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schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) NGAD: how to filter all packets incoimng or outgoing my nic ? mike-burns: NGAD: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ - also works on FreeBSD. NGAD: mike-burns but i am using windows. i am used to it ***: schmir has joined #arpnetworks
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mhoran_ is now known as mhoran RandalSchwartz: Using windows... there's the WTF for ya. ***: schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks N1JER: I'm having a funky issue with my openbsd vps.. I patched and built the updated -stable kernel, but when I boot the new kernel the VPS complains because it says it can't find init. I've got to use VNC to tell it to boot the old 4.8 kernel.. It is really weird
Has anyone else reported this issue? I'm not sure if it is QEMU related, something I'm doing wrong, or something with OpenBSD itself RandalSchwartz: another reason I'm not using openbsd any more. :)
but sorry, no, can't help ya.
I wonder if it'd be possible to run the same emulation software that arp uses to make debugging easier
of course, I'd have to run it inside vmware running linux somehwere, probably N1JER: er.. I doubt the problem is with the operating system, but I'm not ruling it out as a possibility. RandalSchwartz: well - just saying, freebsd just works
so it might indeed be an openbsd problem
not having the right driver or low-level interface
presuming something about the virtual hardware that isn't true
but that could be a fault of the virtualizer as well N1JER: the 4.8 kernel works fine. I'm just applying a few patches, nothing major ***: fink has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: then it's likely something in those patches, eh? fink: hi RandalSchwartz N1JER: or in how the sources are fetched, or something.
But, yeah, OpenBSD doesn't work for crap on Xen, VirtualBox or VMWare. But, it works with KVM and QEMU, that is my experience anyway. RandalSchwartz: hey fink jdoe: N1JER: heh, is it the mpbios issue?
or rather, did you remember to disable it? N1JER: jdoe: nope.. I'm aware of that jdoe: dunno then N1JER: I'm fetching from a different mirror and trying again
blew away my /usr/src dir..
I probably did something wrong jdoe: dunno.
I'm lazy, I haven't touched mine since it was provisioned. N1JER: jdoe: did yours start with 4.8 or 4.7?
Mine was with 4.7 and I upgraded to 4.8
but this is the first time I've tried to use a kernel that I built vcs: i upgraded to 4.8 a few weeks ago
had no problems
besides having to change a kernel flag N1JER: vcs: yeah, the upgrade to 4.8 was fine for me as well, except the mpbios flag vcs: yep ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) jdoe: N1JER: 4.6 N1JER: !!! jdoe: shrug. It works. N1JER: Yeah, 4.6 was a good vintage :) jdoe: the stuff that affects me is patched. The stuff that isn't, who cares.
hrm, actually I take that back, apparently support only goes back 2 versions. Oops.
... though there's still nothing that affects me. Huzzah.
... guess I should look into how to upgrade :P N1JER: jdoe: since we don't have access to boot media you have to do the 'unsupported' upgrade in place
which, I've found over the years, to work just fine
darn it, same thing happened. jdoe: er... is that actually the case? I thought it just required a helping hand from up_the_irons to swap the media in the virtual drive. N1JER: jdoe: oh really? I didn't know we could do that at arp :) RandalSchwartz: yeah, just provide a URL in email to support@ jdoe: yeah, though that might be a PITA if I want to do two back-to-back as well.
my install is barely customized, I imagine the unsupported one is fairly safe... RandalSchwartz: once it's done, on your next complete powerdown, the new disk is "in the drive"
so it's completely up to you when the swap happens
apparently, the vm won't allow drive changes while the vm is powered up jdoe: odd. RandalSchwartz: I think it's a settings file that gets read only on coldboot
so he's not actually forcing a drive eject from the "outsode"
that might be difficult for $random_operating_system
cool - iphone app talkatone lets you make free US/Canada calls using google voice and google talk.
I wonder how long before *that* is blocked. :) jdoe: depends on how uptight your provider is, I guess. RandalSchwartz: the provider here being google
how uptight do you think they'll be? :) ***: whitefang has joined #arpnetworks N1JER: so, I'm a dolt. I forgot the vps runs amd64 and I was building i386 RandalSchwartz: heh
happens to all of us
well, some of us.
