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LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) fink: hey RandalSchwartz : i have an iphone tethering question for you RandalSchwartz: yes?
fink?
for all I know, that was from 12 hours ago though. :) fink: RandalSchwartz: last time we spoke, you mentioned that you do have the advanced settings (dns, proxy, etc.) for your iphone usb/bt interface in network prefs, right? RandalSchwartz: not sure.
I have a $2 utility installed that lets me enable "at&t" tethering fink: RandalSchwartz: mywi, right? me too RandalSchwartz: I can switch that off and on, and it works just like it would if I paid $20/month more to at&t
no - mywi is independent of that... $20
it has its own router setup fink: oh RandalSchwartz: and can do a lot more than standard tethering fink: RandalSchwartz: but that's on the iphone…i'm asking about on your mac RandalSchwartz: mywi permits wifi hotspot mode for example fink: i saw this here: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10392732 RandalSchwartz: there's nothing on my mac
nothing needed on my mac for either pseudo-tethering or mywi fink: RandalSchwartz: i mean, in system prefs->network->iphone bt or usb on your mac
this guy says that if you upgrade from 10.5 to 10.6, the advanced network options are available in system prefs for the iphone bt/usb interfaces RandalSchwartz: oh, yeah, when tethering is enabled, there's an interface that shows up in system preference.
I've mostly just left that alone... it just works fink: i was wondering if you had upgraded or done a fresh install of 10.6
this is what my iphone bt network interface pref pane looks like: http://macblog.sk/files/pictures/snowleopard_iphone_tethering_connectoin_tcp.png
you said yours has all the options, including proxy? RandalSchwartz: I don't know, and I can't see it without enabling tethering
which would be incovenient right now
as I said, I usually don't need to look into those
everything just works. :)
not sure why you'd need proxy anyway
there's no proxy between you and the internet when you're on your phone :) fink: ok
RandalSchwartz: next time you tether, do you mind checking for me?
RandalSchwartz: well i want to setup polipo locally, to speed things up and keep my bandwidth usage low
RandalSchwartz: did you do a fresh install of 10.6 on your mac, or upgrade from 10.5? RandalSchwartz: this is odd. I'm pretty sure I had this exact same discussion with someone already
maybe even you fink: RandalSchwartz: yea i know, i mentioned that earlier ;) RandalSchwartz: well - I thought it was already resolved. :) fink: RandalSchwartz: right, my new question is: did you do a fresh install of 10.6 on your mac, or upgrade from 10.5? RandalSchwartz: fresh 10.6
with a migration from 10.5 fink: RandalSchwartz: and to confirm that your network interface pref pane does NOT look like: http://macblog.sk/files/pictures/snowleopard_iphone_tethering_connectoin_tcp.png
RandalSchwartz: hmm weird, that's what i did too! (i think)
RandalSchwartz: thanks for your help RandalSchwartz: yeah, I won't know what mine looks like until I try to tether. fink: RandalSchwartz: good holiday? RandalSchwartz: what's a holiday? :)
or are you talking about a specific one
as in, I don't know if you're talking about Christmas or New Years, or what the brits call what we call a "vacation"
because I haven't had a vacation in years.
unless you count the occasional weekend that I go "off the grid" in tijuana fink: xmas & new years?
did you have a good holiday ***: cubelogic has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: you just named two of them, but then said it in the singular again
so now I'm confused about your question, again. ***: robotarmy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) RandalSchwartz: or are you referring maybe to january 6th (epiphany)
or whatever the most recent holiday is mike-burns: /topic Pedantics -: fink wishes he had never asked ***: schmir has joined #arpnetworks mike-burns: fink: Good holiday? fink: mike-burns: great, i was in the EU the whole time. how about you? mike-burns: Also great; took the week off from work and managed to relax and work on my own projects. fink: mike-burns: i too wanted to get some coding done, but ended up drinking and traveling a lot; but it was nice to get away from the screen for a while RandalSchwartz: oh - so you call "holiday" the period between christmas and new years?
that was a work week for me.
so really, no different than any other week cedwards: perhaps someone here can offer some insight into ipv4 static routing on centos.
I've got a machine with two interfaces configured for two subnets.
eth0 is on 172.16.26.0/24 and eth1 is on 192.168.122.0/24.
