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bharatak has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) lteo: if i want to reinstall my VPS with a different version of OpenBSD using the bsd.rd method using the "SSH to serial" method, would i need to prepare a bsd.rd that can output to serial console? or will a stock bsd.rd work? toddf: heh you're obviously not realizing what points things to the console of com0
boot.conf aka /boot and boot blocks in general do this for you, all kernels have the capability to do serial console lteo: toddf: cool, thanks. so basically i can just use the stock bsd.rd and it will do the right thing toddf: youbetcha, if you see a boot> prompt on serial, 'boot bsd.rd' will do what you want lteo: toddf: i totally get it now. since a reboot of the VPS would get it into serial anyway, i will be able to access the boot prompt via serial, so i can boot bsd.rd from there
funny thing is, i have done this hundreds of times on pyhsical boxes, but somehow this "SSH into the VPS serial console" concept threw me off for a moment :D
toddf: thank you toddf: lteo: y/w ***: azmarco_ is now known as azmarco
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer jazz57: Anyone experiencing connectivity issues? toddf: I'm up via v6 ;-)
and v4.. ***: rgouveia has joined #arpnetworks jazz57: I'm having trouble on v4. toddf: std networking troubleshooting. ping gw. traceroute. etc.
define 'connectivity issues' /
? ***: BarberRonny has joined #arpnetworks BarberRonny: hello.
more people having problems with downloading files from outside the US to their vps?
mine takes 10-20 secs on downloading webpages with curl/lynx
[20:43][ronny@vps:~]$ time lynx -dump http://www.telegraaf.nl
real 0m19.852s
user 0m0.020s
sys 0m0.022s rgouveia: hi all .. I'm also having 'connectivity issues' as in cannot get to it... BarberRonny: 19 secs for downloading a website of a newspaper :-S ***: Wraithan has joined #arpnetworks jazz57: Pings are timing out, can't connect on ssh BarberRonny: i wonder if my vps is capped
outbound is much faster than inbound... Wraithan: I am seeing 30% packet loss,
:( jazz57: Packet loss near the arp end. BarberRonny: i dont have that yet jdoe: toddf: huge packet loss at highwinds.com.any2ix.coresite.com BarberRonny: maybe the other way hmm let me try jdoe: toddf: ~30% BarberRonny: yeah lots packetlooss now also 30%
that must be the reason
i sent gary a msg toddf: I get 0% packetloss on my vps at arp Wraithan: toddf: from Portland OR:
--- wraithan.net ping statistics ---
160 packets transmitted, 108 received, 32% packet loss, time 159320ms toddf: wild, from my vps to your vps, 0% packet loss BarberRonny: i tried big newssites in the netherlands like nu.nl telegraaf.etc
about 30% loss lteo: --- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
21 packets transmitted, 11 packets received, 47.6% packet loss
pinging www.google.com from my vps jdoe: toddf: well the packet loss is upstream. BarberRonny: yes
same here jdoe: http://pastie.org/1633728 ... % column is packet loss.. ***: DDevine_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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bob^^ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) jazz57: Here's mine: http://pastie.org/1633729 bGeorge: im getting packet loss as well jazz57: My monitoring service is also having problems from multiple locations. rgouveia: jazz57: I'm in .pt and my traceroute also stops on ge0-arpnet.cust.lax07.mzima.net (67.199.135.102) jazz57: Thanks, rgouveia. There's definitely something going on with the network. toddf: wonder if it is the upstream mzima.net ? ;-) ***: up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks
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up_the_Irons: Anything unusual happening on the network?
We're definitely seeing some packet loss. up_the_irons: jazz57: it appears level3 is having some problems today jazz57: I can't even ssh to my vps. up_the_irons: it appears kvr12 is also having some network issue as of 10 mins ago
i'm in the console, but I don't get any network connectivity jazz57: Figures. I'm on kvr12. toddf: who installed routeros again! </sarcasm> -: jlgaddis doesn't know what box he's on
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Any known issues with kvr12 ATM? bGeorge_: <@up_the_irons> it appears kvr12 is also having some network issue as of 10 mins ago hobarrera: Any ETA? jazz57: First problems I saw were at 11:31 ***: BarberRonny has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
BarberRonny has joined #arpnetworks hobarrera: jazz57: What's your local time now? jazz57: 12:18 hobarrera: jazz57: thanks :) jazz57: Sorry, I'm so SoCal centric! up_the_irons: hobarrera: I'm shutting down all the VMs now; will be rebooting, kernel upgrade, then bringing box back up. i would say 30 mins at the latest fink: all the vms? hobarrera: up_the_irons: ok, thanks for the info up_the_irons: fink: the whole network stack appears dead; i've seen this once before. will be rebooting. coobra: up_the_irons: will you rebooot it ? up_the_irons: coobra: yes ***: BarberRonny has quit IRC (Client Quit) coobra: no no no :p jlgaddis: up_the_irons will earn this soon =)
http://evilrouters.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/reboot.png up_the_irons: LOL fink: hah coobra: :D
lol fink: it's funny because up_the_irons looks just like him irl hobarrera: Gotta go, thanks for the info up_the_irons: hobarrera: np ***: BarberRonny has joined #arpnetworks
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bGeorge_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) up_the_irons: kvr12 is rebooting now; kernel upgrade already done bharatak: ah, just about to ask about kvr12 Wraithan: yeah, I packet loss is gone, yay! up_the_irons: i was able to get the networking back by restarting the networking sub-system, but i'm pretty sure that requires all VMs to be down (b/c they hold onto the tap / bridge resources)
yeah, my typing is fast now...
