#arpnetworks 2011-02-01,Tue

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Who	What	When
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RandalSchwartz	apnic got their two /8's. That's it final 5 get handed out "soon" "Gentlemen... we've reached the end of the internet!"	[02:40]
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nesta	RandalSchwartz: woweee	[02:48]
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bob^^	NAT for all!	[03:44]
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zxvff	names	[05:29]
nesta	beeeeep	[05:29]
zxvff	dear arpnetworks i am very sorry that my machine was using an unfair amount of load on the host machine and i will never do that again	[05:29]
nesta	hmm	[05:31]
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jlgaddis	jlgaddis reaches under the desk for the cluebat	[06:19]
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nesta	wb mike-burns :)	[07:27]
mike-burns	Heh.	[07:27]
nesta	or should I say fg :P	[07:27]
mike-burns	Hah, took me a second.	[07:29]
nesta	heheh you know when people do this nesta & I always do fg right after but I don't think anyone ever gets it :(	[07:30]
mike-burns	I never see people do /me & But that's witty. I might add a `disown', too.	[07:30]
nesta	hehe	[07:32]
coil	i've only seen one person do /me & synapze heh	[07:32]
nesta	sup coil cat	[07:33]
coil	doing spanish homework heh	[07:33]
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jlgaddis	years ago, we used to use "/me & # doing $whatever"	[07:56]
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cedwards	does anyone know any tricks to finding Perl port names based on output like: Can't locate IO/Socket/SSL.pm	[12:09]
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toddf	cedwards: basically start with s///-/g;s/.pm$//; and see if that matches. if that doesn't, nix one -* thing at a time. i.e. in that case start with IO-Socket-SSL and if that does not exist, IO-Socket, then IO .. also look on cpan for it	[13:14]
cedwards	thanks	[13:23]
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up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: apnic got two more /8's ?	[14:10]
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toddf	up_the_irons: it's all over .. ;-) @stevedew I love the irony of [APNIC] being an anagram for PANIC! - Nice! .. hah	[14:13]
up_the_irons	lol	[14:14]
toddf	http://bit.ly/fi3uLT	[14:14]
jpalmer	up_the_irons: febuary 3rd at 10am EST is the press conference up_the_irons: http://www.nro.net/news/icann-nro-live-stream	[14:14]
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fink	toddf: don't forget your towels	[14:15]
toddf	?	[14:15]
up_the_irons	jpalmer: whoa	[14:15]
fink	toddf: hitchhiker reference	[14:16]
toddf	fink: not a follower... ;-)	[14:16]
jpalmer	jpalmer decides to head home. jpalmer hopes he can make it home in 42 minutes.	[14:16]
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DDevine	Greetings.	[21:39]
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up_the_irons	DDevine: greetings HighJinx: you're flapping	[21:42]
HighJinx	up_the_irons yep, att suckin as usual	[21:43]
up_the_irons	ah	[21:43]
lucky	irssi on your VPS! :P	[21:47]
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coobra	up_the_irons: there ?	[22:02]
up_the_irons	coobra: yeah	[22:02]
coobra	up_the_irons: when do you send the bill ??	[22:02]
up_the_irons	coobra: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/when-is-the-start-of-the-billing-cycle	[22:04]
coobra	up_the_irons: its feb 2 up_the_irons: no money drawn :(	[22:04]
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up_the_irons	coobra: not the 2nd for me :)	[22:05]
Jareth	If I buy a vps, what's the delay for get it?	[22:07]
up_the_irons	Jareth: i'm doing a round of orders tonight Jareth: so within a few hours	[22:14]
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amdprophet	up_the_irons: internet access sucks in Canada now, can I live in the cage at your datacenter?	[22:19]
coobra	up_the_irons: ahha :D up_the_irons: if i pay for 1year can i get some %	[22:19]
up_the_irons	coobra: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance i need a bot to spit this stuff out ;) amdprophet: sure, the sq. ft. rent is pretty pricey though ;)	[22:20]
amdprophet	ruby script time! what if I can fit myself into one of those clown boxes? I'm not flexible at all... but I'll find a way	[22:20]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: ok	[22:22]
