[00:01] *** gogo1 has joined #arpnetworks [00:07] *** gogo1 has left [00:24] *** coobra has joined #arpnetworks [00:24] *** coobra has quit IRC (Changing host) [00:24] *** coobra has joined #arpnetworks [02:04] *** cedwards has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [02:15] *** cedwards has joined #arpnetworks [02:21] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [02:30] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:10] *** Zuul_ has joined #arpnetworks [04:12] *** Zuul has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [04:47] 7. acs007-lax009-1004-cr1.lax009.pnap.internap.net 0.0% 10 74.3 74.3 74.1 75.0 0.3 [04:47] a 7. acs007-lax009-1004-cr1.lax009.pnap.internap.net 0.0% 10 74.3 74.3 74.1 75.0 0.3 [04:47] oops [05:00] up_the_irons: is it possible to upgrade a vps to have more capacity in place or would I need to migrate to another setup if I wanted to upgrade? [05:01] raptelan: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/how-do-i-upgrade-or-downgrade-my-vps [05:07] up_the_irons: ahh, perfect, thanks. I think I need to stop being quite as much of a cheapskate and upgrade a little :P [05:07] I didn't realize I was using as much space on my current web server for images as I am :P [05:08] * raptelan goes to review pricing and email support@ :) [05:08] upgrades welcome! [05:09] up_the_irons: oh I had one other question - does it hurt your ability to do whatever you might need to do if there's no getty's on "physical" tty's, but boot messages and a tty only on serial? [05:10] raptelan: no [05:18] up_the_irons: cool, and email sent :) [05:18] cool :) [05:21] I was going up upgrade not long ago, but I'm too busy now to give it the attention it needs. It is running fine I guess. If it does degrade I will do it then. [05:22] I think my favorite thing about VPS's is easy (*cough* depending on provider *cough*) serial and kvm access, which is annoyingly costly with hardware. I used to do colocation and decent network hardware for those is *not cheap*. [05:23] With power the price it is, its not cheap to self host things at home even if you do have a good enough connection. [05:26] I might run a little ARM based board when BuddyCloud or something gets up to scratch - but I guess it also means keeping my modem running 24/7 which chews a bit of power. [05:26] Obviously I am a student. [05:26] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:26] So really I am better off just keeping it on the VPS. [05:28] buddycloud? [05:29] merky, internap sucks cock [05:30] buddycloud is kinda like diaspora - but not shit and run by people who know what they are doing. [05:34] * DDevine gets an idea. Adds it to "ideas" text file. [05:39] nice, buddycloud looks cool [05:39] what's the idea DDevine ? [05:40] *** Zuul_ is now known as Zuul [05:43] key: Secret for now ;) [06:00] up_the_irons: vpslink used to have some sort of java app thingy that I believe was a VNC client as it would show your vps console. I don't think they did anything with serial although that should be equally possible. In any case, it was a really nice feature, but one day "went away", and now they don't have any client access to vps's with broken networking. :P [06:02] * raptelan prefers serial via ssh as it's actually responsive via dial-up :D [06:08] *** Zuul_ has joined #arpnetworks [06:09] I got in a fight with VPSlink over their shitty provisioning lol. [06:09] Needless to say I wouldn't go with them again or their parent company. [06:09] *** Zuul has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:10] DDevine: I used to work there :P [06:10] Oh so you're the smartass that was giving me shit. [06:10] DDevine: no, I just did database/programming work a bit. [06:10] DDevine: I was there for less than half a year :P [06:11] DDevine: but uhhh yeah, they pretty much sux. [06:11] DDevine: a host server with 4GB of RAM and a boatload of swap would be hosting VPS's with like 64GB of RAM. [06:11] *combined [06:12] DDevine: the ironic thing was that vpslink customers actually have it a little better since they're less oversubscribed than the spry services, which cost more :P [06:13] DDevine: and if you like, you know, actually *used* your VPS, it was frowned upon, and you ended up getting moved to a "bad boy" mega-oversubscribed box with all the other people who didn't have a mostly-idle VPS :P [06:13] Yeah I don't understand why spry was more expensive. [06:14] DDevine: phone support. [06:14] Really? The LAST thing I want is to talk to some idiot on the phone. [06:14] DDevine: aww, come on. All non-escalated calls are answered in India. [06:15] Argh. [06:15] DDevine: I think you're racist. [06:15] No not racist I just prefer people who actually work for the company they are answering the phone for. [06:16] * raptelan might actually be wrong, maybe it's non-escalated e-mail that was answered from India... [06:17] anyways there were 8 indian folks, and Spry assigned them very southern american typical names...from some hillbilly tv show characters :P [06:18] "Pradesh, you go by 'Travis'; Ramakrishna, you go by 'Buddy'" :P [06:18] I'm not sure how convincing that was :P [06:19] DDevine: they are cheap though - I ended up signing up for some VPS's after I was gone to spec out a physical network before having hardware. That was kind of...umm...dumb. :P [06:20] the only really nice thing about it is that I could sit in a web browser, and provision up new servers in a matter of minutes, without ever interacting with their staff. [06:20] Yeah. You