[00:01] darn guess that means I can't sell all these pills either.... [00:01] :P [00:02] yeah, that is pretty much Don't be Stupid(tm) [00:03] and compared to Blizzards EULAs its extremely light reading and I can't detect having to give up rights to my soul anywhere. [00:04] i don't agree with the part where we don't get tshirts [00:06] wait, tshirts? I'm in! [00:07] * jpalmer heads off to bed. [00:08] there's no mention of t-shirts so I guess we don't get t-shirts [00:08] I would have to not agree about that as well [00:08] I also don't agree about the part of having to wait until the 7th to sign up :( [00:09] whitefang: you can do HE.net's IPv6 certification for a tshirt [00:09] orly? [00:10] http://ipv6.he.net/certification, once you reach "Sage" level, you can request the shirt. [00:10] * G hasn't got mine yet [00:10] does it cost money? [00:11] whitefang: nope [00:11] free [00:11] oh I'm retarded [00:11] it says free right there [00:11] damn, a free t-shirt. [00:11] ok, bedtime. good luck! [00:12] g'night! [00:13] gosh it's only midnight there? [00:39] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:40] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [00:42] *** fink_ has joined #arpnetworks [00:42] *** fink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:42] *** fink_ is now known as fink [01:00] * up_the_irons is almost done with the server [01:13] cool [01:13] went to a party for oversee.net tonight [01:14] at Beso [01:49] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [01:53] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [02:29] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:30] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [02:32] jpalmer: if you're outside the US it may not show up. [02:32] jpalmer: mine never did :( [02:32] in fairness, the shirt is just... just stunningly ugly. [02:36] jdoe: argh, guess I'll give up hope on getting one then [02:37] RandalSchwartz: hmmm domain name sellers eh? [02:38] maybe I should transfer a couple of my domains and try to sell them [02:44] G: well, never say never, but it's been months. Mine might have gotten lost, I suppose ;) [02:45] I will say one thing about the HE guys though [02:47] I'm forced to use their tunnels atm, both in NZ and my current VPS' (hopefully can reduce it to two tunnels if I like ARP :)), my LA tunnel to NZ broke quite badly, the /48 was un-routable etc, so I collected a heap of traceroutes etc, e-mailed them and it was fixed in 6 minutes, so they mightn't be able to work t-shirt distribution very well, but they know their networks :) [03:44] up_the_irons: is the server you're working on the one that's gonna host my VPS on Dec.7? [03:54] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [03:58] I want to move my minecraft server off of my home connection so I can start downloading stuff without my friends getting upset ^_^ [04:06] whitefang: always a good plan ;) [04:08] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [04:13] *** hsbt has quit IRC (Quit: Tiarra 0.1: SIGTERM received; exit) [04:13] *** hsbt has joined #arpnetworks [04:54] whitefang: for all we know he could have gone to sleep, it is late over there, do what I just did and e-mail it in as a preorder :) [04:56] yeah, I'm not sure me emails are reaching them :/ [04:56] my MTA was reporting temporarily unavailable... [04:57] so I sent it from gmail, no bounceback but who knows [04:57] I may have spammed them like 5 times ^_^ [05:01] to be fair, I didn't get an autoresponse [05:02] I'm not too worried about an auto-response. [05:02] that said.... [05:03] but it just didn't look like my mail was even delivered, and since I can't check the MTA logs for my gmail account... [05:03] Dec 6 01:54:30 whio postfix/smtp[24308]: 2F53B145CD: to=, relay=mail2.arpnetworks.com[208.79.88.14]:25, delay=12, delays=0.21/0.02/11/0.03, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host mail2.arpnetworks.com[208.79.88.14] said: 451 Temporary failure, please try again later. (in reply to DATA command)) [05:03] I have no idea if that got through too. [05:03] yeah. [05:03] ohhhhh, I wonder if they're using greylisting. [05:03] Yes I think they are [05:04] lmfao, so yeah, I spammed them [05:05] greylisting <3 [05:05] yeah, running my own mailserver is so much better than letting Google do it w/ postini [05:06] Postini caused so many false-positivies & false-negatives that I nearly used my Inbox as my spam folder, and Postini as my inbox [05:06] (well not quite, but you get the picture ;)) [05:07] Postgrey+SpamAssassin has resulted in zero false positivies that I've noticed