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[14:45] <lucky> up_the_irons, can i get a quick confirm that the appropriate way to switch to the new $20 / mo VPS w/ 400 GB of transfer is to issue a support ticket authorizing it?
[14:50] <jpalmer> lucky: yes.  file a ticket.  there is a 1 time $20 fee to upgrade, per VPS
[14:57] <lucky> :) hm, that reminds me... how is FBSD's ZFS coming along?  would it be a painful idea to try ZFS on a VPS with 768 MB ? I seem to recall Bad Things with ZFS on a 512 MB RAM virtual machine i tried a little while ago
[15:11] <G> jpalmer: hey, if I was to get a second VPS say a $10 one, any way to guarrantee it won't be on the same host on my other one?
[15:13] <G> oh I guess thats a moot point, as signups are disabled :)
[15:50] <jpalmer> G,  in the comments, during signup,  you can always ask for a different host.  not sure what the policy there is.
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[15:50] * jpalmer guesses signups are disabled due to the host failure earlier this week
[15:58] <G> jpalmer: yeah
[16:36] <whitefang> lucky: I looked in to running ZFS on a VPS with 768MB of RAM...I decided against it after talking it over and reading a bit about it...
[16:38] <whitefang> the "minimum requirements" for ZFS to be happy is apparently 1GB, and even then you would want to have more. that being said it can be done on as little as 512MB but for me with a VPS, when RAM is the "premium" resource that's limiting your performance, I think ZFS is not worth it unless you have a very good specific reason for needing it.
[16:39] <lucky> yeah, that's about how I feel.
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[18:13] <DDevine> Once I get IPv6 working on CentOS I will migrate my mail off google apps into the new server.
[18:14] <jdoe> it's pretty straightforward, but you won't be able to firewall anything.
[18:14] <jdoe> so, uh, keep that in mind.
[18:15] <jdoe> er, rather
[18:15] <jdoe> you won't be able to have a STATEFUL ipv6 firewall.
[18:15] <jdoe> until centos6 is released.
[18:15] <DDevine> Maybe thats whats breaking it.
[18:15] <jdoe> depends on what your problem is, I guess.
[18:15] <DDevine> Though it also seems to be having issues adding the default route for some reason
[18:16] <DDevine> I'll just have another shot at working it out on my own.
[18:17] <jdoe> I probably still have my configs for native ipv6 somewhere, sec.
[18:18] <DDevine> on centos?
[18:18] <jdoe> yeah.
[18:19] <jdoe> ... so, uh, basically you need NETWORKING_IPV6 (obviously) in /etc/sysconfig/network
[18:19] <DDevine> yep got that
[18:20] <jdoe> and IPV6INIT=yes, IPV6ADDR=(your machine's ipv6 addr, no brackets) and IPV6_DEFAULTGW=(your upstream ipv6 gateway)
[18:20] <jdoe> in your ifcfg-(interface) script.
[18:20] <jdoe> ... that said, I've never used this on arp.
[18:20] <DDevine> I put the gateway in /etc/sysconfig/network
[18:21] <jdoe> and again, you'll be able to block ports etc., but stateful firewalling for ip6tables is only in a more recent kernel.
[18:21] <DDevine> and by no brackets you mean with out :: ?
[18:21] <jdoe> no.
[18:21] <jdoe> I mean don't add () :P
[18:21] <DDevine> []
[18:21] <DDevine> oh
[18:21] <jdoe> IPV6ADDR=1234::1
[18:21] <jdoe> that kind of thing.
[18:21] <DDevine> well then it looks good except that gateway thing.
[18:21] <DDevine> which shouldn't be wrong, but i'll try it.
[18:24] <DDevine> It really dislikes having IPV6_DEFAULTGW in ifcfg-eth0
[18:25] <jdoe> oh
[18:25] * DDevine double checks the addresses
[18:25] <jdoe> I have all my addresses expanded.
[18:25] <jdoe> I'm not sure if it will work properly if you collapse them.
[18:25] <DDevine> Oh crap I think I have made a very bad type
[18:25] <DDevine> typo
[18:26] <jdoe> ok.
[18:26] <jdoe> well, uh, best of luck ;)
[18:28] <DDevine> It was just a typo - My address for eth0 was 2507.... instead of 2607....
[18:29] <DDevine> yay!
[18:30] <DDevine> Thanks for your help jdoe - you still saved me hours of second guessing.
[18:31] <DDevine> Once the address was right the default gatway issue dissappeared for obvious reasons.
[18:33] <jdoe> go team.
[18:35] <DDevine> I'll eventually get notes about my build into my public wiki - so that if others run into the same gateway error I can advise them to double check their addresses.
[18:38] <DDevine> I have been making a huge amount of notes lately. Having ownCloud makes it easy too because I can do it on nearly any computer without having to worry about where my files are.
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[23:01] <up_the_irons> anyone need colocation space?  I may have some space opening up soon.
[23:01] <up_the_irons> I can roll in some pretty high bandwidth deals
[23:07] <whitefang> does it have to be a rack? or can I just send you my massive old tower and you can tuck it in the back somewhere? ;)
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[23:09] <up_the_irons> whitefang: I can colo a tower, yes ;)
[23:12] <whitefang> are you for serious?
[23:14] <up_the_irons> whitefang: yeah, why not?  although I don't see _why_ you'd want to, LOL
[23:14] <whitefang> isn't it general cheaper to put together a bugdet tower than get a rack?
[23:15] <up_the_irons> whitefang: now i don't understand the question... ;)
[23:15] <up_the_irons> "get a rack" -- do you mean a rackmount server?
[23:15] <whitefang> yeah
[23:16] <up_the_irons> rackmount servers are generally more expensive, yes
[23:16] <whitefang> so that's why I'd want to send you a tower :P
[23:16] <up_the_irons> sure, no problem
[23:16] * whitefang looks for a 5foot tower
[23:17] <whitefang> hmmm, where can I find some sata tape drives ;)
[23:17] <up_the_irons> hehe
[23:17] <jazz57> up_the_irons: Is PacketExchange currently the only upstream transit provider?
[23:18] <up_the_irons> jazz57: I have packetexchange, trit networks, xeex communications, and about 40 peers
[23:18] <up_the_irons> jazz57: if you have specific bandwidth requirements, I can have them ordered; being in One Wilshire's sister building (CoreSite) gives us access to many, many carriers
[23:19] <jazz57> I was just looking at http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS25795&v=4&view=2.0
[23:19] <whitefang> up_the_irons: what kind of costs would I looking at for colo? I don't anticipate needing very much bandwidth.
[23:19] <up_the_irons> jazz57: those are never quite accurate
[23:19] <whitefang> to you generally charge by power consumption, bandwidth usage, and physical space required?
[23:20] <up_the_irons> whitefang: yeah
[23:22] <up_the_irons> I wonder if 1U + 100 Mbps (dedicated, unmetered), for $249 / mo, would be attractive to people
[23:23] <whitefang> I need more rams, not bandwidth ;)
[23:23] <up_the_irons> hah
[23:24] <whitefang> so how much for a big honking tower with lots of rams and very little bandwidth usage monthly?
[23:29] <up_the_irons> whitefang: how much power would the tower draw?
[23:39] * G sends up_the_irons a bladecentre :P
[23:40] <G> errr I'd love to anyway :)
[23:41] <G> maybe if I win Lotto :)
[23:41] <up_the_irons> haha
[23:42] * G loved playing w/ IBM Bladecentres
[23:42] <up_the_irons> nice
[23:43] <G> yeah, they normally are pretty nice
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