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[07:58] <RandalSchwartz> cedwards - I'm using zfsnap
[07:58] <RandalSchwartz> and its predecessor
[07:58] <RandalSchwartz> zfs-snapshot-mgmt
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[08:32] <cedwards> RandalSchwartz: are you using it in crontab directly or using the periodic config options?
[08:40] <RandalSchwartz> crontab directly, I think
[08:40] <RandalSchwartz> lemme check
[08:41] <RandalSchwartz> crontab directly
[08:41] <RandalSchwartz> 3-59/10 * * * * zfSnap -o -d -a 3h -r zroot
[08:41] <RandalSchwartz> etc etc
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> 4 * * * * zfSnap -o -a 3d -r zroot
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> 5 1 * * * zfSnap -o -a 1m -r zroot
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> 6 1 1 * * zfSnap -o -r zroot
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> there.  my whole scheme
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> 10 minutes for 3 hours
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> hourly for 3 days
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> daily for 1 month
[08:42] <RandalSchwartz> monthly for a year
[08:43] <RandalSchwartz> err - froever
[08:43] <RandalSchwartz> currently have 122 snapshots
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[09:06] <phlux> Does anyone else find it impossible to install curl on FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE?
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[09:09] <phlux> I suppose it's probably time to upgrade to STABLE anyhow.
[09:09] <phlux> Never done this on a VPS...do I just do it the same way as if it were on my home computer?
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[09:31] <jpalmer> phlux: for all intents and purposes,  the difference between a vps,  and a remote physical machine,  is null.
[09:31] <jpalmer> well,   in the context of an upgrade ;)
[09:31] <phlux> Aye, so I'll just follow the handbook's csup method, then.
[09:31] <phlux> I'm assuming there a special flags for building the 64bit kernel
[09:32] <jpalmer> depending on the version you have,  you can use csup,  or freebsd-update
[09:32] <phlux> Yeah, I saw the freebsd-update thing, but I'm old-fasioned.
[09:32] <jpalmer> the old way certainly still works ;)
[09:32] <phlux> I know the csup method works because I've used it since I was 12...it's kind of like not swapping from Listerine to the new non-burning stuff.
[09:33] <phlux> I'm stubborn :)
[09:33] <phlux> Thanks for the response.
[09:57] <phlux> hmm
[09:57] <phlux> since it's amd64, do I still use the -j4 take when issuing make buildkernel?
[10:02] <RandalSchwartz> intel wasn't making microprocessors when I was 12. :)
[10:02] <RandalSchwartz> oh wait, the 8008
[10:03] <RandalSchwartz> the 8080 was introduced when I was 13 or 14
[10:04] <fink> wow, that was last century?
[10:04] <phlux> I was 12 in 2000
[10:04] <RandalSchwartz> 1976 for the 8080
[10:05] <phlux> hm
[10:07] <RandalSchwartz> ipv6.he.net saying less than 30 days until the final /8 allocation
[10:07] <RandalSchwartz> time to start configuring my webserver to run on v6
[10:09] <RandalSchwartz> heh - one of the presentors at the recent v6 summit says that microsoft should release a version of powerpoint that runs only when attached to ipv6
[10:09] <RandalSchwartz> that'd get managers to upgrade to v6 immediately
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[10:33] <shmget_mobile> One of my college profs thinks that ipv6 will be scrapped
[10:33] <mike-burns> Reasonable.
[10:33] <shmget_mobile> He thinks they will maybe use some reserved bits to extend ipv4
[10:35] <mike-burns> IPv6 is not catching on as rapidly as it needs to, in the US. We'll probably have an obscene amount of NAT in 10 years just to make everything still function.
[10:37] <shmget_mobile> My home network is dual stack
[10:42] <RandalSchwartz> v6 is too heavily deployed in the rest of the world to be scrapped
[10:42] <RandalSchwartz> and it works in all modern routers already
[10:43] <RandalSchwartz> it'd be hard to undo all that commitment
[10:43] <RandalSchwartz> just a matter of US IT people getting their act in gear
[10:45] <shmget_mobile> Yeah, still waiting for my ISP to support it.  I use tunnelbroker now
[10:45] <mike-burns> It's a matter of people being paid to get their IPv6 act in gear.
