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[09:47] <whitefang> hmmmm
[09:48] <whitefang> so I had Garry setup reverse dns for my domain, pointed my nameservers to ns1/ns2.arpnetworks.com but its not resolving :/
[09:48] <whitefang> I'm not sure what I've done wrong, should I be pointing my NS entries somewhere else?
[09:51] <whitefang> hmmm, it looks like reverse is working but standard is not
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[10:09] <toddf> if Garry is doing reverse, someone needs to do forward, heh
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[10:11] <whitefang> yeah that's what I was thinking
[10:11] <whitefang> but godaddy, in their infinite wisdom, doesn
[10:11] <whitefang> doesn't list their nameservers
[10:11] <whitefang> on their site
[10:12] <toddf> if you use them for dns they `take care of it'
[10:12] <toddf> if you use yourself for dns, you `take care of it'
[10:12] <whitefang> well I'm going to have to use godaddy for my dns
[10:12] <whitefang> I suspect their server is cns1/2/3.secureserver.net
[10:12] <toddf> because you can't setup your own or ?
[10:13] <toddf> use their form, it's simple, if you can't do it yourself
[10:13] <whitefang> I'd rather not have to run my own nameserver
[10:13] <whitefang> I can do it myself with their stupid tools, the problem is they don't list what their nameservers are.
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[11:08] <whitefang> ahh got it all working.
[11:33] <dxtr> whitefang: I regged a domain at godaddy, realized they suck and moved the domain ASAP :P
[11:34] <whitefang> yeah
[11:34] <whitefang> I'm going to be moving it
[11:34] <dxtr> Now I'v got namecheap after some tips from slashdot
[11:34] <whitefang> they don't like me add a wildcard CNAME
[11:34] <dxtr> But they suck too
[11:34] <dxtr> So I'm gonna move my domains from that crap place when I feel like it :P
[11:34] <whitefang> I just heard some good things about opensvs
[11:35] <whitefang> err
[11:35] <dxtr> opensvc?
[11:35] <whitefang> opensrs
[11:35] <dxtr> Well, namecheap.com are resellers for some huge crap shit
[11:36] <dxtr> Doesn't support ipv6 and stuff :/
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[12:12] <ww> i used to have styx.org at netsol, with ipv6 glue...
[12:12] <ww> transferred out because they're generally evil...
[12:12] <ww> lost ipv6 glue :(
[12:13] <ww> (did't lose it immediately, but i was unable to change it in the gtld)
[12:16] <whitefang> what do you mean by ipv6 glue?
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[12:28] <jpalmer> whitefang: "glue" (as it relates to DNS) means that the gTLD servers have IN NS records for a nameserver that is within the same domain as the record it's pointing to.  it eliminates a circular dependency.
[12:29] <whitefang> ah ok.
[12:29] <jpalmer> for instance..  if I own example.com,  and want to use ns1.example.com and ns2.example.com to answer queries for example.com...
[12:30] <jpalmer> with glue,  the gTLD servers would say..  "ns1 and ns2.exmaple.com are responsbile for answering these queries..  you can find them at 1.2.3.4 and 2.3.4.5"
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[12:41] <whitefang> hmmm
[12:41] <whitefang> I suspect my system is only using 1 cpu core
[12:41] <whitefang> hw.ncpu: 1
[12:42] <dxtr> whitefang: I'd assume that's intended
[12:43] <whitefang> ah ok
[12:43] <whitefang> dedicated CPU resources
[12:44] <whitefang> any way to check how much cpu speed I have dedicated?
[12:44] <whitefang> ionise{43}% sysctl -a | egrep -i 'hw.machine|hw.model|hw.ncpu'                                                                                                    [~]
[12:44] <whitefang> hw.machine: amd64
[12:44] <whitefang> hw.model: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1
[12:44] <whitefang> hw.ncpu: 1
[12:44] <whitefang> hw.machine_arch: amd64
[12:45] <whitefang> ionise{44}% dmesg | grep -i cpu                                                                                                                                   [~]
[12:45] <whitefang> CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (2666.65-MHz K8-class CPU)
[12:45] <whitefang> cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
[12:46] <whitefang> sorry for spam
[12:46] <whitefang> that RPROMPT really makes it worse huh
[12:46] <whitefang> so does that mean I have 2.7GHz allocated to just me?
[12:49] <fink> whitefang: i'll share some if it w/you, if you don't want all of it
[12:50] <whitefang> noooooooooo
[12:50] <whitefang> its all mine?!