coobra	up_the_irons: ohh thanks :D	[22:25]
up_the_irons	:)	[22:25]
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Jareth	ok thanks up_the_irons, I will signup in 5 Minute!	[22:26]
up_the_irons	Jareth: :)	[22:26]
coobra	up_the_irons: can you do so that the ips i have goes to homebsd.net in th whois on ips	[22:28]
up_the_irons	coobra: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/how-do-i-change-what-appears-in-arins-whois-for-my-ip-block	[22:30]
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Jareth	done up_the_irons :)	[22:37]
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merky	oh with a /29 you can have your own whois informatin? oh you have to do it for /29	[22:39]
up_the_irons	Jareth: cool! merky: yup	[22:42]
merky	weird. apnic isn't like that i was finding geoip didn't work on my ip before	[22:46]
jlgaddis	it's an arin requirement, iirc	[22:47]
merky	but so many hosting places have wrong geoip it's not fnuny	[22:47]
muskyhusky	im in quebec :D according to geobytes	[22:47]
merky	oh it's udpated now anyway it seems? It says Ca, Sylmar	[22:47]
muskyhusky	but some places say san jose lol	[22:48]
merky	I've never even heard of Sylmar haha Sylmar is a district in the San Fernando Valley region of the City of Los Angeles, California. The northernmost neighborhood in the city, Sylmar is located east of Interstate 5 and north of the city of San Fernando. Sylmar was once the site of the world's second largest olive groves[citation needed].hence its name, which means "Sea of Trees". think is often people buy an ip address block and use it in multiple locations / split it up, and don't update whois which makes me wonder about this whole /29 contact information thing but i suppose that doesn't apply if it's the same company oh now you're around up_the_irons ... is there a 5 megabit limit on udp ?	[22:48]
up_the_irons	merky: yes, unless it is an openvpn port	[22:52]
merky	so that's to prevent abuse more than anything else?	[22:52]
up_the_irons	merky: what are you doing that needs more than 5 mbps of udp? :) yup, abuse	[22:52]
merky	up_the_irons: iperf currently i use it to test packet loss	[22:52]
up_the_irons	yeah, that limit is to keep shitheads from dos'ing other networks	[22:53]
merky	hmm is it possible to exclude it to a certain range?	[22:53]
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merky	cos i've also been playing with this thing called udt: http://udt.sourceforge.net/ it does data transfers using udp tcp/ip is atrocious with packet loss	[22:56]
up_the_irons	merky: I can disable the rate limit on your vlan, yes	[22:58]
merky	oh cool does this mean i have to figure out what vlan i'm on? hmm i can't access graphs.arpnetworks.com oh it missed a / and had cacti on the end	[22:58]
muskyhusky	merky, thats my problem in chrome	[23:00]
merky	and now it's forgotten my pasword	[23:00]
muskyhusky	i think in ie it works tho	[23:00]
up_the_irons	merky: just PM me your vps uuid, and i'll look it up	[23:00]
merky	err where's uuid? in portal?	[23:00]
up_the_irons	merky: yes	[23:00]
merky	got it	[23:00]
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up_the_irons	merky: removed	[23:02]
merky	cool	[23:02]
muskyhusky	http://www.speedtest.net/result/1138817625.png	[23:03]
jlgaddis	jlgaddis goes searching to find his password for the portal	[23:03]
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merky	that's a big ping	[23:03]
muskyhusky	over vpn	[23:03]
merky	from where?	[23:04]
muskyhusky	fl	[23:05]
merky	oh you know it's faster if you use a proxy on the vpn host? cos tcp gets slower the further away you are	[23:05]
muskyhusky	what like squid?	[23:07]
merky	yeah	[23:07]
G	heh: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1138825114.png	[23:08]
merky	ouch	[23:08]
muskyhusky	im not using it for web tho	[23:08]
merky	10.45megabit socks proxy then?	[23:09]
G	merky: the shock has yet to come	[23:09]
merky	http://www.speedtest.net/result/1138826542.png	[23:09]
G	merky: my native connection: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1138826489.png i.e. my VPN is actually faster marginly	[23:09]
merky	your ping is less than mine god orcon suck i've been trying to get them to fix national speeds oh what are your national speeds like G?	[23:10]
G	merky: they don't actually	[23:10]
muskyhusky	is that a cell phone or something?	[23:10]
G	2mbit muskyhusky: rural ADSL	[23:10]
muskyhusky	oh heh	[23:11]
merky	what sync rate?	[23:11]