[11:00] <phlux> great..I can't buildworld
[11:00] <phlux> /usr/src/sbin/hastd/token.l:456: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
[11:00] <phlux> *** Error code 1
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[12:02] <ideas1> I submitted a support ticket approx 48hrs ago re: a os disc change. Does anyone know if they closed on the weekends and holidays?
[12:05] <RandalSchwartz> generally stuff gets done every night
[12:05] <RandalSchwartz> unless there's a huge backlog
[12:06] <RandalSchwartz> are you sure it wasn't done already?  You have to completely power down your VPS to notice the change.
[12:07] <RandalSchwartz> ideas1?
[12:11] <jpalmer> ideas1: it will likely be done this evening.  I see the ticket open, with no comments.  I don't have the access to change the OS for you, though.
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[12:29] <azmarco> to double our bw and say, bump up ram ... just a support ticket away, correct?
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[12:56] <jpalmer> azmarco: yes.  include your vps UUID,  the package you want,  and that it's OK to bill your card on file.
[12:58] <azmarco> right on, thx
[12:59] <jpalmer> np
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[14:03] <ideas1> Thank you Randal and jpalmer
[14:10] <ideas1> jpalmer: if i want an additional vps do I just make another ticket? or place a whole new order?
[14:18] <toddf> whole new order
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[14:25] <ideas1> toddf: thank you
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[14:41] <vcs> is it just me
[14:41] <vcs> or has arp been alot more stable in the past week
[14:41] <vcs> :)
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[15:20] <toddf> week?
[15:20] <vcs> well
[15:20] <vcs> i have not been disconnected from irc
[15:20] <vcs> in the past week
[15:20] <toddf> heh guess I don't know instable. I've used it quite reliably for the past 1.5 years (well except mercury going belly up, but that's understandable)
[15:21] <vcs> well actually
[15:21] <vcs> its been more stable since i changed routes
[15:21] <toddf> ah, so the statement you're making is actually 'arp network seems stable'
[15:21] <vcs> and started using an irc server thats 5ms away
[15:21] <toddf> heh
[15:21] <vcs> so it was not arps fault ;o
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[18:16] <Guest75322> Hrm
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[18:17] <phlux> I need to upgrade php to 5.3, but I don't want to break roundcube or any of my other php stuff :(
[18:17] <RandalSchwartz> has that been tested with 5.4?
[18:17] <RandalSchwartz> 5.3?
[18:21] <phlux> I'm not sure
[18:21] <phlux> I just know a buddy of mine wants phpmyadmin (or similar) on this particular VPS, and I can't get it to run properly with 5.2
[18:45] <phlux> well, the php5-extensions port is retarded
[18:45] <phlux> autoconf: required version 2.68 not found
[18:46] <phlux> bryant# autoconf -V
[18:46] <phlux> autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.68
[18:55] <RandalSchwartz> I hate that when that happens
[18:57] <jlgaddis> welcome to php, with built-in retardism!
[18:57] <jlgaddis> i hear RandalSchwartz really likes php
[18:57] <RandalSchwartz> don't make me find my PHP picture. :)
[18:57] <jlgaddis> i thought you were a big php fanboy  ;)
[18:57] <RandalSchwartz> here's your sign - http://www.tnx.nl/php.jpg
[18:57] <RandalSchwartz> the first PHP was written in Perl
[18:58] <jlgaddis> heh, nice
[18:58] <RandalSchwartz> it has never escaped that legacy of being "some small broken subset" of Perl
[18:59] <RandalSchwartz> PHP is the VisualBasic of unix :)
[19:00] <phlux> Ah, found it...autoconf-wrapper needed to be updated as well.
[19:00] <jlgaddis> heh, so true
[19:19] <cedwards> anyone have any luck getting emulators/linux_base-f10 installed? I'm just timing out on all the rpms..
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