and very few spammy e-mails getting into my inbox [05:07] and they are normally borderline [05:09] dxtr: hmmm still a 451 after 10 minutes GreyListing is normally 5 minutes [05:09] Why do you need spamassassin? [05:09] Well, greylisting doesn't return 451 either so :P [05:10] I was running SpamAssassin and it did the trick but it was a little overkill for a personal server... [05:10] dxtr: I use spamassassin to catch the 120 or so e-amils I just trashed out of my Spam folder that have managed to get their triplet in my GreyList filter via luck etc [05:10] and I'm limited on resources so I canned that. [05:10] I have RBL works pretty good. [05:11] G: I use some tight rules in Postfix [05:11] dxtr: I just use it as a forked process out of procmail instead of the whole spamd 9 yards [05:11] Also running postgrey [05:11] yeah Postgrey is what I'm running here too [05:11] And I don't get any spam whatsoever [05:12] No sucky spamassassin :P [05:12] I don't really care about running spamassassin [05:12] if it works etc then I'm not going to complain [05:13] anyway, 2 AM, sleep time :) [05:13] 14:14 here P [05:13] :P [05:17] dxtr: somewhere in Central-east Europe I take it? [05:17] G: North actually [05:17] Sweden [05:17] oh Sweden [05:18] I just woke up [05:18] And it's snowing... again [05:18] what a sleep-in! :) [05:18] HOw much snow can there be? :P [05:18] it never snows here [05:18] Someone must be running out of snow soon [05:18] postgrey + tmda ftw [05:19] that said I don't want any.... An Actress/Model got arrested for possession of NZ$500,000 of drugs (Meth/P) that turned out to be fake snow from a $2 shop [05:19] Haha [05:19] But this in fact real snow [05:19] I can provide pictures if you want P [05:19] :p [05:20] dxtr: oh know, I've got plenty of social media updates of people from my last job that are located in UK/US moaning about the snow already ;) [05:20] *oh no [05:20] Haha [05:21] up here in scotland... 2ft of snow... and they don't seem to have any snow plows... [05:21] i guess they just wait for spring... [05:21] ww: didn't the same thing happen last year? [05:21] The only reason I'm complaining is because.. Well.. Taking the bike in -20 degC and 15-20cm of snow kind of sucks [05:21] G: maybe a bit later in the year, and it melted quickly enough iirc [05:21] Other than that I like the winters here [05:21] I distinctly remember the excuse that none of the UK team could arrive was "It's snowing and the council doesn't have any salt/etc to put on the road" [05:22] or ploughs etc [05:23] yeah, it's pretty funny (to a canadian expat) [05:23] dxtr: personally, I'd kill to have a snowy winter ;) It's so boring here.... Summer = Hot, Sunny, Windy, a little bit of rain.... Winter = Lots of rain, a bit of Sun, very 'cool', and plenty of wind [05:23] :P [05:24] :P [05:24] Living in a valley also doesn't help w/ the Winter cool [05:25] taht said, I survived this winter pretty much in shorts + t-shirt + max 1 jersey [05:25] :P [05:25] I somehow have adapted to living w/ & standing the cold [05:26] That's awesome [05:26] HOw cold is "cold"? [05:31] cold is when your breath forms ice on the hairs of your upper lip (for the mustachioed ones anyways) [05:55] how many dedicated IPs do you get with an account? [05:57] whitefang: one, unless you order more [05:58] I think :O [05:58] .p [05:58] the "All VPS plans include:" list says "Dedicated IPs" [05:58] which makes it sound like more than one. [05:58] and the extas has $4 per /29 subnet... [05:59] so I'm wondering if a /29 is included with all packages [06:00] Could be [06:00] I honestly have no idea [06:00] I've got a /28 :P [06:01] hella vanity hosts ;) [06:01] mmmm, vanity hosts. [06:03] so I'm a complete ipv6 noob, but from what I can tell an ipv6 /48 is "65,536 LAN segments" [06:05] what does that mean as far as public addresses? [06:06] 2^(128-48) addrss' [06:06] address' [06:07] You'll get 65536 /64s [06:07] those arn't all public addresses though are they? [06:11] whitefang: yup they are [06:11] you can have 1208925819614629174706176 ipv6 vanity hosts [06:12] ipv6 reversis on IRC? any time I see someone on ipv6 it looks like its just showing their ipv6 address and not a hostname. [06:13] what on earth would I do with 1208925819614629174706176 vanity hosts. [06:14] whitefang many people don't bother setting up their v6 reverse, but you can do it easily enough [06:15] huh [06:16] you need to have a zone set up for a.b.c.d.e....ip6.arpa and get arp to delegate your netblock's zone to you [06:18] whitefang: Well, if you don't need all of the IPs don't use all of them :p [06:18] It's that simple [06:19] dxtr: I don't like that answer. [06:19] I think a better solution is randomly generated vanity hosts ;) [06:20] okay [06:20] ohohoh, I know... [06:20] whitefang: remember you can spell things with hex digits :) [06:21] I could make ascii pictures with hostnames so when if I joined a channel 10 times I could make a pretty picture [06:21] dead babe beef cafe [06:21] \o [06:21] and it would leave a pretty picture in the banlist too :P [06:23] ww: I'll just get do a replace on the english dictionary with a/4, e/3, i/1, l/7, ate/8, etc and random generate 60,000 hosts from there. [07:53] only two more dayyyyysssss. 