#arpnetworks 2010-11-23,Tue

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dxtrRandalSchwartz: Will I experience much performance loss if I have a 4GB and a 2GB memory stick in my macbook?
Both are DDR3 1066MHz ofcourse
Or doesn't it matter?
I could only afford one memory stick right now (Yes, I'm on a very tight budget :D)
I'm asking you because, well, you seem to know much :D
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dxtrIf any, ofcourse [07:44]
RandalSchwartzI just buy whatever works in my mac. :)
and I'd only be googling for an answer.
I'm not your googlebot :)
might depend on which macbook too
I remember early ones had problems with "imbalanced" memory
but I don't recall that for modern ones
[07:54]
dxtrI didn't ask you to google it, I just thought if you knew about any issues performance-wise on top of your head :) [07:56]
robotarm_upgrading to openbsd 4.8
without vnc i wouldn't have this option
and if openbsd didn't write itself so i could get the bsd.rd from 4.8 through the 4.7 install cd and boot it and install over ftp i wouldn't be able to do it.
[08:06]
vcshehe
im waiting for gary to attatch the 4.8 cd to my VM :)
[08:10]
robotarm_that is a good idea [08:15]
vcsi already loaded up 4.8 at the office
triple nic firewall/gateway with OpenVPN
its running great
[08:16]
robotarm_one of the reasons i run openbsd is that i went to school with a bunch of the maintainers - in Edmonton,AB - bob beck taught me c [08:28]
vcsI run OpenBSD because its free, functional, and secure :) [08:29]
robotarm_i like that they review the code very actively. [08:32]
vcsyes [08:32]
RandalSchwartzI run FreeBSD because it has ZFS on /, a huge ports collection, the PF firewall, and is *not* linux. :) [08:33]
vcshehe
fair enough
[08:33]
jpalmerI run the OS's I run, because they got the job done. ;) [08:33]
mike-burnsI run the OSes I run because I know them. [08:35]
robotarm_I run OSes i run because i would like to know them. [08:40]
finkI run OSes because it's good for my cardio. [08:53]
robotarm_lol [08:58]
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bharatakRandalSchwartz: does freebsd have the concept of boot-image like opensolaris does, so you can run a different snapshot of root on boot?
i've got a home server running opensolaris, but worry about the future
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dxtrShit damn it's cold [09:35]
And.. Wtf is up with the routing to arp today? :( [09:43]
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vcsdxtr its not just arp
my office also
lol
seems to be all kind of routing problems today for me
[09:47]
finkbharatak: you can do this with osx, kind of ;) [09:51]
dxtrvcs: Weird
vcs: Where are you located?
[09:53]
vcshouston texas [09:53]
dxtrNorrköping, Sweden here. So can I safely blame the tates or should I blame North Korea?
states*
[09:56]
vcsnorth korea
:)
[09:57]
dxtrMkay [09:57]
vcsor china, sometimes their BGP servers get messed up [09:58]
dxtrLet's nuke the fuckers [09:58]
vcsand reroute alot of subnets through them
"messed up"
he he
[09:58]
dxtrGah
This is unberable :(
unberaraböe
GAH!
unbearable
[09:58]
vcsvcs is waiting for JDK 1.6 to build on OpenBSD [09:59]
dxtrUhm, my v4 routing to arpnetworks looks awesome
2 hops. Wtf?
[10:00]
vcslol
how is that possible
[10:01]
dxtrSomething is weird. I blame my firewall :P
Anyway, v4 works much better
vcs: Apparently I don't even pass my ISPs gateway
Straight from my router to arp :D
[10:01]
vcshaha
6 to 4
[10:02]
dxtrA really long cable, because it's 184ms delay [10:02]
vcsi imagine hops are not shows when it is in 6 to 4
thats why its only 2 hops
[10:02]
dxtrIt isn't 6 to 4 [10:02]
vcsbetween you and arp?
i seriously doubt it does not go 6 to 4
[10:03]
dxtrI did a regular ipv4 traceroute [10:03]
vcsthere is not much native ipv6 routers
ohhh
ipv4 2 hops also?
