hmmmm
so I had Garry setup reverse dns for my domain, pointed my nameservers to ns1/ns2.arpnetworks.com but its not resolving :/
I'm not sure what I've done wrong, should I be pointing my NS entries somewhere else?
hmmm, it looks like reverse is working but standard is not
if Garry is doing reverse, someone needs to do forward, heh
yeah that's what I was thinking
but godaddy, in their infinite wisdom, doesn
doesn't list their nameservers
on their site
if you use them for dns they `take care of it'
if you use yourself for dns, you `take care of it'
well I'm going to have to use godaddy for my dns
I suspect their server is cns1/2/3.secureserver.net
because you can't setup your own or ?
use their form, it's simple, if you can't do it yourself
I'd rather not have to run my own nameserver
I can do it myself with their stupid tools, the problem is they don't list what their nameservers are.
ahh got it all working.
whitefang: I regged a domain at godaddy, realized they suck and moved the domain ASAP :P
yeah
I'm going to be moving it
Now I'v got namecheap after some tips from slashdot
they don't like me add a wildcard CNAME
But they suck too
So I'm gonna move my domains from that crap place when I feel like it :P
I just heard some good things about opensvs
err
opensvc?
opensrs
Well, namecheap.com are resellers for some huge crap shit
Doesn't support ipv6 and stuff :/
i used to have styx.org at netsol, with ipv6 glue...
transferred out because they're generally evil...
lost ipv6 glue :(
(did't lose it immediately, but i was unable to change it in the gtld)
what do you mean by ipv6 glue?
whitefang: "glue" (as it relates to DNS) means that the gTLD servers have IN NS records for a nameserver that is within the same domain as the record it's pointing to.  it eliminates a circular dependency.
ah ok.
for instance..  if I own example.com,  and want to use ns1.example.com and ns2.example.com to answer queries for example.com...
with glue,  the gTLD servers would say..  "ns1 and ns2.exmaple.com are responsbile for answering these queries..  you can find them at 1.2.3.4 and 2.3.4.5"
hmmm
I suspect my system is only using 1 cpu core
hw.ncpu: 1
whitefang: I'd assume that's intended
ah ok
dedicated CPU resources
any way to check how much cpu speed I have dedicated?
ionise{43}% sysctl -a | egrep -i 'hw.machine|hw.model|hw.ncpu'                                                                                                    [~]
hw.machine: amd64
hw.model: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1
hw.ncpu: 1
hw.machine_arch: amd64
ionise{44}% dmesg | grep -i cpu                                                                                                                                   [~]
CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (2666.65-MHz K8-class CPU)
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
sorry for spam
that RPROMPT really makes it worse huh
so does that mean I have 2.7GHz allocated to just me?
whitefang: i'll share some if it w/you, if you don't want all of it
noooooooooo
its all mine?!
I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean that's dedicated to my VPS though
but I would like to know how much is
most providers don't disclose how many vpses there are per machine, beyond "not overloaded"
dunno if (but don't think) arp is any different.
Dedicated resources
    * RAM is not over subscribed
    * Dedicated CPU resources
I suspect dedicated in that context means that your vm won't be starved.
How do you dedicate a specific amount of CPU to a VM?
Seriously
it can be done
Can the program even control how many hertz it will allocate for this task?
you could budget a specific number of cycles/second
(to the VM, that is)
wooo, ipv6 IRC ^_^
kwewu: Old news :P
not for me :P
whitefang: reverse dns does not require pointing name servers to ns1/ns2.arpnetworks.com
yeah, I got it all working now, thanks.
whitefang: reverse dns does not require anything special on your part
well, it did in a way, because I was previously using rootbsds nameservers
so I had to switch to godaddys
should have read the whole scrollback.  looks like whitefang got it working :)
I'm using arpnetworks ns server in my resolv.conf and host ionise.org isn't resolving
is it just a matter of propagtion?
whitefang: propogation should be instant.  how are you trying to resolve it?
with host
 host ionise.org                                        [/usr/ports]
Host ionise.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
host ionise.org 8.8.8.8 works though
are you trying to confirm an A, AAAA, PTR or othr record?
and which arpnetworks server are you using in your resolv.conf?  ns1.arpnetworks.com and ns2.arpnetworks.com aren't configured to answer recursive queries.  they are authoratative only
whitefang: ?
whitefang: I guess you went afk.   FWIW I've verified that the host command returns the expected results on all servers I've tested against.   at a guess,  I would say your /etc/resolv.conf is using a non-recursive nameserver, and shouldn't be.
the nameserver I'm using is ns1/n2.arpnetworks.com
ok, thats your problem.
those NS's are not set up for you to use them. they are authoratative only.
http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/dns-servers
oh
I guess I don't understand why those dns servers would work to resolve google.com but not ionise.org
chances are,  it was already cached on those NS's.
so will those nameservers not eventually cache ionise.org?
I think you're confusing a couple different things.
ns1 and ns2.arpnetworks.com will not resolve queries for clients that aren't specifically authorized to use them.
you need to use the NS's that *are* configured to resolve queries. They are listed in the FAQ link I showed you.