G	merky: depends on the day, and if Telecom are fiddling with cables, but anything between 1800-2400	[23:11]
merky	hmm	[23:11]
jlgaddis	heh, if i go to speedtest the default server is "0 ms" away	[23:11]
merky	so you could get at least 200k/sec	[23:11]
G	merky: yeah, which is bareable merky: and it's good enough for TVNZ On Demand etc merky: problem is, I'm really annoyed at Telecom	[23:12]
merky	real my sync rate is about 20 megabit but with snap national speeds are good	[23:12]
G	Telecom are the ones really shafting my speed	[23:13]
merky	2.1megs/sec	[23:13]
G	I actually downloaded the Chorus spreadsheet w/ all the cabinets on it, the cabinet I'm connected to isn't even listed	[23:13]
merky	haha	[23:13]
G	which I'm guessing also means that they aren't even going to bother putting at least an old ADSL1 DSLAM in it if they did that I'd get about 6mbit I reckon	[23:14]
merky	oh are you on g.dmt or whatever? or glite gah i can't evenremember what they're called the slow one	[23:14]
G	merky: yeah, the exchange I'm on isn't even ADSL2+ yet	[23:15]
merky	i'm on a cabinet	[23:15]
G	September 2011 from last count	[23:15]
merky	but international speeds still suck god i hate spam bounces postmaster gets so much spam frmo spam blocking etc bouncing shit you never sent them i have spf records god damnit and they say that only my ip's will email	[23:15]
G	merky: but yeah, g.dmt/T1.<something> are the only profiles that really get used on ADSL1 exchanges	[23:17]
merky	oh ok maybe you should get satelitte?	[23:17]
coobra	up_the_irons: ahah thanks i cant log into the portal :(	[23:18]
merky	sell it to your neighbours over point-to-point wireless	[23:18]
G	merky: with farmside etc?	[23:18]
up_the_irons	coobra: use forgot password link	[23:18]
jlgaddis	up_the_irons: totally low priority support request coming your way	[23:18]
merky	farmside?	[23:18]
G	merky: 2mbit is bareable for now :)	[23:18]
up_the_irons	up_the_irons files it under "Uber low priority"	[23:18]
G	merky: Satellite provider	[23:19]
coobra	up_the_irons: ahha :p	[23:19]
merky	you could get 10 dsl connections and multiplex them and start selling fast internet with wireless ahh ok	[23:19]
G	merky: I think I might just move to a subdivision that has the World Exchange fibre to the home build a house there :)	[23:19]
merky	ahh cool tbh i think 100 megabit wouldn't piss me off that quickly for a cap i'd still find the international speeds sucking though rpobably	[23:20]
G	merky: well under the trial period they are limiting all connections to 30mbit	[23:20]
jlgaddis	up_the_irons: heh, seriously. i wanna do a clean install at some point but it might be a month before i get around to it.	[23:20]
G	merky: which is logical, due to lack of backhaul etc	[23:20]
merky	i really noticed difference between 7 and 16 megabit though probably low latency	[23:21]
jlgaddis	i have 3 mbit/s at home and that's plenty for me	[23:21]
G	merky: anyway, lucky to be on a Cabinet I must say	[23:22]
merky	jlg: you ever tried anything faster? actually have you ever tried using facebook?	[23:22]
G	merky: I had ~23mbit when I was living in Brisbane	[23:22]
jlgaddis	merky: i have several gigabits at work, with a gig to my desktops	[23:22]
merky	g: that's how i went 7 to 16 megabit 16 to 18 megabit was modem change	[23:22]
jlgaddis	90% of the time all i have open are ssh sessions and mail anyway	[23:22]
G	anyway, Castle is on, so I'm off ;)	[23:23]
merky	jlg: heh	[23:23]
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up_the_irons	jlgaddis: gotcha	[23:38]
DDevine	Speaking of Brisbane, you guys might be interested in Vint Cerf and Geoff Huston's LCA2011 talks. The videos are up.	[23:40]
coobra	up_the_irons: i cant findit	[23:42]
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Jareth	up_the_irons, have you many vps to set tonight? :)	[23:48]
up_the_irons	Jareth: a handful	[23:49]
DDevine	I just got billed.	[23:52]
merky	so did i i think most people did :)	[23:55]
ideas1	not me wait let me check never mind I did too	[23:55]
merky	u did? :)	[23:56]
muskyhusky	not me	[23:56]
merky	actually i just got a sales receipt	[23:56]
ideas1	and i thought i was special, guess not	[23:56]
merky	i don't remember seenig a bill	[23:56]
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merky	may have come and i just missed it i miss lotso f mail :/ actually using limit in mutt it doesn't look like i got an invoice just a receipt :)	[23:56]

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