amdprophet: my favorite way to fuck with people of that sort was to crank dns ttls down, connect to irc, then after I was on change my host to resolve to somewhere in the dude's upstream.
... then taunt them.
rofl
yeah, it was pretty funny.
ahhh ipv6 has been pretty stable these past few days
amdprophet lol
how long did you DoS him and how much bandwith
vcs: not sure how long, I started it and then couldn't get back into SSH
lol
woops
yeah, thats usually a bad sign that things are about to go very wrong for you
yup lol
a small ping flood is one thing
maxing out your connection... well
you are asking for trouble
I was young and very stupid
time to release my first android app on the marketplace
Yeay!
What's it called?
it's called "my first android app"
it pops up a "hello world" box :)
Hey the default Eclipse project does that. :p
RandalSchwartz: in perl?
Heh. perl on Android.
mike-burns: was saying he wished Android were more Linux like. I bet he wants to write perl on Android ...
speaking of android
just released my first android app as a public beta
like an hour ago
I think it may be time to sleep soon
mhoran: There's Python on Android
Indeed.
google breathes python though.
I think there's perl too actually
Yeah, but ASE isn't native, and you have nowhere near the integration you get by writing Java.
Even apps written using the NDK (C, C++) don't have integration like Java.
So you're stuck using Java.
Right
N900!
Nice try, Nokia
Maemo was cool like 6 years ago.
I'm buying the palm pre 2... any haters?
mhoran: Actually why is maemo so bad?
Because nobody is developing for it.
And nobody will.
I am :D
Nokie lost their chance to penetrate the US market.
Therefore they'll never succeed.
Android took what little marketshare they had and then took the rest from Apple.
Hehe.. You said penetrate :)
;)
how is maemo / n900 doing in europe?
Not at all I think
I've never seen an n900 - or even heard of it - outside the interwebs
damn :(
looked like a pretty nice phone
not an iphone though :)
I thought that's what he just said.
nesta :)
Hmm.. It's -10 degC outside
That's kind of cold
SUre is.
It's 8 here, which is rather nice.
i go to work with a jacket and beanie now
the AC here is broken
but its fine, its a pleasent 76 in the office
up_the_irons: I go to work on my bike with two pair of socks, two pair of pants, three shirts and a jacket
Gloves and something on my head :P
dxtr: LOL
Sometimes it's -15 degC in the morning :P
It's even cold for a viking
haha
Biking in snow <3
Biking in snow and sidewinds is even better
Uhm, why is clang better than gcc?
Does it optimize better?
The license.
Well, the license didn't seem to bother anyone for like 20 years so I guess it works :P
it was a lesser-of-two-evils thing.
"stupidly licensed compiler" vs "no compiler at all"
mike-burns: does clang compiled down to llvm or something?
Am I stupid for not caring to license the few things I make? :P
I mean, I don't care wtf people do with it
That's my understanding of it, up_the_irons .
ok
dxtr: Not stupid; licensing is a personal choice.
mike-burns: I guess
You are opening it up for someone to legally take your work and claim it's their own.
And frankly I don't care if someone does that :P
I don't even take credit for stuff *I* make
So I guess it's good if someone takes credit for it :P
My latest project btw have exploded in popularity.
I'm estimating that there are up to two users, including me
Like I said, it's for you to decide. If you're fine with that then that's the right license for you.
I'm considering that beer license though. Or the "Do what the fuck you want" license
Can my stuff be considered FOSS then?
sounds like you want the BSD style licenses
But it's so long and tedious
Too much mumbo jumbo in it noone understands anyway
that's besides the point
I want a simple license that kindergarden kids can read and understand that they can do wtf they want with this piece of software and code :p
Not sure if it can be done with today's legalese requirements.
It's not that you have to read ALL of it when looking on what to do, just understand the basic requirements
(imho)
Actually today they are working to make legal texts simpler to read
The BSD license is rather short.