208.79.88.7
208.79.88.9
those are ns1/ns2
as for ns1 and ns2 eventually caching your domain,  it doesn't matter if it does or not.  no other clients are going to be using them to resolve your domain.
so I am using the dns servers from those faqs
208.79.88.7 = ns1, 208.79.88.9 = ns2
whitefang: are you doing the host command from your VPS,  or your loal machine?
from my vps
what happens when you use dig +trace,  instead of host?
too much to paste ^_^
right,  read the output, and sum it up ;)
or,  pastebin it
http://codepad.org/6zjKYOu8
that looks like I would expect.
its weird that host is giving me a 2(SERVFAIL)
it didn't when you did a +trace.
that was a dig
.. I'm aware.
well yeah, it didn't for the trace.
when you traced it,  everything returned successfully.
yeah
I don't use the 'host' command,  I use dig for everything DNS related.   I'd find out what queries the host command is making,  and duplicate those in dig +trace
host by default looks for A, AAAA, and MX
well,  duplicating that with dig,   ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
I'm not getting that warning
how did you get that warning?
I used dig.
dig AAAA ionise.org @ns1.arpnetworks.com
I don't get that error
or warning rather
try your host command again.  I just flushed the cache on ns1
ahah!
thanks!
it worked?
yes!
interesting.    it must have cached an NXDOMAIN result or something.
FWIW  I don't have access to ns2.  so,  I can't clear it's cache.
ns1 is ahead of ns2 in my resolv.conf :)
will ns2 flush its cache automatically at some point?
yes
that's all good then
can you do me a favor?   submit a ticket regarding this.  I'll document and close it.   I don't want up_the_irons thinking I was just randomly clearing caches and messing with ns1 ;)
sure
thanks.
as long as I can include in my ticket "I asked jpalmer to randomly clear the cache on ns1 because I was bored and he was more than happy to oblige."
that works too :P
ticket done
by super-awesome,  I mean..  2 for loops,  and a couple mkdir's and wgets.
thanks
I'm upset that I had to answer a skilltesting question
you're welcome, I didn't really say much in it but yeah
I have to submit tickets all day at work so I'm kinda ticketed out :P
thanks a lot for your help, I was starting to think I was nuts or something.
as long as I can point at it and say "thats why,  stop beating me!"   it's good ;)
so is it mostly just the two of you doing support tickets?
I currently only do DNS requests.  Garry does everything else.
so you were just lucky that you had the one problem I could actually help with.
haha
jpalmer: s/it's/its ;)
oh I'm a douchebag.
man, the latency to this vps is great
its almost like an ssh session to something on my lan
be nice with the grammar nazi thing,  or I'll put the old cache back :P
lol
haha
its bad, because my grammar and spelling is terrible
whitefang: it's
but I can't help point out things like its and it's and your and you're cause I'm a douche :P
damn
fink: touche!
SEEEE
jpalmer: touché
touche rhymes with douche
good thing i don't have any cache problems
fink:  I dunno the right way to make that e.  (which is sad, cuz I work for a compane with that style of "e" in the name.
company, rather.
jpalmer: you're on freebsd?
fink:   OSX now,  CentOS at work.
jpalmer: ok, then it's easy
opt+e, then e
é
oh, handy.
jpalmer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_accent
I work for Voalté
cool, you guys have an iphone app
i imagine that must be freaking awesome in a hospital
star trek here we come
for communications in hospitals,  yes
mmmm, time to upgrade perl...and then I think I'll be getting close to having all my stuff migrated from my old VPS
ok, if everyone on kv14 would kindly stop doing cpu intensive stuff so my builds would go faster that would be great...kthxbye.
you're the one raping my cycles?!
yes, yes I am.
LAX has nothing on Hobart airport.
If being small is a good thing.
whitefang: I'm not stealing your cycles
"IM IN UR BOX TAKIN UR CYCLES"
lol u guys are so funy
Oi. Don't be stealin my cycles.
you need bicycle chains then
They already have a chain on them why do I need two?
you can steal a bike if it has an odd number of chains. :)
if you have 0 or 2, no problem.
is this a comp sci joke coming up?
is it?
ok, i don't get it
you can steal a bike with 1 chain ( DDevine's observation)
but not with 2 (adding a chain to tie it to the wall)
or with 0 (removing the drive chain)
by extrapolation, all odd number of chains are dangerous :)
RandalSchwartz: do you live in/around LA?  or are you there on bizniss
working for oversee.net
officially still an oregonian
you should go to a restaurant called 'the happy ending'  and order the sliders.   Take up_the_irons with you.
they is delicious.
where is that?
I wanna say hollywood and vine,  but I could be wrong.  it's been a few months since I was there last.
ahh found it
... http://maps.google.com/?q=%22the+happy+ending%22+near:+90071&ie=UTF8&hq=%22the+happy+ending%22&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California+90071&z=12
darn it - google isn't shortening links there any ore
... http://bit.ly/f1gAM5
sunset and sycamore,  yea.. thats it.
right next to H&R block
pricy,  but those sliders are worth it.  the sauce they serve it with..  deliciousness.
it's like a flavor explosion in your mouth
Be sure to give me NOPASSWD sudo access. kthx
and once again, no grope or grok.
nice
yo RandalSchwartz
RandalSchwartz: do you go through the cancer scanner?
Probably. Though the likelyhood of TSA grabbin yo junk is much higher than getting cancer....
jpalmer: unlike mike-burns I'll be happy with password authenticated sudoers access
geeze, some people are so lazy