#arpnetworks 2010-12-14,Tue

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up_the_ironsuhoh
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2010-12-13-FreeBSD-on-EC2.html
while only experimental now, it's only a matter of time before it gets better
competition sucks ;)
(for me at least, lol) 		[00:09]
Gup_the_irons: hey not pressure btw, but any chance you could do the image switch on my VM for me sometime soon (even if you don't copy the normal Debian image in, as I'd be reinstalling it manually myself [00:12]
luckyoh, fun. *jumps ship* [00:12]
up_the_ironslol
G: reply to the ticket when you want it switched (or did you do it already?) 		[00:20]
Gup_the_irons: I think when I replied to the ticket I kinda said anytime
G double checks what I said 		[00:22]
up_the_ironsG: oh, I was waiting for you to say you were ready :) [00:23]
Gup_the_irons: ahhh okay, I thought I had implied it, but I guess I wasn't crystal clear in hindsight
up_the_irons: I was trying to imply do it whenever is best for sure in "you can destroy the whole thing"
up_the_irons: sorry :) 		[00:24]
up_the_ironsah ok [00:25]
Gmy fault for not been that clear [00:25]
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up_the_irons: thanks! [00:55]
up_the_ironsG: np :) [00:56]
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Gup_the_irons: quick sanity check if you've got a moment, I can't seem to get the console to connect [01:11]
up_the_ironsdefine console [01:12]
Gup_the_irons: serial
ssh into console.cust, > c
keeps saying connecting...down which seems a tad odd to me 		[01:12]
up_the_ironsinvestigating [01:14]
G(thats when I do ^Eco) [01:14]
up_the_ironsG: try now, appears to work [01:17]
Gup_the_irons: ahhh nice, looks good
up_the_irons: was it something I was missing? 		[01:17]
up_the_ironsG: no, it was my side [01:18]
Gyep looks good
up_the_irons: okay thanks
up_the_irons: at first I thought VNC was borked as well, but then I realised that was my fault :P 		[01:18]
up_the_irons:) [01:19]
Gup_the_irons: that was the lenny netinst in there right? [01:27]
up_the_ironsdeb 5 [01:27]
Gahhh I know what the problem is
should have realised it earlier, the netinst image doesn't have virtio 		[01:32]
up_the_ironsup_the_irons heads off to bed [01:37]
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DDevineOh. The book I'm reading recommends your book RandalSchwartz [03:09]
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Gahhh nice, the first time I've had a perfectly clean Debian VPS image :P [04:18]
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RandalSchwartzDDevine - which *one* of my books?
and why do people always say "your book" like I have only one? 		[05:15]
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DDevineRandalSchwartz: Your Perl one.
lol
(I'm assuming you have a few Perl books) 		[05:26]
GDDevine: which Perl book? out of interest [05:27]
DDevineLearning Perl [05:28]
Gactually thats odd, my perl book has disappeared
DDevine: O'Reilly? 		[05:28]
DDevineYep [05:28]
GI _think_ I've got the more in depth one
and I say think because I seem to have lost/misplaced it
which to tell the truth I'd say is a bit of a feat considering it's size :
hmmm found it, yeah I've got the Programming Perl book which recommends I get Learning Perl, because I didn't realise the Learning Perl book existed :) 		[05:30]
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dxtrnesta: iphonemagasinet.se? wtf? :P [08:32]
nestahehe [08:33]
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nestahi dxtr how are you [08:33]
dxtrI'm fine
YOu? 		[08:33]
nestagood good [08:37]
dxtrOr, well, I lied
I'm not that fine
When I think about it :P
I've got a fever and my throat is fucked up beyond repair 		[08:38]
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dxtrAlso it's -8.4 degC outside
and I've gotta go outside :P
This sucks
FML 		[08:40]
bob^^we had -15c here last week :)
now it's back to normal temperatures for this time of year - 3 or 4c :D 		[08:41]
dxtrWe had more like -25 a couple of weeks ago
That was harsh
Imagine taking the bike to work at 6 in the morning 		[08:41]
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jdoeonly 300mbit?
eesh, they oughta be ashamed ;) 		[09:14]
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loaicuany staff around? i was wanting to get an image mounted on my vps [14:15]
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luckyloaicu, you could poke up_the_irons, but the usual way is to send in a support ticket [14:59]
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jdoelol http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2 [15:24]
Gerrr I didn't realise NDAs w/ the FBI would expire
jdoe: so is that mailing list going to be renamed bsdleaks? 		[15:28]
jdoeyeah I'm skeptical too, but it's interesting if true. [15:31]
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Gouch, my backup account is 80% used, time to trim up some old backups [15:33]
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Yamazaki-kun"EOUSA, the parent organization to the FBI" == ???? [20:39]
zxvffoh i just got that email from full disclosure [20:40]
loaicuhi [20:41]
jdoeEOUSA = executive office united states attorney [20:48]
DDevineI wonder if I should upgrade to the 758MB VPS...