[12:51] <whitefang> I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean that's dedicated to my VPS though
[12:51] <whitefang> but I would like to know how much is
[12:57] <jdoe> most providers don't disclose how many vpses there are per machine, beyond "not overloaded"
[12:57] <jdoe> dunno if (but don't think) arp is any different.
[12:57] <whitefang> Dedicated resources
[12:57] <whitefang>     * RAM is not over subscribed
[12:57] <whitefang>     * Dedicated CPU resources
[12:58] <jdoe> I suspect dedicated in that context means that your vm won't be starved.
[12:59] <dxtr> How do you dedicate a specific amount of CPU to a VM?
[12:59] <dxtr> Seriously
[12:59] <bob___> it can be done
[12:59] <dxtr> Can the program even control how many hertz it will allocate for this task?
[12:59] <bob___> you could budget a specific number of cycles/second
[12:59] <bob___> (to the VM, that is)
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[13:27] <dxtr> kwewu: Old news :P
[13:28] <kwewu> not for me :P
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[14:17] <up_the_irons> whitefang: reverse dns does not require pointing name servers to ns1/ns2.arpnetworks.com
[14:17] <whitefang> yeah, I got it all working now, thanks.
[14:17] <up_the_irons> whitefang: reverse dns does not require anything special on your part
[14:18] <whitefang> well, it did in a way, because I was previously using rootbsds nameservers
[14:18] <whitefang> so I had to switch to godaddys
[14:18] <up_the_irons> should have read the whole scrollback.  looks like whitefang got it working :)
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[15:54] <whitefang> I'm using arpnetworks ns server in my resolv.conf and host ionise.org isn't resolving
[15:54] <whitefang> is it just a matter of propagtion?
[15:56] <jpalmer> whitefang: propogation should be instant.  how are you trying to resolve it?
[15:56] <whitefang> with host
[15:56] <whitefang>  host ionise.org                                        [/usr/ports]
[15:56] <whitefang> Host ionise.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[15:57] <whitefang> host ionise.org 8.8.8.8 works though
[15:58] <jpalmer> are you trying to confirm an A, AAAA, PTR or othr record?
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[16:02] <jpalmer> and which arpnetworks server are you using in your resolv.conf?  ns1.arpnetworks.com and ns2.arpnetworks.com aren't configured to answer recursive queries.  they are authoratative only
[16:06] <jpalmer> whitefang: ?
[16:25] <jpalmer> whitefang: I guess you went afk.   FWIW I've verified that the host command returns the expected results on all servers I've tested against.   at a guess,  I would say your /etc/resolv.conf is using a non-recursive nameserver, and shouldn't be.
[16:43] <whitefang> the nameserver I'm using is ns1/n2.arpnetworks.com
[16:44] <jpalmer> ok, thats your problem.
[16:44] <jpalmer> those NS's are not set up for you to use them. they are authoratative only.
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[16:45] <jpalmer> http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/dns-servers
[16:45] <whitefang> oh
[16:46] <whitefang> I guess I don't understand why those dns servers would work to resolve google.com but not ionise.org
[16:47] <jpalmer> chances are,  it was already cached on those NS's.
[16:48] <whitefang> so will those nameservers not eventually cache ionise.org?
[16:49] <jpalmer> I think you're confusing a couple different things.
[16:49] <jpalmer> ns1 and ns2.arpnetworks.com will not resolve queries for clients that aren't specifically authorized to use them.
[16:50] <jpalmer> you need to use the NS's that *are* configured to resolve queries. They are listed in the FAQ link I showed you.
[16:50] <whitefang> 208.79.88.7
[16:50] <whitefang> 208.79.88.9
[16:50] <whitefang> those are ns1/ns2
[16:50] <jpalmer> as for ns1 and ns2 eventually caching your domain,  it doesn't matter if it does or not.  no other clients are going to be using them to resolve your domain.
[16:51] <whitefang> so I am using the dns servers from those faqs
[16:52] <whitefang> 208.79.88.7 = ns1, 208.79.88.9 = ns2
[16:53] <jpalmer> whitefang: are you doing the host command from your VPS,  or your loal machine?
[16:53] <whitefang> from my vps
[16:56] <jpalmer> what happens when you use dig +trace,  instead of host?
[16:57] <whitefang> too much to paste ^_^
[16:57] <jpalmer> right,  read the output, and sum it up ;)
[16:57] <jpalmer> or,  pastebin it
[16:58] <whitefang> http://codepad.org/6zjKYOu8
[16:59] <jpalmer> that looks like I would expect.
