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[05:15] <francisco-reyes> I emailed sales/support last night and gave my number so hopefully someone will call me today.. marked call as the preferred method.
[05:15] <francisco-reyes> I don't expect near instantatneous VMs.. however something within a few hours would be more competitive.
[05:16] <francisco-reyes> Most of the VMs we are creating at work are more about space than performance so saying that arp can perform better will not be much of a selling point unfortunately.
[05:17] <francisco-reyes> The little I saw so far of the Rackspace cloud management, I don't think I saw FreeBSD so right now they are only using some Linux VMs. I think they are open to FreeBSD (the office serves will be getting FreeBSD).
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[06:21] <RandalSchwartz> francisco-reyes wants us all to pay more so that he can have quicker vm deployment.  There are other solutions for that. :)
[06:33] <mattx86> :)
[06:35] <coobra> nice
[06:35] <coobra> :D
[06:36] <RandalSchwartz> truly, there is a lot of competition out there.  lots of solutions at various price points.  I like this particular solution, which is why I'm here.
[06:37] <RandalSchwartz> you want EC2 "deploy in 30 seconds", you know where to find it. )
[06:38] <mattx86> true
[06:44] <mike-burns> What if we didn't pay more and also got a VM faster. Would that be fine?
[06:45] <RandalSchwartz> what if I was 6 foot 2?
[06:45] <RandalSchwartz> it's about as likely. :)
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[08:30] <RandalSchwartz> (for the record, I'm only 5'8"... a little short for a stormtrooper :)
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[08:39] <RandalSchwartz> we welcome our robot overlords!
[08:45] <fink> heh
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[17:13] <up_the_irons> wickedSA: welcome :)
[17:14] <wickedSA> up_the_irons: word
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[17:49] <up_the_irons> 66 people in here, a new record!!
[17:50] <HighJinx> 65 + 1 bot technically :P
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[17:57] <up_the_irons> true
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[19:06] <Lefty> I'm a carbon-based robot
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[19:19] <RandalSchwartz> "I've got yer carbon unit... RIGHT HERE!"
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[21:38] <mick_home> anyone have this problem: I send an email to an unknown user and then my vps seems to hang after that- my ssh connections die and I just get operation timeouts
[21:40] <RandalSchwartz> what do you mean "unknown"?
[21:40] <RandalSchwartz> the domain name doesn't resolve?
[21:41] <mick_home> ssh: connect to host ..... port 22: Operation timed out
[21:41] <mick_home> RandalSchwartz: btw, are you merlin?
[21:42] <RandalSchwartz> "email to an unknown user"
[21:42] <RandalSchwartz> in what sense, unknown?
[21:42] <RandalSchwartz> that's what I meant
[21:42] <mick_home> as in it doesn't exist
[21:42] <RandalSchwartz> local user?
[21:42] <RandalSchwartz> or remote user?
[21:42] <mick_home> i forgot to restart the mail server after i added an alias
[21:42] * RandalSchwartz waits for an answer
[21:43] <RandalSchwartz> it'll go faster if you answer my questions. :)
[21:43] <RandalSchwartz> is there an "@" in the email address of the unknown user?
[21:43] <mick_home> mick@mydomain.com sends an email to unknownuser@mydomain.com
[21:43] * RandalSchwartz tries to make it simpler
[21:43] <mick_home> i tried to make it as simple as possible w./ that
[21:43] <RandalSchwartz> so you are emailing "mick"
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> or "mick@mydomain.com"
[21:44] <mick_home> you didn't answer my question though- are you merlin?
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> and is "mydomain.com" the domain that delivers locally to the box
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> I'm not merlin
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> But I often use "merlyn", yes.
[21:44] <mick_home> ah i mean merlyn
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> what mailer?
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> what name server?
[21:44] <RandalSchwartz> what is your /etc/resolv.conf?
[21:44] <mick_home> postfix, and dovecot
[21:45] <RandalSchwartz> dovecot doesn't matter
[21:45] <mick_home> local or my server?
[21:45] <RandalSchwartz> unless you're talking about remote access.
[21:45] <RandalSchwartz> mick_home - what's the difference?
[21:45] <mick_home> i mean, my vps is not accessible anymore
[21:45] <RandalSchwartz> are you talking about *two* boxes?
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[21:46] <mick_home> i'm not sure that I'm making myself clear
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> I know you're not making yourself clear
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> that's why I'm trying to ask
[21:46] <mick_home> vps is down, it seems to always happen when i email an unknown user
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> "I send mail".  how.  what application?
[21:46] <mick_home> thunderbird
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> and from the VPS?
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> oh, FROM ANOTHER BOX
[21:46] <mick_home> from another
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> that'd help to have known
[21:46] <RandalSchwartz> ok, what's postfix saying in /var/log/maillog
[21:47] <RandalSchwartz> right after you send that broken mail
[21:47] <mick_home> i wish i knew :P
[21:47] <RandalSchwartz> uh - "tail -f /var/log/maillog
[21:47] <mick_home> nope, it broke the vps
[21:47] <RandalSchwartz> what OS
[21:48] <mick_home> ok again, if i send an email to an unknown user - my vps doesn't respond (to ssh or otherwise)
[21:48] <mick_home> debian
[21:48] <RandalSchwartz> your vps is running debian?
[21:48] <mick_home> osx used to send debian on the vps
[21:48] <RandalSchwartz> does it also fail pings?
[21:48] <mick_home> yes
[21:48] <RandalSchwartz> ok - I don't know much about linux
[21:48] <RandalSchwartz> so I'm not the right guy
[21:48] <RandalSchwartz> haven't run linux anywhere in years
[21:49] <mick_home> let me guess, you are now an osx guy?
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> "now"?
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> I run freebsd on this server
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> the one I'm typing on to talk to you
[21:49] <mick_home> ok
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> and osx on my desktop
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> never ran linux on my desktop
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> only on a server eight years ago
[21:49] <mick_home> i know a lot of perl people that are converts from linux->osx
[21:49] <RandalSchwartz> openbsd and freebsd since then
[21:50] <RandalSchwartz> well - my mac preferred apple OS
[21:50] <RandalSchwartz> and that's all I've ever owned for home machines
[21:50] <RandalSchwartz> from a powerbook 140 to this macbookpro
[21:50] <mick_home> we actually met once at YAPC::NA
[21:50] <mick_home> in boca
[21:50] <RandalSchwartz> cool!
[21:50] <RandalSchwartz> well - boca was warm :)
[21:52] <mick_home> funny, i'm back in now
[21:52] <mick_home> this has happened to me a few times
[21:53] <mick_home> it is actually kind of funny how often you meet people who are on irc
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[21:56] <mick_home> i wonder how i can troubleshoot this
[21:57] <mick_home> since it is a bug *somewhere*
[21:57] <mick_home> and it seems kind of serious
[22:02] <mick_home> i wonder what would cause www postfix/smtpd[22426]: NOQUEUE: reject messages to freeze a box
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