Mainly because not even those who reads the legal texts understands them anymore
So it should be possible
http://www.debian.org/misc/bsd.license - for reference.
tooth: Also, I'm assuming we're not in the same jurisdiction :)
1. Keep the copyright; 2. Keep the copyright; 3. Don't use my name. No warrenty.
mike-burns: To restrictive
Too*
:)
Possibly!
mike-burns: still can't spell warranty after all these years of pasting the BSD license.
holy!   channel was busy..   for a second, I thought I'd flipped to the wrong screen.
mhoran: Sure can't!
perhaps I need to brush up on the licenses.
jpalmer: whut?  this channel is often busy ;)
somewhat,  but I rarely see pages and pages of scrollback.    it was refreshing
ah
possibly simpler than BSD licenses: http://opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
cubelogic: That's awesome
That's ... the same thing.
Slightly shorter :P
It has a less controversial history AFAIK -- BSD v 1 (now obsolete) was heavily criticized at one point
so in my head it's kinda simpler. I do admire the BSD for all the great software that came out of it though
FML
I'll have to redo this :(
At least I don't have to use threads like I initially thought
You could use Artistic 2.0 if you like the BSD license.
the only restriction is that modified versions can't be distributed under the original name
seems fair enough
RandalSchwartz: i'm updating releng now
and artistic 2 was created by modern lawyers, knowing the foibles of other attempts in the area.
... http://www.opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license-2.0.php
actually, it's a bit more precise than that
artistic one said "don't call it Perl if you change it"
artistic 2 requires you to specifically document the differences
or call it something different in a way that doesn't interfere with the standard version
Xen and Haskell combined: http://tinyurl.com/2vpcs2f
will the HaLVM say "sorry dave, I'm afraid I can't do that?"
dxtr: +1 "do whatever the fuck you want with it license"   in fact, i use that on my website for all of my content
not legal in some jurisdictions
best to stuck with approved licenses
I'm impressing the waitress at Standard Rooftop Bar with my knowledge of One Wilshire, which she sees every day but had no idea of the significance
augh - I'm freezing
need to leave because of that
it's 52 out here!
18 here
18 F
?
C
of course
feh - stupid brit measure
how much is it in normal numbers? :)
64
RandalSchwartz: the rest of the world uses C
lol 'normal'
hah - I'm colder
the rest of the world looks up to the dollar
so bloody ha ha
well - at least a few weeks ago they did :)
we *are* losing global dominatiojn
I understand that
:(
ok - time to shift 10 floors
then back on
RandalSchwartz: That waitress is probably just faking.  She'll slip you a mickey and steal your building pass.
RandalSchwartz: she might be a north korean plant
RandalSchwartz: Perl or perl?
RandalSchwartz: it's a trap!
no, just a question. Wikipedia says it was "perl" until "Programming Perl", I'm wondering whether I should be capitalizing it in the middle of a non-title sentence
:P
wasn't it PERL at some point?
backronym
RandalSchwartz: If the "do whatever the fuck you want with it" license isn't legal in some jurisdictions I guess one can simply take out the license and still do whatever the fuck you want with the thing :)
Because, well, that's what the license sayd
saysÄ
*
Anyway
Off to work (It's -15 degC)
anyone else having troubles connecting to AIM?
I think their servers are down
amdprophet, someone else I know was having the same problem - seems like I am still connecte
+d
hey guys what cpu are on the vps?
and you guys are using kvm right?
yea I believe it's kvm
and some beefy quad core xeons
model name      : QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1  (from /proc/cpuinfo)
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1, 2666.90 MHz
cpu0: FPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 255 4KB entries direct-mapped, 255 4MB entries direct-mapped
cpu0: DTLB 255 4KB entries direct-mapped, 255 4MB entries direct-mapped
from OpenBSD dmesg
vapor: just reconnected to aim
upgrading to obsd 4.8... I guess it's still affected by the setting tty flags bug
I assume these instructions are still ok? http://scie.nti.st/2009/10/4/running-openbsd-4-5-in-kvm-on-ubuntu-linux-9-04
does kvm give you vnc/console access?
anything that involves 'disable mpbios' sounds great
it's actually a bios bug in the bios rev used by kvm
vapor: yes
probides a bogus mpbios table for single cpu setups
yes I do have vnc access
(and you're right it's not a openbsd bug :)
just wanted to make sure since that webpage refers to 4.5
yeah, still affected by it, still fixable by that.
cool. worked :)
I forgot about that myself.
Then I rebooted it didn't start. :-\
yeah, that's what happened to me
wow sysmerge completed smoothly