lol
[10:03]
dxtrtraceroute6 shows the regular hops [10:03]
plettFrom here in the UK, traceroutes to arp on v4 and v6 both look fine [10:07]
dxtrplett: Well, I'm close to North Korea :P
closer*
[10:07]
plettAnything is possible then :) [10:08]
dxtrYeah [10:08]
bharatakfink: how can you do it with osx? it doesnt have real snapshots [10:08]
finkbharatak: zfs works on osx [10:17]
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bharatakfink: yeah - too bad apple killed it. I always thought apple/sun would be a nice combo [10:43]
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RandalSchwartzsun + apple = snapple :) [11:13]
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BarberRonnysounds like a fizzy soda drink :) [11:44]
fink100% geek refreshment [11:48]
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bharataksnapple has a nice ring to it [13:53]
RandalSchwartzsun + oracle = snorkle. :) [13:54]
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RandalSchwartzactually, sun + oracle = oracle :)
therefore, sun = 0. :)
[13:54]
bharatakah the proof [13:54]
finkRandalSchwartz: more like, snor-acle
snore-acle
[13:54]
RandalSchwartzsun + mysql = sun. therefore mysql = 0 :) [13:55]
bharatakwe're in trouble [13:55]
finkRandalSchwartz: or oracle = ∞
fink wins
[13:55]
wackerThere's always postgresql, and it supports IPv6. [13:56]
finkwacker: but not bz2… [13:56]
RandalSchwartzugh. I didn't read that utf8 properly
what was it?
or that one
[13:56]
finkRandalSchwartz: infinity [13:57]
RandalSchwartzahh [13:57]
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phluxAny staff around..?
I send support a ticket about my VPS being down around 2200 CST
yesterday, that is
Still no response :(
[17:10]
mhoranNope. support@ is your best resource.
Should get back within 48 hours.
[17:11]
phluxsent, rather
That's how I submitted the ticket
[17:12]
mhoranYou could use the support console to boot/reboot/VNC your VM. [17:13]
phluxI can't get into the control panel, because I don't know the user name and password (I've never had to use it) [17:13]
mhoranAh. [17:13]
phluxI can't reset the password because the e-mail on file is on the VPS that's dead [17:13]
mhoranHa! [17:13]
phluxBad situation feels bad :( [17:13]
mhoranSorry, can't help you there ... :/ [17:14]
RandalSchwartztold you to email from a gmail account [17:14]
phluxI did [17:14]
RandalSchwartzand hope you have enough ways to prove it's you [17:14]
phluxBut I haven't gotten any sort of response [17:14]
RandalSchwartzthat was only 18 hours ago, right? [17:14]
phluxRoughly [17:14]
RandalSchwartzyou're probably also getting slapped for not already being self-responsible
as in, why the heck didn't you have your console info?
[17:15]
phluxI never had to use it, as stated previously. [17:15]
RandalSchwartzno excuse [17:15]
finkphlux: :( [17:15]
RandalSchwartzthings break [17:15]
phluxSure it is. [17:15]
RandalSchwartzyou need to know [17:15]
mhoranI've minr [17:15]
RandalSchwartzit's a BAD excuse [17:16]
finkphlux: console is important, in case something bad happens [17:16]
phluxI assumed that if there was any type of maintenance/planned downtime, I'd have received some sort of e-mail discussing the matter. [17:16]
RandalSchwartzfor which you deserve to get at the back of the line [17:16]
mhorantattoo'd to my inner thigh. [17:16]
RandalSchwartzit's probably not a planned downtime
it's probably something broken with your VPS
as in, your side of the fault
[17:16]
phluxI doubt it. [17:16]
finkthere was downtime?