[17:02] <whitefang> its weird that host is giving me a 2(SERVFAIL)
[17:04] <jpalmer> it didn't when you did a +trace.
[17:04] <whitefang> that was a dig
[17:04] <jpalmer> .. I'm aware.
[17:05] <whitefang> well yeah, it didn't for the trace.
[17:05] <jpalmer> when you traced it,  everything returned successfully.
[17:05] <whitefang> yeah
[17:07] <jpalmer> I don't use the 'host' command,  I use dig for everything DNS related.   I'd find out what queries the host command is making,  and duplicate those in dig +trace
[17:09] <whitefang> host by default looks for A, AAAA, and MX
[17:12] <jpalmer> well,  duplicating that with dig,   ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
[17:15] <whitefang> I'm not getting that warning
[17:15] <whitefang> how did you get that warning?
[17:15] <jpalmer> I used dig.
[17:15] <jpalmer> dig AAAA ionise.org @ns1.arpnetworks.com
[17:16] <whitefang> I don't get that error
[17:17] <whitefang> or warning rather
[17:17] <jpalmer> try your host command again.  I just flushed the cache on ns1
[17:17] <whitefang> ahah!
[17:17] <whitefang> thanks!
[17:18] <jpalmer> it worked?
[17:18] <whitefang> yes!
[17:19] <jpalmer> interesting.    it must have cached an NXDOMAIN result or something.
[17:19] <jpalmer> FWIW  I don't have access to ns2.  so,  I can't clear it's cache.
[17:20] <whitefang> ns1 is ahead of ns2 in my resolv.conf :)
[17:20] <whitefang> will ns2 flush its cache automatically at some point?
[17:20] <jpalmer> yes
[17:20] <whitefang> that's all good then
[17:21] <jpalmer> can you do me a favor?   submit a ticket regarding this.  I'll document and close it.   I don't want up_the_irons thinking I was just randomly clearing caches and messing with ns1 ;)
[17:22] <whitefang> sure
[17:22] <jpalmer> thanks.
[17:23] <whitefang> as long as I can include in my ticket "I asked jpalmer to randomly clear the cache on ns1 because I was bored and he was more than happy to oblige."
[17:23] <jpalmer> that works too :P
[17:24] * jpalmer gets back to his super-awesome adduser script.
[17:24] <whitefang> ticket done
[17:24] <jpalmer> by super-awesome,  I mean..  2 for loops,  and a couple mkdir's and wgets.
[17:25] <jpalmer> thanks
[17:25] <whitefang> I'm upset that I had to answer a skilltesting question
[17:25] <whitefang> you're welcome, I didn't really say much in it but yeah
[17:25] <whitefang> I have to submit tickets all day at work so I'm kinda ticketed out :P
[17:25] <whitefang> thanks a lot for your help, I was starting to think I was nuts or something.
[17:26] <jpalmer> as long as I can point at it and say "thats why,  stop beating me!"   it's good ;)
[17:29] <whitefang> so is it mostly just the two of you doing support tickets?
[17:29] <jpalmer> I currently only do DNS requests.  Garry does everything else.
[17:30] <jpalmer> so you were just lucky that you had the one problem I could actually help with.
[17:31] <whitefang> haha
[17:32] <whitefang> jpalmer: s/it's/its ;)
[17:32] <whitefang> oh I'm a douchebag.
[17:34] <whitefang> man, the latency to this vps is great
[17:34] <whitefang> its almost like an ssh session to something on my lan
[17:35] <jpalmer> be nice with the grammar nazi thing,  or I'll put the old cache back :P
[17:36] <jpalmer> lol
[17:37] <whitefang> haha
[17:37] <whitefang> its bad, because my grammar and spelling is terrible
[17:37] <fink> whitefang: it's
[17:37] <whitefang> but I can't help point out things like its and it's and your and you're cause I'm a douche :P
[17:38] <whitefang> damn
[17:38] <jpalmer> fink: touche!
[17:38] <whitefang> SEEEE
[17:38] <fink> jpalmer: touché
[17:38] <fink> touche rhymes with douche
[17:38] <fink> good thing i don't have any cache problems
[17:38] <jpalmer> fink:  I dunno the right way to make that e.  (which is sad, cuz I work for a compane with that style of "e" in the name.
[17:39] <jpalmer> company, rather.
[17:39] <fink> jpalmer: you're on freebsd?