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[09:42] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [09:50] I get an error message :P [09:50] Anyway, solved it [10:11] error messages. never wanted. :) [10:39] Trying to ssh over TOR :D [10:39] And it works [10:39] Surprisingly [10:39] Even getting the awesome tor speed [10:54] *** ftp has joined #arpnetworks [10:57] *** ftp has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:57] *** nesta has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [10:57] *** nesta has joined #arpnetworks [11:11] *** nesta has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [11:12] *** ftp has joined #arpnetworks [11:12] *** ftp is now known as nesta [11:14] *** nesta has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:22] Removed Sold Out sign (2 days ahead of schedule!), we're ready to rock! [12:22] * up_the_irons is tired and wanders off [12:25] up_the_irons: and ordered, thanks ;) [12:26] and hmmm should have whitelisted in advance too [12:30] *** ce_300now has joined #arpnetworks [12:30] *** ce_300now has left [12:33] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [12:51] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [13:02] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Quit: amdprophet) [13:03] *** amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks [13:07] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:38] How would I use a serial console if I've only got a serial port on one end? :P [13:38] rs232 over esp? [13:39] google only gives me some expensive hardware [13:39] Is that it? [13:41] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [13:42] dxtr: USB? [13:43] Is there a serial-to-usb thing? [13:43] dxtr: serial to USB converter, in NZ they are like $20 (and for comparison, a Starbucks coffee is about $5) [13:44] It's always awesome to have some comparisons [13:44] esp is the great universal transport. from your mind right to the computer [13:45] hmmm maybe 40 bucks now... [13:45] http://ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=8287666 [13:46] dxtr: http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=ADPSTL12857 is a fairly compact one [13:46] dxtr: is for something like server to a laptop or something like that? [13:46] I'm considering buying an aALIX [13:47] .. but I've only got laptops, so no serial thingy :P [13:47] not sure what an aALIX is, but yeah, sounds like the sorta thing you'd need [13:47] the USB to serial converters work fine, and ALIX boards are great. [13:48] oh just ALIX [13:48] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:48] G, ALIX is the modern version of the old PCEngines WRAP boards [13:49] jpalmer: I tried a google, but aalix was fruitless, yeah I read up on those a while back [13:49] we used a bunch of WRAPs years ago. ran a WISP.. at the base of each tower, I used a WRAP setup as a squid cache. [13:57] *** nakano_ is now known as nakano [14:01] if i had money to burn on a new laptop, i'd get http://tinyurl.com/37nkde3 [14:01] why am i telling you this? because it has a serial port [14:01] (and you can drop it without it breaking) [14:02] ww: Get a Keyspan USB to Serial converter. I use it on my T61 and MSI Wind and PowerBook G4 (The old days) with no problems [14:03] configured many Cisco devices and headless Atom boxes with OpenBSD output to com0, with it... [14:04] up_the_irons: dxtr was the one who wanted a serial port... in my current life i don't have much need for one... [14:04] dxtr: ^^ :) [14:04] ... but a laptop that you can happily drop and that is toddler resistant is still a big selling point :) [14:04] up_the_irons: Care to send me one? :D [14:05] *** vapor has joined #arpnetworks [14:05] sup guys [14:28] I think you can get a serial port on the Dell 6500 laptop if you use a port replicator. I used to be extremely dependent on serial ports because I use Speakup http://linux-speakup.org. Now it supports software speech synthesis, so it matters