yay 0% packet loss lteo: looks good on my side too
thank you up_the_irons: np, but I didn't do anything. was a level 3 issue -: jdoe blames up_the_irons lteo: your presence resolved the issue :) insider: seems to work again :) ***: insider is now known as BarberRonny up_the_irons: i seem to have that effect on problems rgouveia: up_the_irons: still trying to connect here ... bharatak: rgouveia: mine just started up rgouveia: gonna check if I'm on kvr12... bharatak: what happened? rgouveia: mine is up too :-) ***: robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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compromised has joined #arpnetworks lteo: my coworker upgraded the VPS to the March 1 openbsd/amd64 snap and got "nvram: invalid checksum". are only certain openbsd versions supported? toddf: lteo: all are supported, you just need to note 'disable mpbios' in big red flashing letters across your upgrade procedural documentation
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/openbsd-hangs-at-setting-tty-flags-when-i-use-a-custom-kernel ***: compromised has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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just so you can have massive connectinos up_the_irons: azmarco: i like your attitude ;) DaCa: :) azmarco: some dumbasses actually put where they work (i work there too) -: azmarco facepalms azmarco: up_the_irons: i can't find you on there man ***: Husky has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)
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G has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: azmarco: search for "Garry Dolley" azmarco: boom up_the_irons: accepted! azmarco: holy shit
you know people at booz allen?
i work w some contractors that work for them up_the_irons: azmarco: booz allen? azmarco: booz allen hamilton up_the_irons: hmm, i don't recall azmarco: they are a decent sized contactor where i work fink: why does slicehost suck so bad? up_the_irons: fink: their STL site has had massive network problems today jdoe: fink: they're expensive for what they offer, and their disk is slow (but everyone's disk is slow, shared disk is always slow) ***: bGeorge_ has joined #arpnetworks bGeorge: another packet loss spike ***: bGeorge_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) up_the_irons: saw that
now I know why
huge traffic going to one vps on kvr12. same vps that had a huge spike earlier (and probably why kvr12 losts its networking stack) fink: we're getting /.ed? key: who? ***: bob__ has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen ballen: Anyone have best practice experience with ZFS RAIDZ? pilgrimd: Define best practice, but I have production experience with it. ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer_ ballen: comparing 8x 4 Drive RAADZ vs. 4x 8 Drive RAIDZ2
in terms of risk, performance, rebuild time ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer pilgrimd: Assumming it's the same 32 drives in either case, rebuild time would be shorter with 8x4. ballen: yep same drives
across 5 controllers pilgrimd: Performance is going to be about the same, since you have to calculate the same amount of parity. ***: cubelogic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) ballen: 8 drives per controller except for the 5th that'll have 4 ***: heavysixer_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ballen: wouldn't IOP be double on 8x RAIDZ pilgrimd: 4x8 Z2 will provide n+2 for any two disks. 8x4 Z1 is only partially n+2. ballen: as a raid set can only do one operation at a time pilgrimd: That's 36 disks, not 32. ballen: two os drives, two spare
I'll also have two 128GB MLC SSD for L2ARC
and two 32GB Intel X25-E mirrored for ZIL pilgrimd: I'm pretty sure ZFS can do parallel operations on a single vdev.
If it were me, I would configure it as 4x8-disk Z2, making sure to put two disks on each controller. ballen: hmm, once I get the hardware I'll have to benchmark it
yep pilgrimd: I think the other factors are a a wash at that point and that configuration gets you minimum n+2. ballen: right ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) pilgrimd: With 32 spindles, n+2 is would be more important to me. :)
s/ is//
Which OS, btw? ballen: Nexenta Core
I'll install Solaris 11 to see if its anywhere
any better* pilgrimd: We have a file server at work running that.
It's wonky. ballen: so n+2 with RAIDZ2 is good, but its not doubling risk to goto RAIDZ in this case
due to faster rebuild time
and > number of raid sets
how so wonky? pilgrimd: Maybe, but IMO n+2 and t(rebuild) = 2m >> n+1 and t(rebuild) = m ballen: well depends on what the actual difference in rebuild time is pilgrimd: If you just do things how Nexenta wants you to do them, it works ok, but we tend to demand more than that from the servers.
We have to drop to their "shell" to do most of the volume and iSCSI, NFS and CIFS server configuration bits ballen: yea I'm not going to use their appliance OS
but core pilgrimd: Ah. ballen: which doesn't have their CLI
or gui
nor the TB limit on the free version pilgrimd: Ours isn't the free version. :) ballen: indeed
Yea the plan it to play with Gluster on top of this
and see how well it would work to create a unified name space of multiple units pilgrimd: The NexentaStor box has been problematic. We're close to saying to hell with it and reloading the thing straight-up Solaris. ballen: Has Oracle change the licensing on Solaris
changed* pilgrimd: Just some pesky bits about the support contract being voided. ballen: at some point it was you could only trial it for 90 days on non-Sun hardware without a Solaris support contract ***: heavysixer_ has joined #arpnetworks
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fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) mattx86: the support.arpnetworks.com site is basically the same as e-mail support@, correct?
emailing* ix33: last time i emailed, garry opened a ticket for all further correspondance mattx86: hm.. cuz last time (been a little while), I couldn't get an e-mail to him due to some configuration error on my e-mail provider's part
meh, I'll just open a ticket :) up_the_irons: mattx86: it's the same, yes mattx86: up_the_irons: ah, thanks :) up_the_irons: np ***: cubelogic has joined #arpnetworks
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