RootBSD has been good to me, and they're geodiverse from ARP. RandalSchwartz: cool
I've sent them a note to get a quote on more disk
and to see if they mount a distro in the DVD tray like ARP
and to see if they have ipv6 yet pilgrimd: JohnCompanies is another option. Jail-based VPSes. No IPv6, though, and, worse, mgmt doesn't even have a plan for it yet.
(That was actually the reason I switched from them to ARPN) RandalSchwartz: yeah - I didn't see good info from JC
the web site says "and we're supporting freebsd 8.0 now!"
2008 called... they want their page back. :)
of course, xkcd comes to mind ***: raptelan is now known as p`erce
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danconnor has joined #arpnetworks danconnor: heyo! I just set up my FreeBSD server on Arp and buttoned it up nicely with pf and public-key-only ssh
I want to make sure that Arp can still access the box via the arpnetworks user. I see that there's an ssh key waiting there. Anything else I need to do? ***: danconnor has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) RandalSchwartz: how restrictive is your pf?
apparently so restrictive that you can't even stick around to talk about it! ***: ballen has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen -: RandalSchwartz got rid of that arpnetworks user without realizing there ever was one ) ballen: so would it be blasphemous for me to install Ubuntu on my vm RandalSchwartz: not at all
kinda pointless though
ubuntu is a desktop os
not a server os ballen: I beg to differ actually greenskeleton: there is Ubuntu server RandalSchwartz: feel free. wasted breath though. :)
I don't consider linux suitable for servers in general. :) ballen: indeed.. wasted breath
How about I installed Solaris 11 Express then ;-)
install* RandalSchwartz: now you're just being silly :) ballen: its actually "not" that bad
much better than 10
it's package manager is actually usable
just the licensing is going to kill it eventually RandalSchwartz: s/it's/its/
<<== professional writer
one of my favorite irks ballen: its only real home will be in the enterprise, even there there's so much disdain for Oracle now a days RandalSchwartz: yeah - oracle is strangling any goodness that sun once was
on the other hand, sun sorta did that to itself
I say this knowing Simon Phipps very well
since he's the co-host of FLOSS Weekly on a routine basis ballen: also people putting an apostrophe after an acronym when its not possessive
yea agreed RandalSchwartz: Simon has an amazingly deep insight about the role of open source
and was steering Sun in the proper direction
but the recession killed Sun
like many other valuable things :) ballen: and Sparc no longer is useful in todays world RandalSchwartz: the recession nearly killed me
Sun was a lot more than Sparc ballen: yea I guess I never looked at where they made most of their money
assumed it was hardware RandalSchwartz: Sun had a lot more hardware than Sparc. :)
lots of x86 boxes ballen: yea their X86 hardware is crap and overpriced
i say that with having quite a bit of it
and thier Sparc hardware RandalSchwartz: Sun Fire! ballen: which is actually the most solid hardware I've ever used
is Garry doing FreeBSD 8.2 yet? greenskeleton: it's not listed in the drop down box RandalSchwartz: just put it in the comments
I don't think he's updated the website yet ballen: ah
yea no biggy ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
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