Its more a question of finances than anything
I guess I should be able to limp until late January when I know what will be happenning. Just worried at the mail and 3 websites is going to be a bit heavy. 		[20:50]
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GDDevine: apache? [21:12]
vcsahhh upgraded to OpenBSD 4.8, glad to get that out of the way :) [21:15]
loaicunice
i'm waiting on an image to be mounted on my vps for a fresh install
:) 		[21:19]
Gdoes the following make much sense you guys: "For Paperwork Reduction Act Notice, see seperate instructions." to me that sounds like they've used a seperate sheet of paper, to explain how they are nolonger wasting paper [21:19]
vcsyeah
the upgrade is not hard
just a couple config files you need to patch
then upgrade all packages / ports (even though they will still work probobly) 		[21:22]
loaicuyea but im not running openbsd
but kudos to you :P 		[21:23]
DDevineG: Yeah, apache is a bit heavy but I hate configuring another others.
others* 		[21:31]
GDDevine: that was my attitude, but I'm starting to switch to nginx [21:31]
DDevinenginx is good, but converting all your apache specific stuff to run on it is a real pain
I like nginx 		[21:31]
GG wasn't convinced on nginx until I used it at home as a on-demand Fedora mirror :)
which reminds me, must post my config like I said I would 		[21:32]
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DDevineCan somebody email a virus for me? Just eicar will do. http://www.rexswain.com/eicar.html to test @ mail.ddevnet.net
Gmail won't let me send it :( 		[21:48]
GDDevine: done
and you just helped me spot an issue w/ my configuration
DDevine: also is your IPv6 up?
Dec 15 18:57:16 parera postfix/smtp[2223]: connect to mail.ddevnet.net[2607:f2f8:aba0::2]:25: No route to host 		[21:55]
DDevineG: Not yet :( [21:56]
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DDevineIt was playing up so I decided to go finish the setup of some other stuff while I pondered it.
G: my greylister has delayed it... 		[21:56]
GDDevine: so I noticed :)
DDevine: you run off the normal 5 minutes right? 		[21:57]
vcsapache has always "served" me well
and it always can do what you want
configuration is simple once you know it
its not like "yeah i know sendmail, its easy"
its alot easier than that :) 		[21:59]
Gvcs: Apache has always driven me nutty
DDevine: I gave postfix a bit of a nudge 		[22:00]
vcsG: why is that
its configuration is straightfoward
and can be organized well 		[22:00]
DDevineyay mail scanner works [22:01]
Gvcs: trying to do rewriting+proxying at the same time drove me insane a year or so ago [22:01]
vcsahhh
yeah, sound complex
i have always done one or the other ;) 		[22:01]
DDevineI wish somebody would write some sort of apache configuration compatibility layer. [22:02]
Gadditional arghs for having to do do it w/ rewrites on both Apaches (i.e. between a proxy layer say and an app layer) because the PHP app relies on parts of the proxy request URI
(It wasn't my choice to use Apache on the proxy/static layer either
DDevine: I thought wordpress was going to be hard to configure w/ nginx/etc considering .htaccess, but it was easy as pie 		[22:03]
DDevineI might re-evaluate at some stage. [22:05]
Gsure try Gallery w/ nginx because now I have a better internet connection I might be encouraged to upload more to it
*should try
DDevine: I used http://wiki.nginx.org/Wordpress to test, before I ended up w/ using wordpress.com in the end :P
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DDevineI guess there is guides for almost everything I use... [22:07]
vcsive never tried nginx before [22:10]
DDevineMmm... my spamassassin sucks. Sent a very spammy mail and it went right through. [22:11]
vcslooks like it has pretty simple config
DDevine perhaps the address/domain you sent from is whitlisted which decreased its spam score? 		[22:11]
DDevinetrue
DDevine goes to look for some sort of web based spam test 		[22:11]
vcsand did you mention "viagra cialis"
:P 		[22:12]
DDevineI forwarded something about rolexes
BTW, this is how you test if your spamassassin is installed and working properly http://spamassassin.apache.org/gtube/
So I probably just need to tighten up my rules. 		[22:15]
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