less to me now. [14:31] up_the_irons: woohoo, thanks :) [14:36] G: no problem! [14:39] now to pick another native bird name for rDNS [14:44] up_the_irons: I take it that you can delegate the rDNS for the IPv6 range correct? [14:45] G: yup [15:03] * jpalmer perks his ears up. did I hear an rDNS delegation request? [15:05] G, mind if I /msg? [15:07] jpalmer: anytime [15:08] * wacker wonders if it's possible to order a VPS with IPv6 only. A bit early to actually do it, but a fun thought nevertheless. [15:09] wacker: you can. just order a normal VPS, and remove the IPv4 settings. [15:12] Of course, but it a nice idea for the provider to not even have to allocate a block. As I said, a bit early for that. [15:53] *** hsbt has quit IRC (Quit: Tiarra 0.1: SIGTERM received; exit) [15:53] *** hsbt has joined #arpnetworks [16:15] ouch, that support system leaves ugly ^M's everywhere in the replies :) [16:19] *** DDevine has joined #arpnetworks [16:20] Greetings. [16:21] I guess I better start getting ready to do my server migration :) [16:22] Goodbye crappy OpenVZ... hello full virtualisation and IPv6. [16:27] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:37] DDevine: Yeah openvz sucks bigtime [16:38] wacker: Btw, you use that stuff? How do you cope with busy IRC channels? :P [16:38] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:38] I've always wondered that [16:39] dxtr: OpenVZ is much better than shared hosting, but as soon as you want TUN/TAP or FUSE it is almost impossible to get the provider to tune your container. [16:39] DDevine: Shared hosting and openvz sucks balls [16:39] DDevine: my view is that OpenVZ etc is about the same as shared hosting :P [16:39] Just sayin' [16:40] It isn't even true virtualization. It's just.. meh [16:40] as bad as each other in my book [16:46] and you're stuck with linux, right? :) [16:48] RandalSchwartz: and without a real kernel and without any privacy from the system overlords etc etc :) [16:52] I try to like FreeBSD but I just haven't got it yet. Might try Debian/kFreeBSD sometime. [16:52] Would be nice to use Jails. [16:52] better than being in one :) [16:55] I found it a bit funny that CentOS wasn't one of the default distros offered. [16:55] eh, you can still request a CentOS image be mounted. [16:55] I reinstall the OS immediately anyway. I don't care what OS they officially offe ;) [16:56] DDevine: install it thyself no need to worry about pre-installed muck etc :P [16:56] jpalmer: Yeah I requested an ISO be mounted up for me. [16:57] that asid, I am going to play w/ FreeBSD before I request a different image, can't decide to stick w/ Debian and do a straight migration or to switch to CentOS6 when it comes out [16:58] freebsd rocks [16:58] I'm a longtime BSD admin. trying to give redhat/centos a fair try. [17:02] DDevine: what is your username? I'm not seeing a CentOS media change request [17:02] G: Yeah I was hoping to get CentOS 6 but that looks a ways off yet. 5.5 is pretty good though. [17:02] err, you can /msg me the info [17:02] jpalmer: I just put it in the comments with my order that probably hasn't been processed yet [17:17] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 259 seconds) [17:20] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [17:22] dxtr: If I fall behind, I just open the logfile and catch up. [17:24] wacker: What logfile? [17:25] dxtr: Most IRC clients keep a log of each channel [17:25] Oh, shit, I thought we were something about something totally unrelated :P [17:25] Sorry [17:26] dxtr: I didn't see the start of this conversation, so I may be incorrect. [17:26] wacker: That's cool [17:26] No you're right [17:27] DDevine: Thing is I was speaking to someone about falling behind in my swedish course because I thought it started tomorrow when it in fact started last week [17:27] So I thought that's what he meant with "when I fall behind" :P [17:27] I should learn Swedish too. [17:28] I'm kind of swedish so one could say that I know it [17:32] DDevine: Why do you wanna learn swedish, btw? :) [17:32] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [17:32] Or, why "should" you? It isn't like it's really usable [17:33] dxtr: I am interested in going to Sweden, possibly on an extended stay. [17:33] Second languages are also good in general [17:34] I also know a few Swedes and it would be nice to not be totally ignorant. [17:34] I meet may people on the internet who wants to go to Sweden [17:34] Why is that? :D [17:34] Not that I'm against it or anything. I'm just being curious [17:35] Its just... nice. [17:35] I like the whole Scandanavian area. [17:35] Also, the