I can ping both gateways (can only ping the right gateway from the right interface), and I can connect to other hosts within those subnets, but I can't connect to the outside world. RandalSchwartz: which way is your defaults pointing
and where are you testing the pings from
which net has the world if
or is it this box
cedwards? cedwards: sorry. work distractions. RandalSchwartz: often!
so - what's up? cedwards: also, these are VMs on KVM. I'm now realizing that I can't get to the outside world from any of my VMs.
wondering if I've missed something, or misconfigured something on the host RandalSchwartz: ok - where is the "real world" interface
as in "netstat -rn" has what for default?
and is that host reachable?
every machine must have either a default route, or speak a routing protocol and have routes for most of the internet
hint - the second is not likely you :)
and where does the NATing happy
happen
because if you don't NAT an RFC1918 address, you're not gonna get a ping either cedwards: http://pastebin.com/0pvztn1u
I can connect into the VMs and the host from within the office. I can ping both gateways from the VMs. I can connect to other hosts within the office from the VMs.. RandalSchwartz: what's the topology of .245 ?
is it natting 172.16.26/24 outbound to the net? cedwards: I don't know why .245 was chosen as the gateways, but that is the gateway address of all of our subnets in our office.
it must not be natting to the net, and I guess that's where I'm stuck. RandalSchwartz: so what if are you having problems at? cedwards: if I have all the other connectivity it's starting to sound to me like that's all I'm missing. RandalSchwartz: I don't see eth0 and eth1 cedwards: just that I can't get from the VMs to the net. I guess I'm not familiar enough with KVM and Linux bridges to NAT it properly. RandalSchwartz: so now I don't know how to help ***: nesta has quit IRC (Quit: poit!)
nesta has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: is .24 a segment and .122 a segment
and .26 is the upstream segment that can talk to the internet cedwards: ohh I think I pastebin'd from the host and not the VM. RandalSchwartz: and now you need to have people on .24 and .122 be able to use you as a router to get to the net?
well - then that's what's confusing me. :) cedwards: all of our VMs are on the .26. our sysadmin/mgmt network is the .24.
the .122 is only configured between these VMs as a private network to monitor a heartbeat.
it is not used anywhere else, and only needs access between these two machines (which currently is functional) RandalSchwartz: ok - at this point, I'll have to turn on the for-hire meter
already burned up time by being misled
sorry
hope you get someone to help you -: RandalSchwartz wanders off cedwards: and I've been turned around in circles chasing my tail I feel the same way. ***: schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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schmir has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: replace them with what? folgers crystals? BarberRonny: evening/night/morning/whatever your timezone youre in :-)
whoops wrong channel
sorry ***: coil is now known as Husky
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robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) -: jlgaddis looks around jlgaddis: up_the_irons: was working on setting up git last night and came across a how to you wrote. thanks. =) up_the_irons: jlgaddis: no problem :) ***: cubelogic has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) amdprophet: jlgaddis: we use that one too, I didn't notice until like a week after I read it and then I was all like OMFG, up_the_irons wrote this... Ubuntu also links to it from their documentation up_the_irons: amdprophet: hah, really? cool! ***: fink has joined #arpnetworks amdprophet: ya jlgaddis: yeah i was reading through it and the twitter stream on the side caught my eye. i looked and was like "that picture looks familiar." up_the_irons: hehe jlgaddis: i'm working on tying git and puppet together. nice little learning curve considering i've never used either. up_the_irons: nice ***: fink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
decourl has joined #arpnetworks decourl: Hi all - wondering if anybody has a good example of an RFC 2317 (classless delegation) zone file. I was trying varios things like
$ORIGIN 144/28.111.136.174.in-addr.arpa.
146 IN A PTR my.host.com.
But I am seeing syntax/validation errors in the named logs:
zone 144/28.111.136.174.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading from master file /var/named/etc/namedb/master/144-28.111.136.174.in-addr.arpa failed: bad dotted quad
This is bind 9.8 BTW.
(I already added option "check-names master ignore;" as it didn't like the slash in the zone name either.
) ***: fink has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: up_the_irons - we never did hook up for dinner
unless you're nearby tonight jpalmer: decourl: ping decourl: hi jpalmer: decourl: don't use the slash notation. try 144-159.111.136.174.in-addr.arpa decourl: ok jpalmer: your delegation request is completed btw. decourl: okay thank you jpalmer: np. I'm heading to bed now. so, if you have questions, feel free to ask here, in #ipv6, in #bind, or.. I'll be around off and on tomorrow. good luck with it ;) decourl: thanks again RandalSchwartz: nothign from up_the_irons
ok
he's either in transit, or ignoring me :)
jpalmer - what's ipv6? :) jpalmer: RandalSchwartz: I'd suggest "the happy ending" on sunset and sycamore. get the sliders. they are.. phenomenal.