i didn't notice
[17:16]
phluxNothing was being done on the server when it fell. [17:17]
finkmine are up [17:17]
RandalSchwartzas are mine
some flappage yesterday
[17:17]
phluxIt has been running the same services/processes since the day I got it. [17:17]
RandalSchwartzbut in general, things are running
still no excuse for you not to know how to console in
[17:17]
finkphlux: vnc/console are for situations like this [17:17]
phluxStill no excuse for you blaming me. [17:17]
RandalSchwartzthat's the first thing to learn [17:17]
phluxBad day today, Schwartz? [17:18]
RandalSchwartzphlux - I'm not blaming you. I'm saying your behavior is ineffective and inconsistent with being reponsible here. [17:18]
phluxThat's correct, and I'm not arguing that point. [17:18]
RandalSchwartzso please fix your behavior [17:18]
phluxNot once did I say "No, it's ARP's fault that I don't know my console login information" [17:18]
RandalSchwartzyes - but ARP will likely put you at the back of the queue to fix [17:18]
phluxYou're absolutely correct that I should have that information handy. [17:18]
RandalSchwartzsince you're asking them for something that they already gave you [17:18]
phluxI also read that part. [17:19]
RandalSchwartztypical queue is 48 hours
easy requests less
your request, probably more. :)
[17:19]
mhoranHey now, we're all friends here! [17:19]
phluxHeh [17:19]
finkmhoran: just for the record, i've never like you. [17:19]
RandalSchwartzfriend ... or fink? :) [17:20]
fink;)
+d
[17:20]
mhoranup_the_irons is a busy guy but he'll get back to you ASAP. [17:20]
phluxAye, I'm sure he will. [17:20]
mhoranfink: Noted. ;) [17:20]
finkit's kind of stupid when you try to playfully insult people and you can't even spell the insult properly [17:20]
phluxI just hope no one takes Schwartz's attitude as a representation of the company's. [17:20]
RandalSchwartzwhich company? [17:21]
phluxI had also assumed that my login information was the same as the rest of my VPS providers - but I suppose I was incorrect. [17:21]
RandalSchwartzStonehenge? [17:21]
finkphlux: he's cerberus the gatekeeper
bark is worse than his bite, etc
[17:21]
phluxI'd imagine so.
bah, I have an e-mail with the sales receipt >_<
[17:21]
finkphlux: check your junk? [17:24]
amdprophetphlux: did your VPS ever start working? [17:24]
phluxamdprophet: It's been down since around 1800 yesterday
fink: yeah, and my deleted folders
[17:24]
amdprophet:(
you were on kvr10 right/
[17:24]
phluxTo be entirely honest, I'm not sure. [17:25]
amdprophetshould shown in your control panel [17:25]
phluxNever logged in to it, heh [17:26]
amdprophetyou could try restarting your VPS through it [17:26]
RandalSchwartzhe can't access his control panel [17:27]
amdprophetohhhh [17:27]
RandalSchwartzhe forgot to write down his credentials [17:27]
amdprophetgreat :P [17:27]
RandalSchwartzand now he needs garry to do extra work to fix that. [17:27]
finkamdprophet: yea, he's "that guy" ;) [17:27]
phluxYes [17:27]
RandalSchwartzhence - back of the line [17:27]
phluxPlease don't strain yourself clicking the "Reset Password," button. [17:27]
finkphlux: while you're waiting, we're going to tease you a bit [17:27]
amdprophetrofl [17:27]
phluxThat's fine. [17:27]
amdprophetwho was the guy I was talking to yesterday who was on kvr10? [17:28]
phluxSchwartz has some personal vendetta against me that I'm trying to figure out. [17:28]
RandalSchwartzNope. [17:28]
phluxI'm not even sure I've had the pleasure, if one can call it that, of meeting him before this encounter. [17:28]
RandalSchwartzit's not personal
it's your behavior
[17:28]
phluxIt's pretty personal. [17:28]
RandalSchwartzif another guy came in here tomorrow having done the same thing, I'd be ribbing them EXACTLY the same way
so it's not personal in the slightest
[17:28]
phluxBecause you have nothing better to do? [17:29]
finkphlux: i think he has something against the "ph" digraph [17:29]
RandalSchwartzno - because I'm hoping that people are *smarter* than that who use ARP's services
because when they aren't, *my* cost goes up
[17:29]
phluxAh, I see. [17:29]
RandalSchwartzso indirectly, people like you take money out of my pocket. [17:29]
phluxNevermind the fact that I have a career and a family to take care of - my ARP credentials should be my top priority.
I apologize.
[17:29]
RandalSchwartzso you see, it's very much not personal. [17:30]
phluxActually, if you're in the US, I take a lot of money out of your pocket. Your paycheck, to be clear. [17:30]
RandalSchwartzit's about not appreciating the behavior. [17:30]
finkphlux: how do you do that?? [17:30]
phluxI'm in the military. We all pay taxes, so essentially, I pay myself as well ;) [17:31]
RandalSchwartzI think he robs banks
Ahh, a jarhead, wishing to kill people for a living.
Figures. :)
[17:31]
finkRandalSchwartz: he'd forget his keys at home [17:31]
phluxYes, because I carry around weapons. [17:31]
RandalSchwartznow it *is* personal. :) [17:31]
amdprophetrofl [17:31]
phluxI'm in the Coast Guard, you goon.
I'm no "jarhead."
