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[10:12] <Jareth> Any Tech alive?
[10:14] <jpalmer> hi
[10:14] <jpalmer> tech is kind of a vague word,  so..  ask a question and see if someone can answer ;)
[10:16] <Jareth> Hi jeff
[10:17] <Jareth> I open a ticket to support, for asking a question with RDns, didn't get any answer, dont know if staff receive my ticket, have home internet issue
[10:17] <vcs> did you wait at least 24 hours
[10:19] <jpalmer> Jareth,  I responded to your ticket, with a ton of troubleshooting involved.  However,  I don't see that email in the portal.  give me a sec and I'll re-paste.
[10:20] <Jareth> Thanks Jeff! btw congrat for your good work, my VPS run very very weel
[10:21] <jpalmer> Jareth: I re-pasted the email.  let me know if you recieve it in the next few minutes.  (since I sent two of them now, don't be surprised if you get a duplicate later.
[10:21] <jpalmer> also,  if it doesn't make sense, I'm happy to try and help you over IRC.
[10:22] <jpalmer> hrm,  looks like none of my ticket responses have gone out this morning.   I'll have to see what's going on.
[10:24] <Jareth> I receive it, Thanks, 174.136.105.194 is set since yesterdays morn, and Didn't resolv in my side, oddly, I dit a flushdns etc.. and can't get it resolv for my ISP
[10:25] <jpalmer> that email goes through the troubleshooting I did to come to my conclusion.  but since you're here..    you need to add an A record in your zone for NS1 and NS2.
[10:28] <Jareth> I added ns1.xvision.us and ns2.xvision.us A record to 174.136.105.194 and 174.136.105.195
[10:29] <Jareth> sould be ok?
[10:29] <jpalmer> not yet.   read the email ;)  at the end, I mention that even querying your NS's directly gives a REFUSED message.
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[10:32] <Jareth> "You nameservers are refusing the query for PTR." hum hum, I try to figure out that problm
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[10:53] <RandalSchwartz> in other news... ICANN changes its name to ICANT :)
[10:59] <jpalmer> heh
[10:59] <jpalmer> ICANHAZv6
[11:04] <jpalmer> Jareth: I flushed my DNS cache.  but I still get an NXDOMAIN when I try resolve the A record for your ns1 and ns2.
[11:04] <Jareth> normal, I fucked both my named :p
[11:05] <Jareth> I re-do the setup from tarball, not the apt-get
[11:06] <jpalmer> Jareth: while I'm all for running your own NS..   sometimes,  I think it's prudent to ask yourself if you really need to.   are you doing something that could just as easily (or maybe even easier-ly!) be done by outsourcing it?   for example:  http://dns.he.net is free, and solid.   all you have to do is click "add zone"  and set it up.
[11:07] <jpalmer> or afraid, or zoneedit,  etc etc
[11:12] * RandalSchwartz seconds the he.net solution
[11:14] <jpalmer> indeed.  I know enough about DNS to run my own nameservers.  but I also know,  I don't have needs that make it practical.  I use he.net and similar services myself.
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[11:20] <Jareth> i will fix it, haven't running bind9 since 2 year, so need to remember something
[11:20] <Jareth> but thanks
[11:20] <jpalmer> np.
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[11:21] <jpalmer> btw,  if you DO want to run your own NS..  you can still use some of those other services to slave your zones..  giving you geographically distant secondaries.
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[12:02] <Jareth> jpalmer stille alive?
[12:02] <jpalmer> Si
[12:05] <jpalmer> nice,  I see A records for ns1 and ns2 now.  let me try PTR
[12:06] <jpalmer> still getting a REFUSED response for PTR
[12:09] <Jareth> yep
[12:09] <Jareth> i fixed xvison.us.hosts
[12:09] <Jareth> now dont know what's happened with my ptr file
[12:11] <Jareth> " eb  3 12:17:20 segfault named[30623]: client 46.102.243.139#34805: query (cache) '194.105.136.174.in-addr.arpa/PTR/IN' denied "
[12:11] <Jareth> mmm
[12:13] <jpalmer> ahh.
[12:13] <jpalmer> it's a zone, ACL, or format problem.
[12:14] <jpalmer> can you pastebin your "zone" stanza from the named.conf?
[12:16] <Jareth> jpalmer, http://pastebin.com/J8FR09ez
[12:19] <jpalmer> ok,  named-checkzone, and named-checkconf,  what do they tell you?   any errors in the logs when you restart/reload bind?
[12:21] <Jareth> jpalmer: http://pastebin.com/tJ9cdNmh
[12:21] <Jareth> it's my bind start log
[12:21] <Jareth> i see no error, only the PTR denied
[12:23] <jpalmer> and the results of the 2 checks I asked about?
[12:26] <Jareth> named-checkzone  no error, return "OK" and checkconfig same.