[17:39] <jpalmer> fink:   OSX now,  CentOS at work.
[17:39] <fink> jpalmer: ok, then it's easy
[17:39] <fink> opt+e, then e
[17:39] <jpalmer> é
[17:39] <jpalmer> oh, handy.
[17:40] <fink> jpalmer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_accent
[17:40] <jpalmer> I work for Voalté
[17:40] <fink> cool, you guys have an iphone app
[17:40] <fink> i imagine that must be freaking awesome in a hospital
[17:40] <fink> star trek here we come
[17:40] <jpalmer> for communications in hospitals,  yes
[17:42] <whitefang> mmmm, time to upgrade perl...and then I think I'll be getting close to having all my stuff migrated from my old VPS
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[17:43] <whitefang> ok, if everyone on kv14 would kindly stop doing cpu intensive stuff so my builds would go faster that would be great...kthxbye.
[17:44] <jpalmer> you're the one raping my cycles?!
[17:45] <whitefang> yes, yes I am.
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[18:41] * RandalSchwartz waves from LAX
[18:43] <DDevine> LAX has nothing on Hobart airport.
[18:43] <DDevine> If being small is a good thing.
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[19:33] <G> whitefang: I'm not stealing your cycles
[19:34] * G starts a make -j 512
[19:37] <RandalSchwartz> "IM IN UR BOX TAKIN UR CYCLES"
[19:43] <fink> lol u guys are so funy
[19:44] <DDevine> Oi. Don't be stealin my cycles.
[19:46] <RandalSchwartz> you need bicycle chains then
[19:49] <DDevine> They already have a chain on them why do I need two?
[19:50] <RandalSchwartz> you can steal a bike if it has an odd number of chains. :)
[19:50] <RandalSchwartz> if you have 0 or 2, no problem.
[19:50] <fink> is this a comp sci joke coming up?
[19:50] <RandalSchwartz> is it?
[19:50] * RandalSchwartz was never a comp sci
[19:51] <fink> ok, i don't get it
[19:54] <RandalSchwartz> you can steal a bike with 1 chain ( DDevine's observation)
[19:54] <RandalSchwartz> but not with 2 (adding a chain to tie it to the wall)
[19:54] <RandalSchwartz> or with 0 (removing the drive chain)
[19:54] <RandalSchwartz> by extrapolation, all odd number of chains are dangerous :)
[19:56] <jpalmer> RandalSchwartz: do you live in/around LA?  or are you there on bizniss
[19:57] <RandalSchwartz> working for oversee.net
[19:57] <RandalSchwartz> officially still an oregonian
[19:57] <jpalmer> you should go to a restaurant called 'the happy ending'  and order the sliders.   Take up_the_irons with you.
[19:58] <jpalmer> they is delicious.
[19:58] <RandalSchwartz> where is that?
[19:58] <jpalmer> I wanna say hollywood and vine,  but I could be wrong.  it's been a few months since I was there last.
[19:58] <RandalSchwartz> ahh found it
[19:58] <RandalSchwartz> ... http://maps.google.com/?q=%22the+happy+ending%22+near:+90071&ie=UTF8&hq=%22the+happy+ending%22&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California+90071&z=12
[19:59] <RandalSchwartz> darn it - google isn't shortening links there any ore
[20:00] <RandalSchwartz> ... http://bit.ly/f1gAM5
[20:00] <jpalmer> sunset and sycamore,  yea.. thats it.
[20:00] <RandalSchwartz> right next to H&R block
[20:01] <jpalmer> pricy,  but those sliders are worth it.  the sauce they serve it with..  deliciousness.
[20:01] <jpalmer> it's like a flavor explosion in your mouth
[20:03] * jpalmer goes back to making a decent sudoers template for about 300 machines.
[20:04] <mike-burns> Be sure to give me NOPASSWD sudo access. kthx
[20:05] * RandalSchwartz starts packing up to head to the departure gate
[20:05] <RandalSchwartz> and once again, no grope or grok.
[20:05] <RandalSchwartz> nice
[20:15] <fink> yo RandalSchwartz
[20:15] <fink> RandalSchwartz: do you go through the cancer scanner?
[20:31] <DDevine> Probably. Though the likelyhood of TSA grabbin yo junk is much higher than getting cancer....
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[23:47] <whitefang> jpalmer: unlike mike-burns I'll be happy with password authenticated sudoers access
[23:47] <whitefang> geeze, some people are so lazy