well, at least you. :)
thanks for taking one for the team jpalmer: lol N1JER: :[11:06] *** cubelogic has joined #arpnetworks jdoe: lol
RandalSchwartz: not sure google has any reason to care. Your telco may. ***: kaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) RandalSchwartz: the local telco isn't involved if it's over wifi
google might care because it means your ability to make calls using their POTS interfaces are no longer throttled by having some other POTS call involved
I'm sure they count on that a bit
although they did open up the gtalk-gvoice interface willfully ***: jdoe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) N1JER: I don't think a lot of people out there are really relying on gtalk though
I've used it just to see how well it worked, but I still use my phone, usually for logistic reasosn
reasons dxtr: GODDAMMIT
How would I open .rtf files on a mac? N1JER: textedit dxtr: Oh
Hmm RandalSchwartz: yeah, double-click'em
should open textedit
.rtf is a "native" format on osx dxtr: It didn't, weird enough
Oh well. Thanks I guess :)
But my teacher is retarded
I sent in an assignment as a pdf file and he complained because he couldn't type comments directly in the text
"Use Word!" ***: hycer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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mike-burns has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) up_the_irons: whitefang: still seeing packet loss through pccw? My peer with Trit Networks (where I get a lot of asian routes) was down for a while, but the failure has been fixed and you may now notice a positive difference ***: nuke- has joined #arpnetworks whitefang: up_the_irons: I'll have a look thanks ***: awyeah has joined #arpnetworks
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vcs has joined #arpnetworks whitefang: --- ionise.org ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 12 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 39.728/40.345/41.659/0.535 ms
up_the_irons: I love you :) up_the_irons: LOLZ whitefang: I was feeling too lazy to file a support ticket and it wasn't really really your problem so I thought I'd bitch about it here enough that you might get around to looking at it if you had time. up_the_irons: whitefang: my belated christmas present to you
whitefang: LOL, that's pretty much what happened ;) -: up_the_irons thinks "man, i'm going to have to fix the Trit peer so whitefang will stop bitching" up_the_irons: ;) ***: nesta has joined #arpnetworks
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nesta has joined #arpnetworks whitefang: 122 packets transmitted, 122 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 39.522/40.225/41.991/0.363 ms
mmmmm nice
I'm going to enjoy that when I get home :) jpalmer: whitefang: now we need to find other things to complain about, while up_the_irons is in the giving mood. Or the "shut whitefang up" mood :P ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks
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where my more ramz!
up_the_irons: there was at least one other person in her that was having those problems
I think they were in BC too vcs: hmmm
a core ipv6 route was just dropped to .nl
lol
not just arp tho
its way upstream ***: mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns up_the_irons: yeah, i think that person filed a support ticket whitefang: hah, he wasted his time, what a chump. up_the_irons: lol dxtr: vcs: Same to .se vcs: yeah
it was all of europe i think
i just switched to an american irc server dxtr: :P vcs: them terorrists cutting the ocean fiber again >:| dxtr: Well, the route is up now so up_the_irons: more like the fishermen
"what's this thing caught in my rudder? Let's cut it out" vcs: lol
i guess its best to use more optimal routes, domestic routes
i switched to he.net for EFnet
i think gary said there is an he.net v6 router 1/2 hops away
so that should be a much more reliable route :P up_the_irons: i don't recall saying that, but it may be true regardless :) vcs: lol dxtr: 1/2 hop? Is that even possible? ***: RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks
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wrong window ***: robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
fink has joined #arpnetworks whitefang: up_the_irons: still appears to be a little packet lossy again
it was fine for like an hour ^_^
10 rally-tech.ge9-4.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.42.130) 103.817 ms 114.761 ms 48.981 ms
but you know what, there is a chance my network is being gump right now.
haha, yeah I'm pretty sure there's two things going on right now...#1 my connection at work sux nuts...and #2 my wife is downloading torrents at home. N1JER: legal ones, I'm sure. whitefang: yes
of course
that's exactly what was going on
see that's why I don't open support tickets :P
that was just a OH GNOES I THINK THIS WAS FIXED PANIC TIME moment. ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink)
robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks whitefang: yeah pretty sure it really is all better: 4093 packets transmitted, 4093 packets received, 0.0% packet loss ***: amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks
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Nat_RH has joined #arpnetworks jdoe: well that took... way longer than I was expecting. ***: mattx86 has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: jdoe: that's what she said ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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robotarmy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) mhoran: Ha. jdoe: csup took ~2 hours.
terrifying. mhoran: Yikes. I remember the csup days. -: mhoran hugs freebsd-update mhoran: && portsnap
cvsup was even more fun, since it wasn't even in the base system. ***: cubelogic has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) whitefang: my first cvsup didn't take much longer than 15 minutes
anyone here have much experience with openSUSE? I'm very underwhelmed with fedora on my old notebook and I've heard openSUSE is pretty decent for an install and forget about it distro (for notebooks)
</redundancy> jdoe: mhoran: obsd
... on the plus side, 4.8 seems more... responsive than 4.6 did.
wonder if something changed to make it more virtualization-friendly... ***: d^_^b has joined #arpnetworks
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d^_^b has joined #arpnetworks whitefang: this one time I considered castrating myself...then I realised it would be less painful to just stop using obsd :P ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer lucky: hah, irecently came into possession of a sparcstation 20 ...
+ openbsd = slow
fun, but slow. ***: robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks
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