[12:26] <jpalmer> ok.  let me review your named.conf.  sec
[12:30] <Jareth> That's my rev zone: http://pastebin.com/Rfh3yMq7
[12:30] <Jareth> if you want to see it
[12:30] <Jareth> maybe it'll help :)
[12:30] <jpalmer> when i query your server from within ARP,  it works.    from outside of ARp, it doesn't.
[12:31] <jpalmer> I don't see a listen-on for IPv4.   can you verify using netstat that bind is listening on IPv4?
[12:33] <jpalmer> ok.  from within ARP,  I get responses over v4 and v6.   from outside of ARP,  I get REFUSED.
[12:35] <Jareth> hum oddly
[12:36] <Jareth> jpalmer, http://pastebin.com/mjK44WLK
[12:36] <Jareth> it the netstats result
[12:36] <Jareth> look fine to me
[12:40] <jlgaddis> i just popped in, but looks like an acl issue
[12:42] <Jareth> hum
[12:42] <Jareth> From my other us box, I can dig -x 174.136.105.194, Work, on my .ro box work
[12:42] <Jareth> from my .nl box not working
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[12:46] <Jareth> i got it
[12:46] <Jareth> need to add: allow-query { any; };
[12:46] <Jareth> to the zone setting
[12:48] <jlgaddis> you may want to make sure recursion is disabled
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[13:05] <Jareth> jpalmer, mmm i'll forget that, stille having problm, Can you set the reverse for me direct on the main server?
[13:06] <jpalmer> so you want me to remove delegation,  and set the PTR's in our NS's for you?
[13:06] <Jareth> yep will be more easy :)
[13:07] <Jareth> if you can
[13:07] <jpalmer> Jareth: I'm happy to do it (but will need you to update your ticket, and ask for it..  I don't touch the nameservers without a ticket)   but, are you sure you don't want to use a service like HE's free http://dns.he.net service?
[13:08] <jpalmer> keeping in mind,  I don't mind one way or the other.  I can setup the PTR's, that's not a problem.   just trying to figure out which solution would suit you best.
[13:08] <jpalmer> if you want us to handle PTR,  please update your ticket asking for the delegation to be removed,  and all of the PTR's you want set.  (IP and hostname)
[13:10] <jpalmer> afk a moment
[13:15] <jpalmer> back.
[13:17] <Jareth> Okay, I'll do that. Thx
[13:18] <jpalmer> np.  sorry it didn't work out for ya.  BIND can be a complex beast ;)
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[13:20] <Jareth> jpalmer, I just opened a new ticket
[13:21] <Jareth> Thank you
[13:22] <jpalmer> Jareth: np.  working on it now.
[13:48] <Jareth> jpalmer, if you answer to my ticket, I didn't receive the mail :p
[14:06] <jpalmer> Jareth: the request is done.  I'm not sure why the support queue is slow..  but your PTR's are setup and done.
[14:10] <Jareth> thankys! have a great afternoone
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[20:04] <mig5> heya
[20:09] <fink> hi
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[21:23] <up_the_irons> how's it going in here this evening?
[21:24] <vcs> good :O watching some star trek deep space 9
[21:24] <vcs> how about yourself
[21:30] <up_the_irons> nice
[21:30] <up_the_irons> doing well
[21:30] <up_the_irons> just doing some misc. maintenance of things around here
[21:31] <vcs> fun
[21:50] <phlux> 'lo, up_the_irons
[21:50] <up_the_irons> hi phlux
[21:50] <phlux> Not working too hard, I hope ;)
[21:50] <up_the_irons> just wrapping up some things
[21:50] <phlux> Aye
[21:51] <phlux> Thoughts on the IPv4 exhaustion?
[21:51] <vcs> arp is ready at least :P
[21:51] <phlux> True
[21:51] <vcs> gary will sit back and enjoy watch everyone else scrambling
[21:51] <vcs> haha
[21:52] <phlux> I find it funny that out of the 6 VPSes I have, only two have native IPv6
[21:52] <phlux> The rest are all tunneled
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[21:52] <vcs> native ipv6 is great
[21:53] <vcs> thank god for hurricane electric
[21:53] <vcs> they will come out on top of all this
[21:53] <vcs> thanks to their vigilant adoption of ipv6
[21:59] <phlux> Any of you in here have an IRCd/services preference? I'm using ShadowIRCd(a charybdis fork) and atheme, but I'd probably be using IRCu+srvx if it supported iris and qwebirc better.
[22:03] <mig5> hi guys, new customer here, just wanted to say thanks for a quick vps setup
[22:03] <mig5> enjoying the native ipv6 :)
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[22:20] <up_the_irons> mig5: glad you like it :)
[22:26] <vcs> ratbox
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[23:31] <G> up_the_irons: nice deal for new customers
[23:31] <G> up_the_irons: might have one for you when I see them online next
[23:31] <up_the_irons> G: sweet :)
[23:32] <G> some previous provider as me, and I think he agrees with some of the stuff I've been saying, so he might switch
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