best metal comes from there :) [17:35] Cold and snowy during the winter, a friggin' dessert during the summer :P [17:35] Metal.. eew :/ [17:44] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [17:51] Where is the datacenter located? [18:00] wilshire annex [18:00] los angeles [18:01] california [18:01] usa [18:01] earth [18:01] do you need lat/lon? :) [18:03] ... http://goo.gl/maps/FlyI [18:03] *** fink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:03] G: I've complained about the ^M's; totally stupid. Apparently their smtp mailer is on a WinShit box [18:05] up_the_irons: haha yeah, I noticed after the fact Mailer: aspNetEmail [18:06] yup [18:06] I guess w/ the unique froms, I should whitelist their MX's [18:08] ntime to reboot for updated kernel! [18:08] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : when you're talking to yourself, and nobody's home) [18:10] RandalSchwartz: Just the city was enough [18:10] eh [18:10] heh [18:11] * RandalSchwartz wanders off to dinner [18:15] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [18:16] Wow. It looks like around that place alone there is more rail and road infrastructure than in the whole of Australia put together. [18:30] well - that's union station [18:30] the big hub for the southern west coast [18:30] chicago trainyards are much bigger [18:34] We are finally getting rid of Telstra, so at least our telecommunications infrastructure is going to improve. However our roads kinda suck and our public transport is in the hands of a crappy companies intent on providing the bare minimum. [18:37] DDevine: did the split of Telstra's wholesale and retail divisions go through? [18:37] wacker: From what I gather, yes. [18:37] I haven't been paying too much attention. [18:38] excellent. BTW, if I lived in Australia, Internode would be my provider. They take IPv6 seriously! [18:44] everyone will, soon [18:44] where's that countdown clock... ipv6.he.net I think [18:44] up_the_irons, do you have any ipv6 peers other than he.net? doesn't seem like it. [18:45] 87 days [18:45] blovett: yeah, i have like 10 [18:45] hrm. [18:45] anyone that peers with cogent or level3? [18:45] wacker: I am on internode. [18:45] blovett: HE gives a full routing table, as well as Trit Networks [18:45] 'cause I can't reach a network announced by either of those. [18:46] 2607:f2f8::/32 specifically [18:46] err, shit [18:46] sorry [18:46] 2607:f790::/32 [18:47] wrong paste. [18:48] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [18:50] Ddevine: are you on the ADSL IPv6 trial? [18:50] 87 days? seems like it was a week ago, that it was 140 days. [18:50] jpalmer: yeah, but 4 /8s were assigned [18:50] some lareish allocations must've happened [18:51] G ahh. where do you get that info? [18:51] Slashdot/nanog/nznog [18:51] not subscribed to the latter two, but as soon as i heard mumblings I jumped onto nznog and saw [18:51] I see it on arin.net [18:53] ... https://www.arin.net/announcements/2010/20101130.html [18:54] there. blogged. :) [18:57] RandalSchwartz: not official until Randal Blogs? :) [19:00] *** vapor has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [19:03] some would say. :) [19:07] *** vapor has joined #arpnetworks [19:16] *** fink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:22] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [19:25] *** fink has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:30] Neat, I just saw kvr14 grab my DVD image. for some reason, it came in over IPv4. I wonder why. [19:31] the host machines are v4 [19:32] That on has a AAAA record. Let's see if I can ping it. [19:33] I can ping it. No PTR record on v6. [19:55] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [20:33] if I placed a pre-order do I also need to do a new order? [20:35] ah I just went ahead and placed an order [20:46] whitefang: yup [20:47] wacker: nice catch, i forgot to add the ptr on v6 [20:48] hmmmm... [20:48] I'm kind of thinking maybe I should have ordered more memory because I want to play with ZFS [20:49] wacker: Na I'm not on IPv6. I'm going to have to use a tunnel service for testing my IPv6 stuff. [20:50] whitefang: Get memory if you can afford it :) [20:50] whitefang: let me know if you want me to cancel the current order, and let you place another [20:51] do I have 15 minutes or so to decide? ^_^ [20:51] i'm provisioning another round of orders now [20:51] whitefang: pm me your email and i'll put it at the bottom of the list, so you can decide :) [20:51] up_the_irons: thanks :) [20:54] *** blovett