#arpnetworks 2010-12-14,Tue

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Who	What	When
up_the_irons	uhoh http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2010-12-13-FreeBSD-on-EC2.html while only experimental now, it's only a matter of time before it gets better competition sucks ;) (for me at least, lol)	[00:09]
G	up_the_irons: hey not pressure btw, but any chance you could do the image switch on my VM for me sometime soon (even if you don't copy the normal Debian image in, as I'd be reinstalling it manually myself	[00:12]
lucky	oh, fun. jumps ship	[00:12]
up_the_irons	lol G: reply to the ticket when you want it switched (or did you do it already?)	[00:20]
G	up_the_irons: I think when I replied to the ticket I kinda said anytime G double checks what I said	[00:22]
up_the_irons	G: oh, I was waiting for you to say you were ready :)	[00:23]
G	up_the_irons: ahhh okay, I thought I had implied it, but I guess I wasn't crystal clear in hindsight up_the_irons: I was trying to imply do it whenever is best for sure in "you can destroy the whole thing" up_the_irons: sorry :)	[00:24]
up_the_irons	ah ok	[00:25]
G	my fault for not been that clear	[00:25]
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	up_the_irons: thanks!	[00:55]
up_the_irons	G: np :)	[00:56]
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G	up_the_irons: quick sanity check if you've got a moment, I can't seem to get the console to connect	[01:11]
up_the_irons	define console	[01:12]
G	up_the_irons: serial ssh into console.cust, > c keeps saying connecting...down which seems a tad odd to me	[01:12]
up_the_irons	investigating	[01:14]
G	(thats when I do ^Eco)	[01:14]
up_the_irons	G: try now, appears to work	[01:17]
G	up_the_irons: ahhh nice, looks good up_the_irons: was it something I was missing?	[01:17]
up_the_irons	G: no, it was my side	[01:18]
G	yep looks good up_the_irons: okay thanks up_the_irons: at first I thought VNC was borked as well, but then I realised that was my fault :P	[01:18]
up_the_irons	:)	[01:19]
G	up_the_irons: that was the lenny netinst in there right?	[01:27]
up_the_irons	deb 5	[01:27]
G	ahhh I know what the problem is should have realised it earlier, the netinst image doesn't have virtio	[01:32]
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DDevine	Oh. The book I'm reading recommends your book RandalSchwartz	[03:09]
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G	ahhh nice, the first time I've had a perfectly clean Debian VPS image :P	[04:18]
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RandalSchwartz	DDevine - which one of my books? and why do people always say "your book" like I have only one?	[05:15]
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DDevine	RandalSchwartz: Your Perl one. lol (I'm assuming you have a few Perl books)	[05:26]
G	DDevine: which Perl book? out of interest	[05:27]
DDevine	Learning Perl	[05:28]
G	actually thats odd, my perl book has disappeared DDevine: O'Reilly?	[05:28]
DDevine	Yep	[05:28]
G	I _think_ I've got the more in depth one and I say think because I seem to have lost/misplaced it which to tell the truth I'd say is a bit of a feat considering it's size : hmmm found it, yeah I've got the Programming Perl book which recommends I get Learning Perl, because I didn't realise the Learning Perl book existed :)	[05:30]
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dxtr	nesta: iphonemagasinet.se? wtf? :P	[08:32]
nesta	hehe	[08:33]
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nesta	hi dxtr how are you	[08:33]
dxtr	I'm fine YOu?	[08:33]
nesta	good good	[08:37]
dxtr	Or, well, I lied I'm not that fine When I think about it :P I've got a fever and my throat is fucked up beyond repair	[08:38]
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dxtr	Also it's -8.4 degC outside and I've gotta go outside :P This sucks FML	[08:40]
bob^^	we had -15c here last week :) now it's back to normal temperatures for this time of year - 3 or 4c :D	[08:41]
dxtr	We had more like -25 a couple of weeks ago That was harsh Imagine taking the bike to work at 6 in the morning	[08:41]
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jdoe	only 300mbit? eesh, they oughta be ashamed ;)	[09:14]
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loaicu	any staff around? i was wanting to get an image mounted on my vps	[14:15]
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lucky	loaicu, you could poke up_the_irons, but the usual way is to send in a support ticket	[14:59]
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jdoe	lol http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2	[15:24]
G	errr I didn't realise NDAs w/ the FBI would expire jdoe: so is that mailing list going to be renamed bsdleaks?	[15:28]