[17:31]
RandalSchwartzyou carry a gun. you defend the coast borders. [17:31]
phluxActually, I don't.
I'm a Pollution Investigator.
[17:31]
finkphlux: do boats have keys? i've always wondered this [17:31]
RandalSchwartzyou're trained to carry a gun. [17:32]
phluxMy rate is Marine Science Technician.
I am not.
I'm not qualified on the pistol or the shotgun.
I have no need to be.
Because again, I don't kill people.
[17:32]
finkphlux: harpoon? [17:32]
amdprophetStop there pollution! *BAM* [17:32]
RandalSchwartzthat's a horrible way to run a branch of the military [17:32]
phluxI respond to oil spills and chemical releases.
What am I going to need a gun for?
[17:32]
finkharpoon! [17:32]
phluxWe have other people in the CG trained for that. [17:32]
finka spear at least? [17:33]
RandalSchwartza pointy stick? [17:33]
phluxA pocket knife, perhaps. [17:33]
amdprophetI want a pointy stick :< [17:33]
finkmaybe phlux's expertise is in losing important emails ;) [17:33]
phluxthis ^ [17:33]
amdprophetLOL [17:34]
finkphlux: out of curiosity, what's on your vps?
webserver?
[17:34]
phluxAn e-mail server, a web server, and a private IRCd. [17:34]
amdprophetMine is filled with lots of por.... websites [17:34]
RandalSchwartz"oh my gawd, it's full of stars!" [17:35]
finkLOL
phlux: OS?
[17:35]
jdoemine's turtles all the way down... [17:36]
amdprophetI'm running 5 VPS's all with Windows, being paid by Microsoft to boost their numbers :) [17:36]
RandalSchwartzmy VPS should be running VMWare Server. :)
then I can resell my machine to others. :)
[17:36]
amdprophetrofl
a VM in a VM
[17:36]
RandalSchwartzopen up rarpnetworks.com :) [17:37]
amdprophetROFL [17:37]
RandalSchwartz"yes - we have reliable machines"
"just look at our provider's uptimes!"
[17:37]
finkamdprophet: now that is funny [17:38]
RandalSchwartzI'd set up my own VNC-within-VNC [17:38]
fink"we need to go deeper" [17:38]
RandalSchwartz"your area is the upper left corner of this other vnc" [17:38]
amdprophetInception, the server provider [17:38]
finkV I R T U A L I Z A T I O N [17:38]
RandalSchwartzarpception.com [17:38]
finknice [17:38]
amdprophetI like [17:38]
RandalSchwartz"everybody gets 256MB of memory"
"and 4G of disk"
"and half an IP"
[17:39]
finkhahha [17:39]
amdprophetfink: I think we've actually got 4 VPS right now, FreeBSD on 3 of them, Ubuntu on the other, we mainly run websites and the ubuntu box is running LDAP & Kerberos [17:39]
RandalSchwartz"we don't oversell our machines"
"(we're overselling our provider)" :)
[17:39]
finkamdprophet: interesting, why ubuntu for kerberos? [17:40]
amdprophetkerberos on freebsd is a scary thing atm
the ports are older than RandalSchwartz
[17:40]
finkdaaaaaamn [17:40]
RandalSchwartzwhy not just run the linux binaries on freebsd? [17:40]
amdprophetcould
but it was easy to set up with ubuntu
we had to set it up on a separate VM anyways due to lack of memory
http://www.aelatis.com is our main site
[17:41]
finkinteresting that kerberos hasn't been supplanted by something newer
amdprophet: cool site
[17:42]
amdprophetthanks [17:42]
I've been with a few server providers, ARP is the best for the money by a long shot
VPSLink blows
The Planet was great for a dedicated server but much too expensive for us
[17:47]
RandalSchwartzyeah
costs kept down because most people can manage their own console :)
[17:48]
amdprophethaha [17:48]
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vcsyeah ARP is great
the only thing they could improve are the ipv6 routes outside of their control :P
[17:51]
RandalSchwartzand that would be magical [17:51]
vcsindeed
mmmm ive been building java all day on my OpenBSD vm
java is a pain on OpenBSD
haha
[17:51]
