#arpnetworks 2011-01-17,Mon

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RandalSchwartzcedwards - I'm using zfsnap
and its predecessor
zfs-snapshot-mgmt
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cedwardsRandalSchwartz: are you using it in crontab directly or using the periodic config options? [08:32]
RandalSchwartzcrontab directly, I think
lemme check
crontab directly
3-59/10 * * * * zfSnap -o -d -a 3h -r zroot
etc etc
4 * * * * zfSnap -o -a 3d -r zroot
5 1 * * * zfSnap -o -a 1m -r zroot
6 1 1 * * zfSnap -o -r zroot
there. my whole scheme
10 minutes for 3 hours
hourly for 3 days
daily for 1 month
monthly for a year
err - froever
currently have 122 snapshots
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phluxDoes anyone else find it impossible to install curl on FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE? [09:06]
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phluxI suppose it's probably time to upgrade to STABLE anyhow.
Never done this on a VPS...do I just do it the same way as if it were on my home computer?
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jpalmerphlux: for all intents and purposes, the difference between a vps, and a remote physical machine, is null.
well, in the context of an upgrade ;)
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phluxAye, so I'll just follow the handbook's csup method, then.
I'm assuming there a special flags for building the 64bit kernel
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jpalmerdepending on the version you have, you can use csup, or freebsd-update [09:32]
phluxYeah, I saw the freebsd-update thing, but I'm old-fasioned. [09:32]
jpalmerthe old way certainly still works ;) [09:32]
phluxI know the csup method works because I've used it since I was 12...it's kind of like not swapping from Listerine to the new non-burning stuff.
I'm stubborn :)
Thanks for the response.
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hmm
since it's amd64, do I still use the -j4 take when issuing make buildkernel?
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RandalSchwartzintel wasn't making microprocessors when I was 12. :)
oh wait, the 8008
the 8080 was introduced when I was 13 or 14
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finkwow, that was last century? [10:04]
phluxI was 12 in 2000 [10:04]
RandalSchwartz1976 for the 8080 [10:04]
phluxhm [10:05]
RandalSchwartzipv6.he.net saying less than 30 days until the final /8 allocation
time to start configuring my webserver to run on v6
heh - one of the presentors at the recent v6 summit says that microsoft should release a version of powerpoint that runs only when attached to ipv6
that'd get managers to upgrade to v6 immediately
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shmget_mobileOne of my college profs thinks that ipv6 will be scrapped [10:33]
mike-burnsReasonable. [10:33]
shmget_mobileHe thinks they will maybe use some reserved bits to extend ipv4 [10:33]
mike-burnsIPv6 is not catching on as rapidly as it needs to, in the US. We'll probably have an obscene amount of NAT in 10 years just to make everything still function. [10:35]
shmget_mobileMy home network is dual stack [10:37]
RandalSchwartzv6 is too heavily deployed in the rest of the world to be scrapped
and it works in all modern routers already
it'd be hard to undo all that commitment
just a matter of US IT people getting their act in gear
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shmget_mobileYeah, still waiting for my ISP to support it. I use tunnelbroker now [10:45]
mike-burnsIt's a matter of people being paid to get their IPv6 act in gear. [10:45]
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phluxgreat..I can't buildworld
/usr/src/sbin/hastd/token.l:456: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
*** Error code 1
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ideas1I submitted a support ticket approx 48hrs ago re: a os disc change. Does anyone know if they closed on the weekends and holidays? [12:02]
RandalSchwartzgenerally stuff gets done every night
unless there's a huge backlog
are you sure it wasn't done already? You have to completely power down your VPS to notice the change.
ideas1?
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jpalmerideas1: it will likely be done this evening. I see the ticket open, with no comments. I don't have the access to change the OS for you, though. [12:11]
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azmarcoto double our bw and say, bump up ram ... just a support ticket away, correct? [12:29]
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jpalmerazmarco: yes. include your vps UUID, the package you want, and that it's OK to bill your card on file. [12:56]
azmarcoright on, thx [12:58]
jpalmernp [12:59]
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ideas1Thank you Randal and jpalmer [14:03]
jpalmer: if i want an additional vps do I just make another ticket? or place a whole new order? [14:10]
toddfwhole new order [14:18]
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ideas1toddf: thank you [14:25]
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vcsis it just me
or has arp been alot more stable in the past week
:)
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toddfweek? [15:20]
vcswell
i have not been disconnected from irc
in the past week
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toddfheh guess I don't know instable. I've used it quite reliably for the past 1.5 years (well except mercury going belly up, but that's understandable) [15:20]
vcswell actually
its been more stable since i changed routes
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toddfah, so the statement you're making is actually 'arp network seems stable' [15:21]
vcsand started using an irc server thats 5ms away [15:21]
toddfheh [15:21]
vcsso it was not arps fault ;o [15:21]
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Guest75322Hrm [18:16]
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phluxI need to upgrade php to 5.3, but I don't want to break roundcube or any of my other php stuff :( [18:17]
RandalSchwartzhas that been tested with 5.4?
5.3?
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phluxI'm not sure
I just know a buddy of mine wants phpmyadmin (or similar) on this particular VPS, and I can't get it to run properly with 5.2
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well, the php5-extensions port is retarded
autoconf: required version 2.68 not found
bryant# autoconf -V
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.68
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RandalSchwartzI hate that when that happens [18:55]
jlgaddiswelcome to php, with built-in retardism!
i hear RandalSchwartz really likes php
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RandalSchwartzdon't make me find my PHP picture. :) [18:57]
jlgaddisi thought you were a big php fanboy ;) [18:57]
RandalSchwartzhere's your sign - http://www.tnx.nl/php.jpg
the first PHP was written in Perl
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jlgaddisheh, nice [18:58]
RandalSchwartzit has never escaped that legacy of being "some small broken subset" of Perl
PHP is the VisualBasic of unix :)
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phluxAh, found it...autoconf-wrapper needed to be updated as well. [19:00]
jlgaddisheh, so true [19:00]
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cedwardsanyone have any luck getting emulators/linux_base-f10 installed? I'm just timing out on all the rpms.. [19:19]
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