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| ideas1 | thanks hubpub | [01:15] |
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| does everything install from source in freebsd?
apache is taking forever | [01:57] | |
| jlgaddis | you can install from packages
e.g. "pkg_add -r apache22" but as a general rule, yes | [02:01] |
| ideas1 | thanks
is adding packages via pkg_add frowned upon? | [02:02] |
| jlgaddis | no, but you just get it however it was compiled, which could be without certain options that you may need
from source is always the best option, imo | [02:04] |
| ideas1 | sounds like im going to be spending a ton of time reading lol | [02:05] |
| jlgaddis | bookmark: freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ =)
90% of what you need/want to know is there | [02:05] |
| ideas1 | thank you | [02:06] |
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| jlgaddis | also, #freebsd =) | [02:22] |
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| phlux | Anyone else having rDNS problems? | [09:05] |
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| jpalmer | phlux: what kind of problems?
phlux: judging from the IP you joined with, it appears as though ARP is delegating your ip6-arpa to ns1 and ns2.dragonzkeep.com upon further troubleshooting, I see: dig: couldn't get address for 'ns1.dragonzkeep.com': not found it looks like your 2 NS's are having issues. and upon further troubleshooting: dragonzkeep.com is expired. Expiration date: 14 Nov 2010 09:11:39 | [09:34] |
| phlux | I have my DNS delegated to my own NS servers | [09:38] |
| jpalmer | you can either pay for the domain renewal, move the delegation to 2 NS's that work, or let ARP handle PTR | [09:39] |
| phlux | However, as far as I know, arp is still in charge of the rDNS
I don't even know what dragonzkeep.com is :P but my ipv6 isn't what's in question It my mail server the IP is 206.125.169.130 | [09:39] |
| jpalmer | ok, then I'm troubleshooting a problem you don't have. which IP specifically are you concerned with?
ok dragonzkeep.com are the NS's responsible for the rDNS for the IPv6 address you just joined with, btw. | [09:40] |
| phlux | weird | [09:40] |
| jpalmer | $ dig -x 206.125.169.130 +short
mail.ewnix.net. seems to be working. what issues are you seeing? | [09:41] |
| phlux | Well, I keep getting e-mails kicked back because the rDNS/DNS is supposedly set up incorrectly | [09:42] |
| jpalmer | (just a headsup, I ave to leave soon to get fitted for a tux.) | [09:42] |
| phlux | For instance, craigslist shoots the following:
<unknown[206.125.169.134]>: Client host rejected: rDNS/DNS_validation_failed._Please_setup_matching_DNS_and_rDNS_records:_http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/rdns_failure xabd-4 (in reply to RCPT TO command) If I do a DNS Report from a website, I get rDNS failures for mail.ewnix.net | [09:43] |
| jpalmer | the A and PTR records seem to match. is it just craigslist kicking an error? or others too? (it's possible the craigslist mailserver is having some DNS flakiness) | [09:45] |
| phlux | Others...for example, my Dad has an AOL e-mail address (STILL...) and he can't receive e-mails from my domain.
My stuff gets kicked into spam for gmail/yahoo because of it | [09:45] |
| jpalmer | ok, which website are you doing the DNS report from, let me see what it says | [09:45] |
| phlux | It's really becoming a nuisance
I've tried several, actually. dnscolos.com, thednsreport.com, intodns.com | [09:45] |
| jpalmer | according to thednsreport.com, ns3 and ns4.ewnix.net are reporting lame delegations. (IE your NS doesn't know about that domain) but when queried directly, it does.
phlux: I have to run, and get fitted for my wedding. I'll be back in a couple hours if you haven't figured this out. the guys in #bind may be able to help in the meantime. | [09:52] |
| phlux | aye, thanks. | [09:54] |
| jpalmer | np. if it helps, the problem appears to be on the ewnix.net side, not on the arp side. but when I get back, I can look into it further. | [09:54] |
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| ideas1 | when i bring up the console i get a [no, customer is attached] any idea?
i think i may have "firewalled" my self out it happend after i had locked my self out of by using pf from allow traffic from sms0 to em0 | [10:48] |
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| jpalmer | phlux: ping | [13:56] |
| phlux | hey, jpalmer | [13:59] |
| jpalmer | did you get your DNS issue figured out? | [14:03] |
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| phlux | Unfortunately, I haven't been able to look farther into it yet. | [14:07] |
| jpalmer | ok, well.. let me know. | [14:13] |
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| htols | is anyone who handles abuse available? | [20:40] |
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| RandalSchwartz | I often handle abuse, but not for arp
is there something odd going on? | [20:58] |
| jlgaddis | jlgaddis beats RandalSchwartz with the python book | [21:00] |
| RandalSchwartz | as long as you indent it properly. :) | [21:01] |
| htols | it's related to abuse going on from arpnetworks network block | [21:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | clarify
what kind of absue? abuse | [21:06] |
| htols | are you an employee of arpnetworks? | [21:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | and the proper channel to report that is email to support@arpnetworks.com | [21:06] |
| htols | not abuse@arpnetworks.com? | [21:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | maybe that too
probably goes to the same place what kind of abuse? | [21:06] |
| htols | that's where I sent it
I can't say here | [21:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | why not?