RandalSchwartz: IPv6 is that newfangled gadgetry that all the new age hippies are preaching. IPv4 is good enough for me :P RandalSchwartz: ipv6.he.net is saying less than 30 days
but that's before iana is out
the regionals will be longer jpalmer: yeah
the RIR's are a ways in the future. RandalSchwartz: 300-ish days, by some estimates jpalmer: I'm going to say.. the majority of the internet will be dual stacked for at least 5-10 years. RandalSchwartz: better than single-stacked 5 years ago jpalmer: definately. RandalSchwartz: www.stonehenge.com isn't v6 visible yet
but it's only because I've been pretty much failing as a webmaster jpalmer: are you going to add AAAA's for it on June 8th? RandalSchwartz: stonehenge.com mail delivery *does* work
I need to figure out how to ensure the name-based servers work
might have to set up proper reverses -: jpalmer is actually kinda excited abouy June 8th. even though my sites are almost all IPv6 capable now.. I think it's going to be very intersting to see the world use IPv6 for 24 hours.. and then even more.. interesting, how many of the participating companies LEAVE AAAA records in place for their main websites. jpalmer: I'd be thrilled if google, facebook, or yahoo left AAAA records enabled on the main www.* site after June 8th.
anywho, as I said earlier.. bedtime. G: June 8th eh? how come I haven't read anything about it? RandalSchwartz: I'm telling this girl next to me "how many people do you meet in a week that have a wikipedia page about them... I'm guessing, under 10" jdoe: RandalSchwartz: you used some other domain for the he ipv6 thing? RandalSchwartz: eh? ***: fink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) jdoe: I thought you were a "sage" or whatever, which implies working v6 mail delivery, dns, and web RandalSchwartz: yes
I faked the web part
set up a temporary socat process
since it had to be on my red.stonehenge.com address
which wasn't my web server jlgaddis: jpalmer: www.ipv6.facebook.com is a permanent thing, fwiw G: jlgaddis: pretty sure it's just v6.facebook.com jlgaddis: dns disagrees =)
also, ipv6.google.com, iirc
s:www.ipv6:www.v6:
guess i could quit drinking
should RandalSchwartz: could
and the point would be?
soberiety just leads to flat out exposure to pain G: hmmmm I get no route to www.v6.facebook.com, but it is v6 not ipv6 jlgaddis: i'd save a lot of money RandalSchwartz: we put on mittens and hats and big coats for winter jlgaddis: g: yeah RandalSchwartz: soberiety is like skipping all that
the cold is there
the pain is there
why not have an insulating layer? :) amdprophet: anyone on ipv6 here? RandalSchwartz: "on"? amdprophet: with their desktop jlgaddis: probably a few of us RandalSchwartz: I think my miredo is fired up amdprophet: aelatis.com
does it work?
err I guess it would be hard to tell whether or not it's using ipv4 or not RandalSchwartz: as a webserver
or ping? amdprophet: webserver
ping6 should work RandalSchwartz: where's your www then? amdprophet: aelatis.com should work over ipv4 and ipv6 jlgaddis: --- aelatis.com ping6 statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 103.669/103.686/103.703/0.017 ms RandalSchwartz: I'm seeing it, but I can't tell if it's via v4 or v6 amdprophet: i'll check the server logs RandalSchwartz: yeah - I'm ping6'ing it ok amdprophet: yea, you're hitting it over v6 :D
awesome jlgaddis: $ telnet -6 aelatis.com 80
Trying 2607:f2f8:980::2...
Connected to aelatis.com. amdprophet: jlgaddis: nice :) G: jlgaddis: works from my home connection too amdprophet: I _think_ most of our customers' websites should be accessible via ipv6
unless they're on the one server we have at the planet or "softlayer" as it's called now
they won't give us an ipv6 address jlgaddis: oh shit, somebody shoot me. i just fired up outlook 2011 for the first time and i think i might like it.
i should turn enable ipv6 on my vps
once i figure out how to filter ipv6, that is G: jlgaddis: ip6tables
on a iptables based distro jlgaddis: i use pf, which supports inet6 nowadays (i think)
so much easier at home, with cisco gear RandalSchwartz: iptables seemed weired ***: baklava has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) RandalSchwartz: a mechanism without a config file format jlgaddis: it's linux, of course it's weird RandalSchwartz: s/linux/gnu/ :) -: jlgaddis @ gnu.org =) jlgaddis: hmm, speaking of linux, looks like i'll have some rhel boxes to update in a few hours... rhel 5.6 was released today, apparently. RandalSchwartz: rhel = "remote hell" jlgaddis: better than damn ubuntu ***: baklava has joined #arpnetworks jlgaddis: did you know that ubuntu is an african word that means "freebsd is too hard"? RandalSchwartz: I thought it meant "three naked people in a circle" jlgaddis: that's the alternate translation
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/446184392_31cbe98294.jpg (possibly nsfw)
i think that should be their logo instead RandalSchwartz: not seeing - was that the logo for a bit
there was some questionable logo early on jlgaddis: look at that image and the ubuntu logo side by side RandalSchwartz: as I said, can't do that in this public bar :) jlgaddis: oh, you're one of those damn civilized people RandalSchwartz: only right now. :) jlgaddis: that wouldn't be a problem at my bar
http://www.showmes.com/gallery.php?id=15 (warning: autoplays music)
RandalSchwartz: do i recall hearing that you'll be at derbycon, or am i just drunk? ***: robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks jlgaddis: i think i'm just drunk RandalSchwartz: what's derbycon, so ... no. ***: decourl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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