jdoe	yeah I'm skeptical too, but it's interesting if true.	[15:31]
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G	ouch, my backup account is 80% used, time to trim up some old backups	[15:33]
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Yamazaki-kun	"EOUSA, the parent organization to the FBI" == ????	[20:39]
zxvff	oh i just got that email from full disclosure	[20:40]
loaicu	hi	[20:41]
jdoe	EOUSA = executive office united states attorney	[20:48]
DDevine	I wonder if I should upgrade to the 758MB VPS... Its more a question of finances than anything I guess I should be able to limp until late January when I know what will be happenning. Just worried at the mail and 3 websites is going to be a bit heavy.	[20:50]
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G	DDevine: apache?	[21:12]
vcs	ahhh upgraded to OpenBSD 4.8, glad to get that out of the way :)	[21:15]
loaicu	nice i'm waiting on an image to be mounted on my vps for a fresh install :)	[21:19]
G	does the following make much sense you guys: "For Paperwork Reduction Act Notice, see seperate instructions." to me that sounds like they've used a seperate sheet of paper, to explain how they are nolonger wasting paper	[21:19]
vcs	yeah the upgrade is not hard just a couple config files you need to patch then upgrade all packages / ports (even though they will still work probobly)	[21:22]
loaicu	yea but im not running openbsd but kudos to you :P	[21:23]
DDevine	G: Yeah, apache is a bit heavy but I hate configuring another others. others*	[21:31]
G	DDevine: that was my attitude, but I'm starting to switch to nginx	[21:31]
DDevine	nginx is good, but converting all your apache specific stuff to run on it is a real pain I like nginx	[21:31]
G	G wasn't convinced on nginx until I used it at home as a on-demand Fedora mirror :) which reminds me, must post my config like I said I would	[21:32]
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DDevine	Can somebody email a virus for me? Just eicar will do. http://www.rexswain.com/eicar.html to test @ mail.ddevnet.net Gmail won't let me send it :(	[21:48]
G	DDevine: done and you just helped me spot an issue w/ my configuration DDevine: also is your IPv6 up? Dec 15 18:57:16 parera postfix/smtp[2223]: connect to mail.ddevnet.net[2607:f2f8:aba0::2]:25: No route to host	[21:55]
DDevine	G: Not yet :(	[21:56]
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DDevine	It was playing up so I decided to go finish the setup of some other stuff while I pondered it. G: my greylister has delayed it...	[21:56]
G	DDevine: so I noticed :) DDevine: you run off the normal 5 minutes right?	[21:57]
vcs	apache has always "served" me well and it always can do what you want configuration is simple once you know it its not like "yeah i know sendmail, its easy" its alot easier than that :)	[21:59]
G	vcs: Apache has always driven me nutty DDevine: I gave postfix a bit of a nudge	[22:00]
vcs	G: why is that its configuration is straightfoward and can be organized well	[22:00]
DDevine	yay mail scanner works	[22:01]
G	vcs: trying to do rewriting+proxying at the same time drove me insane a year or so ago	[22:01]
vcs	ahhh yeah, sound complex i have always done one or the other ;)	[22:01]
DDevine	I wish somebody would write some sort of apache configuration compatibility layer.	[22:02]
G	additional arghs for having to do do it w/ rewrites on both Apaches (i.e. between a proxy layer say and an app layer) because the PHP app relies on parts of the proxy request URI (It wasn't my choice to use Apache on the proxy/static layer either DDevine: I thought wordpress was going to be hard to configure w/ nginx/etc considering .htaccess, but it was easy as pie	[22:03]
DDevine	I might re-evaluate at some stage.	[22:05]
G	sure try Gallery w/ nginx because now I have a better internet connection I might be encouraged to upload more to it *should try DDevine: I used http://wiki.nginx.org/Wordpress to test, before I ended up w/ using wordpress.com in the end :P	[22:05]
DDevine	I guess there is guides for almost everything I use...	[22:07]
vcs	ive never tried nginx before	[22:10]
DDevine	Mmm... my spamassassin sucks. Sent a very spammy mail and it went right through.	[22:11]
vcs	looks like it has pretty simple config DDevine perhaps the address/domain you sent from is whitlisted which decreased its spam score?	[22:11]
DDevine	true DDevine goes to look for some sort of web based spam test	[22:11]
vcs	and did you mention "viagra cialis" :P	[22:12]
DDevine	I forwarded something about rolexes BTW, this is how you test if your spamassassin is installed and working properly http://spamassassin.apache.org/gtube/ So I probably just need to tighten up my rules.	[22:15]
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