RandalSchwartzs/ on OpenBSD// [17:53]
vcstrue :)
Im setting up some software where i can stream all of my music from my OpenBSD vm
hook that up to my droid
all my music available from one place
[17:53]
toddfvcs: did I miss the option where unlimited bandwidth was a checkbox? [17:56]
vcs:P
toddf: I have 200 gigs of transfer a month
and unlimited on verizon
[17:56]
toddfI'm pushing 9G of transfer a month with only serving dns [17:56]
vcsi only have 25 gigs of music [17:56]
toddfon my vps [17:56]
vcstoddf: my VM is more for personal stuff [17:56]
amdprophetup_the_irons: you should release an API so we can control our VMs from our phones :p [17:56]
vcsthan hard serving [17:57]
toddfamdprohet: haven't you heard? the API is called HTML [17:57]
amdprophetpssh [17:57]
toddfthe control panel is cleanly written, if it doesn't work on your phone I'd be surprised [17:57]
amdprophetHTML is a lot bulkier than a native app + JSON
not to be picky... ;)
[17:58]
vcsHTML runs on everything [17:58]
toddfare you sure you've looked at the control panel web page source vs a native app time + size? [17:58]
vcsi would rather have it run no matter what
than have it just here and there
[17:58]
amdprophetfrom experience, native apps are a lot faster
assuming the API isn't sending much data
[17:59]
vcsmay be true [17:59]
amdprophetthe phone has to render the page as well, takes time [17:59]
vcsbut then you gota pick favorites
do you support all 200 phone platforms
:P
[17:59]
amdprophetif garry wrote an API then he wouldn't have to worry about writing the mobile apps, that would be up to us
I'd make one for iOS / Android, for sure
release it as OSS too
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vcsiOS development makes me cringe [18:01]
amdprophetwhy
? *
[18:01]
vcsobjective C is ugly, i takes way to much code to do simple things
and development is too restricted
one time i was demoing an app to a potential customer
and my code signing certificate just expired
and it would not load up :X
[18:02]
amdprophetyea, the code signing is complete BS
I agree with you there
[18:02]
vcs:|
im not saying i like android or blackberry or winmo dev more
im just saying that it needs serious improvement
[18:03]
amdprophetbut as far as takes too much to do simple things, I find it easier to work with than java on Android, and that's saying a lot because I'm a big android fan [18:03]
vcsPalm has got it right [18:03]
amdprophetWebOS? [18:03]
vcsyes, android dev is nice in my opinion
especially since there is no code signing mumbo jumbo
[18:03]
amdprophetcan't stand the ADTs though
very buggy
[18:05]
vcshaha, yeah
would be nice to be able to develop in languages like python
would be really nice :)
[18:06]
amdprophetyou can [18:06]
vcsoh really? [18:06]
amdprophetyea they just released some python packaging system
for android
[18:07]
finkamdprophet: really??? [18:07]
amdprophethttp://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/
think that's it
[18:07]
vcssweet
thanks!
ahhh mobile pythong development would make me so happy
python
dammit! lol
[18:09]
amdprophet:p [18:10]
RandalSchwartzpython - that's another WTF.
right there with Java
[18:17]
vcsnah, python is great
i use it everyday at work[18:17] <vcs> maks my life so much easier
NASA and google use it
[18:17]
RandalSchwartztoo bad it was designed by someone who doesn't grok objects
or closures, apparently
or scoping. :)
[18:17]
vcspython is great for small projects
and data processesing
[18:18]
amdprophetI've been looking at playing with python a bit, I'm mainly a Ruby, ObjC, and Java guy atm [18:18]
RandalSchwartztoo bad python doesn't have anything like the CPAN
does it have native regex yet?