has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [20:57] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [21:00] Official announcement: VPS accounts on old bandwidth plans can upgrade to current advertised levels for one-time fee of $20 (per VM). Email support if interested. [21:00] up_the_irons: I'll be emailing you tomorrow to upgrade my work account to the new bandwidth plan. just have to get approval, and their CC. [21:01] jpalmer: roger [21:01] so much bandwidth. I'm hard pressed to use much more than 2-3GB a month [21:01] hehe [21:01] we'll see how much traffic a small minecraft server creates though [21:01] I can't imagine more than double that [21:01] *** cubelogic has joined #arpnetworks [21:02] up_the_irons: re: Debian, I was planning on dabbling in BSD for a little longer, as far as the image goes, if you want, you can wipe it out and replace with the image as if it's a new account as long as I can also have the CD mounted as well ;) [21:08] *** cubelogic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:08] up_the_irons: I'll reply to the ticket as such in a moment, replying to a ML atm though [21:09] ok [21:19] up_the_irons: sent & sorry again [21:56] oh snap [21:57] its already got the amd64 kernel isntalled [21:57] so is it the amd64 install iso in the drive right now too? [22:03] ruh roh [22:07] *** ballen has joined #arpnetworks [22:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen [22:10] whitefang: yup [22:10] nice [22:11] does the customer portal take a while to update with the vnc and ssh details for console access? [22:20] whitefang: you received an error due to a new bug, I just fixed it [22:25] thanks. :) I only needed that because I was a moron and got myself locked out of my VPS within 2 minutes of first logging in [22:26] haha [22:35] any reason not to choose canada for country selection on a free install? [22:35] fresh install [22:35] whitefang: no reason [22:38] didn't think so [22:45] cdrom boot failure? ^_^ [22:46] DDevine: If you're on ADSL and have somthing that will do PPP6 and DHCP6 you can do it. [22:46] wacker: I'll have a look, I was just going to get it to my desktop though. [22:47] weird, don't know what that was about but a full reboot fixed it [22:48] whitefang: i've seen that before from time to time [22:50] DDevine: If you get stuck, I should be able to talk you through it. I can be reached on 07 3018 7505. Faktortel is not working for outgoing, but incoming should work. [22:58] * up_the_irons is coding up an SSH key self-management system (for console.cust.arpnetworks.com) [23:00] wacker: internode? [23:01] up_the_irons: in haskell? [23:01] fink: ruby [23:01] fink: oh come on, gotta be ASM :) [23:01] up_the_irons: haaaaaaa [23:03] up_the_irons: just don't tell RandalSchwartz you're not using PERL [23:03] my billing scripts are still in Perl ;) [23:04] Much of the code is unchanged from 1999, when I created them, believe it or not [23:04] that was last century [23:04] no one was alive back then [23:07] haha [23:11] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [23:12] Hey I was born in the 1990s! [23:12] Ruby ain't bad, but I'm a Python man myself [23:13] Ruby is a mess. Python less so :) [23:14] DDevine: there are some horrible aspects of Python too though [23:15] Pfft. I can put up with the faults in Python. [23:20] can I assume my gateway will be the first IP in my block? [23:20] (ipv4) [23:22] whitefang: all IP settings are listed in the Portal (and, yes, you can) [23:23] oh thanks, didn' [23:23] didn't see that there [23:23] np [23:28] *** ballen has quit IRC (Quit: ballen) [23:33] G: yes. I was on the phone with my friend in Melbourne right after the trial was announced about a year ago. We hacked at his Cisco 837 router until we got it working. [23:34] when I was in Australia Internode didn't have any equipment in my exchange [23:35] My friend used Telstra DSLAMS to get to Internode until about four months ago. [23:35] wacker: out of interest, are they using PPPoE or PPPoA? [23:35] PPPOA. [23:35] ooooh nice [23:35] wacker: thanks, that'll be handy for a bit I'm blogging about IPv6 in NZ [23:36] wacker: I'd assumed that they would be PPPoE like TPG (and so would everyone else) [23:36] Cool. Contact me if I can be of any more help. wacker@octothorp.org. [23:37] I was starting to think that ISPs mightn't be able to do IPv6 over PPPoA for some reason [23:37] :P [23:37] Stand by. I'll call Jason to make sure. [23:39] Jason says that you can use either. He uses PPPOA. [23:39] wacker: nice, thanks a lot for that [23:39] I've just become much more hopeful of NZ ISPs offering IPv6 soon ;) [23:40] Do any offer it yet? [23:40]