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[12:11] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: I take it you're liking mailroute.info ?
[12:12] <Ozzer> Question about VPS and allowed things to do... If I was to get a VPS, is it allowed to run IRC servers on it?
[12:13] <RandalSchwartz> yeah
[12:13] <RandalSchwartz> just don't do illegal things
[12:13] <RandalSchwartz> or you get booted
[12:13] <up_the_irons> well, sure
[12:13] <Ozzer> haha :) yea of course
[12:14] <RandalSchwartz> I run all sorts of servers on my... servers. :)
[12:14] <up_the_irons> Ozzer: yes: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/do-you-allow-irc-traffic
[12:14] <Ozzer> nice
[12:14] <up_the_irons> Ozzer: :)
[12:14] <Ozzer> I don't do anything big on mine... just been burnt in the paste
[12:14] <RandalSchwartz> why are people always looking for irc server locations?
[12:14] <Ozzer> *shrugs*
[12:14] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: people a lot of hosts don't allow it
[12:14] <RandalSchwartz> and not just use channels on freenode or something?
[12:14] <jdoe> because freenode sucks.
[12:14] <Ozzer> I multipurpose my stuff
[12:15] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: i suppose it is a control / privacy thing
[12:15] <RandalSchwartz> maybe
[12:15] <Ozzer> <-- likes to be on small servers
[12:15] <jdoe> freenode glined me (another client) because of an 'open proxy' that wasn't :P
[12:15] <jdoe> er... whatever they call global bans here.
[12:15] <RandalSchwartz> these servers are so small, you can't even see them!
[12:15] <vcs> RandSchwartz but the fact remainds
[12:16] <vcs> smaller irc servers are just as big of targets for ddos
[12:16] <jdoe> freenode also suffers from terminal stupidity, ie the javascript-based attacks of a year or so ago
[12:16] <vcs> sometimes even more so
[12:16] <vcs> due to obusive operator behavio
[12:16] <jdoe> because whoever configures the servers decided anti-spoofing protection, that's been in every ircd since the dawn of time, was no longer necessary :P
[12:17] <vcs> spoofing is the dumbest idea ever
[12:17] <vcs> if you spoof someone
[12:17] <vcs> it just means they will packet your server
[12:17] <vcs> instead of that person
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[12:17] <jdoe> I... okay, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying.
[12:18] <vcs> hahhahaha
[12:18] <vcs> but you have a point
[12:18] <vcs> freenode sucks
[12:18] <Ozzer> *shrugs* i've been attached to IRC since the late 90s (yea, i'm a young adopter) so I can't not run one to support my 20 person irc network haha
[12:19] <vcs> jdoe: then you also have the fact the same organization responsible for that attack
[12:19] <vcs> also hacked their admin passwords like 2-3 times
[12:19] <vcs> and ruined the whole network for extended periods of time
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[12:30] <Ozzer> Aight, well thanks again for the info :)
[12:30] <Ozzer> Have a good one
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[16:59] <fink> hi r
[16:59] <RandalSchwartz> hey fink
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