IRC? spam? wtf | [21:07] |
| mike-burns | Email support@ and up_the_irons will take care of it ASAP. | [21:07] |
| htols | if you're not an employee it doesn't concern you | [21:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | yes, it does indeed concern me | [21:08] |
| htols | mike-burns: thanks | [21:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | I promote ARP to others
if ARP is a haven of bad guys, *I* need to know | [21:08] |
| htols | I hope it's not | [21:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | then explain
so I know the scope | [21:08] |
| htols | if the ARP handles it there's no need to make it public | [21:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | uh, this isn't public
this is locals | [21:09] |
| htols | bad apples do get onto networks. it's companies that don't remove them that become havens | [21:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | friends
the very people who are most interested the people that are helping *others* here RandalSchwartz hates dealing with 19-year-olds eventually, they'll mellow out, but at 19, they're very "I have the world figured out" | [21:09] |
| mike-burns | He's probably not 19 and just didn't want to argue with you about whether the subject at hand was abuse. | [21:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | I wasn't gonna argue whether it was
just wanted to know the realm lots of IRC kiddies recently wondered if it was that and he's almost certainly 19 "htols is sloth @ college" that's a 19-year-old handle trick | [21:13] |
| mike-burns | Could be 21. | [21:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | nope
21 they get a cooler nick :) | [21:14] |
| mike-burns | Heh. | [21:14] |
| htols | actually it's post graduate security research going on from this server
but not mine, just have a shell here | [21:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | which doesn't yet disclose your age. :)
you could still be 19 nice play | [21:15] |
| mike-burns | I'm going to assume that htols is a very mature 19 year old and RandalSchwartz is a very immature 49 year old. | [21:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've never claimed maturity, so that's irrelevant
I'm just callin' em like I see 'em and lack of denial from "htols" confirms my claims an excitable 19-year-old | [21:16] |
| jlgaddis | jlgaddis yawns | [21:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | probably blowing a bunch of stuff out of proportion
some random IRC script kiddies who have been parking on ARP for a few weeks now messing up my IP traffic | [21:17] |
| mike-burns | Yeah I gotta go do something interesting. | [21:18] |
| jlgaddis | ditto | [21:18] |
| htols | sorry but I'm dealing with multiple ISPs right now. No time to argue about my age with you right now | [21:18] |
| jlgaddis | htols: student or staff? | [21:19] |
| jpalmer | htols: up_the_irons is the one who will handle your ticket, but from the logs you posted, it appears to be some kind of ftp transfer or similar. are you *sure* this wasn't legit traffic? | [21:19] |
| htols | neither, just have a shell here | [21:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | just ftp!?
RandalSchwartz sighs RandalSchwartz grumbles "excitable 19-year-old" | [21:19] |
| htols | jpalmer: right, 100mb/s of FTP | [21:19] |
| jpalmer | RandalSchwartz: I don't know the full story, so I'd recommend not jumping to conclusions ;) | [21:20] |
| htols | UDP FTP no less | [21:20] |
| RandalSchwartz | ftp isn't over udp
RandalSchwartz consults the RFC | [21:20] |
| htols | wow, you're the smart one | [21:20] |
| jpalmer | hence "or similar" it was all destined to a single port. | [21:20] |
| htols | it wasn't | [21:20] |
| jpalmer | most DoS's, or DDoS's Ive seen, randomize. | [21:20] |
| htols | random port, dest and size | [21:20] |
| RandalSchwartz | there was that crappy "pseudo-ftp" thingy for a while, over udp | [21:20] |
| htols | source port was the same | [21:21] |
| RandalSchwartz | but I knew it was only for bad guys
fsp, that was it "to make ftp work better" yeah right | [21:21] |
| htols | jpalmer, are you staff for ARP? | [21:21] |
| RandalSchwartz | jpalmer is an insider, yes.
since you seem to want authority, instead of common sense. | [21:22] |
| jpalmer | htols: I see it now, I was reading the logs backwards. the destination port is randomized.
htols: I don't have the authority or the access to dig into this matter, that'll be up to Garry. I just wanted to verify that this was some misunderstood legit traffic. | [21:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | s/was/wasn't/ | [21:25] |
| jpalmer | heh. amazing how 3 characters can change an entire meaning, eh? | [21:26] |
| jlgaddis | heh, one character is the difference between "Let's eat grandma" and "Let's eat, grandma"
"I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse" vs ... well, you know. ahhh, patch cluster is finally done installing. | [21:26] |
| jpalmer | ok, calling it a night. later guys | [21:29] |
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| RandalSchwartz | my girl, bill
still betting on 19 seemed brash enough | [21:29] |
| phlux | Someome was hitting someone else at 100mb/s from an arp vps?
Wow | [21:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've done that to my oversee.net desktop
but I'm only 4 hops 1.2ms from apr arp | [21:32] |
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| phlux | I've never thought to see what I could push on myself | [21:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | I grabbed about 50GB of download in 30 minutes once :) | [21:33] |
| phlux | I'm 12 hops away :( | [21:34] |
| RandalSchwartz | oversee has dark fiber to one wilshire
which of course is one hop from wilshire annex so my route is local lan -> fiber -> wilshire hop -> arp all at a gigabit :) | [21:34] |
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| phlux | nice | [21:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | and the dark fiber is to a cage that has gigabit to the internet backbones
so I have gigabit service to my desk :) right to the "net" oversee.net's ASN is quite high on most routing tables, apparently | [21:37] |
| jlgaddis | what the hell does that mean? | [21:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | dunno - it just gets a lot of preferred routing
not a lot of hops to anywhere oversee parks 2.5 million domain names | [21:39] |
| jlgaddis | 17 from here | [21:40] |
| RandalSchwartz | many of which are owned directly, but many from customers | [21:40] |
| jlgaddis | "it just gets a lot of preferred routing" ... dunno what that means either | [21:41] |
| RandalSchwartz | would "closer to the center of the net" make any more sense? | [21:44] |
| jlgaddis | it would | [21:44] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok - that's what I was meaning :)
instead of being three hops out somewhere, it's peering with a lot of main backbones | [21:45] |
| jlgaddis | except that they're only at CIIX
peering w/ uunet, ntt, level3, he, packetexchange, and xeex there, it seems | [21:46] |
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