could probably use Amazon for that too. [06:20] DDevine: and I meant to put a ':P' comment after my racist comment since it was just a joke :P [06:22] Hey did you work on the billing system? [06:24] DDevine: aaaaarglthe painof the memories.... Not really, no, it was a real pile. Some 3rd party absolute junk. I had to write some reports on it though. [06:24] The piece of junk really screws you up if you accidentially provide the wrong payment details. [06:25] DDevine: it screws you in many cases. [06:25] * raptelan can't remember what the software wal called, it was some php/mysql thing [06:26] DDevine: I just remember that sql queries that should have been simple were really long and complex to handle all the weird exception cases. [06:26] DDevine: http://casey.shobe.info/images/Screenshots/Gabrielle2/gabrielle2-1.png [06:27] (that's my interface, not the software) [06:28] http://casey.shobe.info/images/Screenshots/Gabrielle2/gabrielle2-3.png [06:28] That should have been simple to write, but I'm not sure how bad the database was. [06:29] well it was like, I'd write some report, but it would be wrong, and I'd look into why and have to add some exceptions, then find it was still off, and add some more exceptions, and uhhh yeah. [06:29] it was real "fun". [06:29] I wanted to replace it but didn't stay there long enough to undertake that. [06:32] I was going to do some study, but its 12:45 now. I had better get to bed so I can get up before 12:00. [07:06] *** zeshoem has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:20] *** DDevine has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:24] *** nuke- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:28] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [08:28] *** nuke- has joined #arpnetworks [08:38] up_the_irons, I considered asking you, but we needed a place on the east coast [08:43] *** homosaur has quit IRC (Quit: pocketful of goat cheese, ready to party) [08:52] *** crazed has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:55] *** nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:56] *** crazed has joined #arpnetworks [08:56] hmm [08:56] had some weird issues with my vm [08:57] *** nerdd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:30] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [09:36] *** robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:59] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #arpnetworks [11:14] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:53] *** lucky has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:54] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] *** lucky has joined #arpnetworks [12:53] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [13:18] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [14:16] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:48] hrm, my IPv6 connectivity seems broken. [15:52] mine is ok [15:54] sorry for the confusion. I meant at home. and it was a bad route. fixed now [15:55] ah :) [16:26] *** tuv has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:26] *** tuv has joined #arpnetworks [17:13] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:47] *** DDevine has joined #arpnetworks [18:17] *** lucky has left "Leaving..." [18:54] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:55] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [19:00] *** fink_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:01] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:01] *** fink_ is now known as fink [19:09] *** ballen has joined #arpnetworks [19:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen [20:05] *** Blair_42 has joined #arpnetworks [20:05] saw on twitter you were looking for people to join .. so .. hi :-) [20:05] new customer here [20:07] wow, quiet for a channel with 74 people in it [20:13] sup [20:13] how ya liking the service? [20:20] arpnetworks is the greatest thing ever. 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[21:01] * Blair_42 is just lucky to even have a funtioning file system :-) [21:02] one question I had asked on twitter a couple times and never gotten an answer to .. how many customers are there per box? [21:02] Depends on the size of each VM [21:02] ram wise, not sure what Gary is using for servers these days [21:03] Garry rather [21:04] a friend who knows more about virtualization then I do told me about 5 but it seems to me like it should be more [21:08] *** chess has quit IRC (Quit: Darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye) [21:16] *** ballen has quit IRC (Quit: ballen) [21:18] *** ix33 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [21:20] *** robotarmy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:33] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [21:37] *** ix33 has joined #arpnetworks [21:39] *** fink_ has joined #arpnetworks [21:41] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:41] *** fink_ is now known as fink [21:59] *** Blair_42 has left [22:15] *** _Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [22:29] *** nerdd_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [22:30] RAM is definetely the limiting factor of the amount of people per box [22:32] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:35] *** nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks [22:45] *** robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:19] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [23:57] dferris: considered asking me what? ;)