[18:19]
amdprophetahhh you're a perl guy :p [18:19]
RandalSchwartzor are those still strings with a flag? [18:19]
vcsi can write a native parser
faster than a regex
lol
regex is overrated
[18:19]
amdprophetregex + nodejs = very fast [18:19]
RandalSchwartzperl6 grammars will put regex to shame [18:20]
vcsperl6 is vaporware
:P
[18:20]
RandalSchwartznot at all
go download rakudo
useable already
just doesn't have the CPAN yet
[18:20]
vcsi do like perl dont get me wrong
but i can code small things in python far faster
[18:20]
RandalSchwartzLuckily, Perl's CPAN makes things that would be bigger than small in Python just small in Perl. :) [18:21]
vcswell there are plenty of extensions for python
hunting thm down is not very hard
[18:22]
RandalSchwartznot as many as Perl though
and Perl's CPAN upload rate increases year over year
[18:22]
vcstrue, i have never not been able to find what i needd tho [18:22]
RandalSchwartzmore people are using Perl today than in 1999 [18:22]
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amdprophetwhat type of mobile phones do people carry here? [18:24]
mjpcarry? *scoff* mine clips very nicely on my belt [18:24]
amdprophet:p [18:25]
RandalSchwartzmine is in my scottevest pocket [18:27]
amdprophetoh man that's awesome
I need to buy me one of those now
[18:27]
RandalSchwartzI have about 15 items of scottevest
currently wearing a shirt, pants, and coat from SeV
sadly, the underware is out of stock :)
[18:28]
amdprophetgahhh so expensive [18:29]
RandalSchwartzexpense is relative
as a frequent traveller, SeV is unmatched
just like my tombihn.com bags
nothing comes close
[18:29]
amdprophetI've been unemployed for 2 years, I can barely afford the VPS atm :p [18:30]
RandalSchwartzwell - then, not for you [18:30]
amdprophetnot that I've been looking for a job... *cough*
trying to get my own business off the ground still
hah, that's a coincidence
an ad on a site that just happens to be for SeV
[18:30]
RandalSchwartzyeah, they're pimping heavy now
especially with the delta controversy
[18:32]
amdprophetROFL
that's ridiculous
so pretty much, don't use Delta airlines
[18:33]
RandalSchwartzno, that's not what it's about
in fact, scott just tweeted he's flying for a week somewhere, using delta :)
but also using the new "carryon coat" that made delta mad at him :)
[18:34]
amdprophetthey won't let passengers wear SeV because it reduces baggage costs [18:35]
RandalSchwartzthat's balls :) [18:35]
amdprophetmy inbox is getting filled with fanmail
feels awesome
[18:38]
RandalSchwartzfans? [18:44]
finkfink wishes he had fans [18:45]
amdprophetyea
we released an iPhone app for halo players last week
hit 3,000 users today, pretty stoked
[18:45]
finkcongrats [18:45]
amdprophetI've been getting email after email saying, "Thanks for releasing this app! It's awesome! Can't believe it's free!"
etc..
[18:46]
RandalSchwartzhalo players have iphones and not windows phones? [18:46]
amdprophetthankfully :p
We've had requests for a windows phone version but more for an Android version
almost done the Android verison
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toddfwindows becoming irrelevent. I likes. [19:38]
amdprophetall but one of my buddies are using macs or linux boxen now
I've got windows on one box for gaming / android dev, my main machines are macs though
[19:39]
toddfwindows for android dev. what are you smoking?
or does google smoke windows to develop for android? seems rather ludicrous considering android is linux.
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finki can honestly say, i've never smoked a window [20:01]
amdprophetLOL
I'm using windows because eclipse died on my mac
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amdprophetand my windows box is the beefiest machine I have
Xeon X3360 @ around 3.0 GHz, 8 GB of DDR2 1066, runs the Android emulator great :)
[20:06]
finkamdprophet: what happened to eclipse/ [20:17]
amdprophetit's just a gray screen when I open it up now
everything disappeared
[20:17]
finkstupid java [20:18]
amdprophetyea :p [20:18]
finkamdprophet: have you heard about a python OS? [20:18]
amdprophetI haven't, no [20:18]
mhoran... I remember the days when my VM was pulling the most traffic on ARP. :) [20:27]
amdprophetold time customer? [20:27]
mhoranIndeed. [20:28]
finkmhoran: how can we tell?
do you have a low uid?
[20:30]
amdprophethe's faking it, it's a conspiracy! [20:31]
mhoranI'm on kvr02. I'm also an op, from the days when all the ops in this channel were also the only arp subscribers. Hence why we're ops. [20:31]
finkmhoran: ah ok, so a low kvr # = seniority
what kvr am i on?
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mhoranWell, I think unused slots get reused. [20:33]
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mhoranYou can find out on the customer portal. [20:34]
amdprophetwe've got a box that we're retiring on kvr04
er VM *
[20:34]
finkmhoran: cool, thanks
i guess my only claim to fame is that i got here before RandalSchwartz
[20:35]
mhorankvr02 is one of the oldest KVM hosts. up_the_irons used to host on Xen, but has migrated most, if not everything, to KVM, hence kvrNN.
I've been trying to finish that sentence since two T stops before getting home, thanks T-mobile, America's least reliable 3G network.
[20:39]
finkis tmobile going to merge w/att? [20:41]
mhoranHey now, let's not start any rumors. [20:41]
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