... well that was odd.
network problems/
?
fink__ is now known as fink_ :)
nope
weird, my vps just went unresponsive for a minute or three, both from here and from the uk.
er... "here" = bc
only thing I was doing was untarring perl.
things look fine over here
yeah I've got nothing useful sorry, didn't think to traceroute.
a question for any openbsd users... is there any tuning to be done? I'm relatively new both to obsd and kvm (so I don't pretend to know which I should be looking at) but I'm unimpressed with the performance. It's been compiling/testing perl for about 45 minutes now.
LOL
hmmm... looks like i will be needing to upgrade my storage soon
hehe
its .50 a gb a month right?
I'm not new to vpses, I know disk performance can suck, but whatever's going on here seems a little above-and-beyond, you know?
jdoe: enable soft updates: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#SoftUpdates
can I remount with that, or will I need to reboot?
jdoe: several tuning things you might want depending on what you're running, no special tuning specifically for kvm beyond 'disable mpbios'
jdoe: toddf is the man to ask about tuning :)
toddf: 99% of the time just irssi. I wasn't aware there was even an issue (things seemed pokey, but I chalked it up to latency/virtualization) until I tried compiling this.
its the soft updates
ya need em with obsd
or else everything takes years
:)
some would say your data is less safe, I'm not convinced, but be aware of what you are doing when you go beyond defaults
jdoe: you can also add "noatime" to fstab
I don't think this is an io issue.
softdeps is what I enable by default also, fwiw
vmstat shows zero io, ~30-50% cpu, and what looks like a monumental number of interrupts (but might not be)
just if you have issues try disabling it as a first stab
toddf: not super worried about them, fbsd has used softupdates as the default for quite a while.
I dunno, it's showing ~130-140k interrupts/s (presumably because perl is testing Benchmark right now, timer interrupts?) ... I don't know what's normal, but that sure sounds high.
building in kvm does take more time than outside
yeah I know.
... 55 minutes now though, that's excessive.
(I was wrong, fyi I meant syscalls not interrupts...)
syscalls and perl regress definately make sense then
syscalls are things like 'open' 'close' 'read' 'write' etc
yeah I was just reading the vmstat man page wrong...
yeah this is insane, I went to lunch and it's still going.
a customer is forcing me to not use any dynamic SQL, only stored procedures for this huge complex report
i think im going to jump off a bridge
I've only half-done it myself, but I don't think it's difficult...
well,  it's the iPhone side of things that I'm not certain of.  I mean,  setting up radius,  and configuring a switch or AP to use it is pretty trivial.
I would imagine you just give the iphone the appropriate credentials.
and that's the end of it.
though I never got that far (and wasn't going to use it with an iphone anyway)
p
p
p: not found
lol
RandalSchwartz: you got on VUC a lot?
What sorta uptime do the VPS' typically get?
i wonder who has the highest uptime here
G,  uptime is a poor indicator of quality.  in fact, its a poor indicator of anything meaningful.  what do you *really* want to know?
my first server:
$ w
 19:43:12 up 463 days, 15:59,  3 users,  load average: 1.17, 1.04, 1.11
cd $home
jpalmer: people that manage to keep their servers up for ages tend to be a good source for stability indicators, I don't normally ask about uptime, and I agree, but yeah
up_the_irons: thanks for that
G,  my VPS has been rock solid,  aside from a bad piece of software I installed (memory leak,  locked it up a couple times before I found the issue)
I like the fact that it's KVM too
(but you can't blame the provider when installing poor software.. hehe)
jpalmer: I normally measure the decency of machine stability by time since last unexpected shutdown :)
G: I restart for freebsd updates
sure,  but machine stability and provider stability aren't quite the same thing.
the provider can be SOLID as hell..  but if your particular setup/configuration is running you out of resources..  it can be pretty unstable.  it's important to not confuse the two.
up_the_irons: "cd $home"?
up_the_irons: "cd" ;)
though if that's one of those muscle memory things, I *totally* understand.
I still catch myself doing cat | grep occasionally...
jdoe: oh that one I do a lot :P
in fact once or twice I've down cat | less
:P
ouch
The Unix Programming Environment actually mentions that "<foo" is used less than "cat foo|", simply because pipes are so much more general.
mike-burns: sounds about right to be
*me
mike-burns: I keep forgetting about using < foo
mike-burns: it's also less intuitive ... we write left to right, [task1] -> [task2] is more natural than [task1] <- [task2]
er
[task2] <- [task1]
haha
up_the_irons: you wouldn't happen to be blocking port 514 on our ubuntu vm would you? :P
can't figure out why my remote logging no longer works