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dxtr | RandalSchwartz: Will I experience much performance loss if I have a 4GB and a 2GB memory stick in my macbook?
Both are DDR3 1066MHz ofcourse Or doesn't it matter? I could only afford one memory stick right now (Yes, I'm on a very tight budget :D) I'm asking you because, well, you seem to know much :D | [07:34] |
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dxtr | If any, ofcourse | [07:44] |
RandalSchwartz | I just buy whatever works in my mac. :)
and I'd only be googling for an answer. I'm not your googlebot :) might depend on which macbook too I remember early ones had problems with "imbalanced" memory but I don't recall that for modern ones | [07:54] |
dxtr | I didn't ask you to google it, I just thought if you knew about any issues performance-wise on top of your head :) | [07:56] |
robotarm_ | upgrading to openbsd 4.8
without vnc i wouldn't have this option and if openbsd didn't write itself so i could get the bsd.rd from 4.8 through the 4.7 install cd and boot it and install over ftp i wouldn't be able to do it. | [08:06] |
vcs | hehe
im waiting for gary to attatch the 4.8 cd to my VM :) | [08:10] |
robotarm_ | that is a good idea | [08:15] |
vcs | i already loaded up 4.8 at the office
triple nic firewall/gateway with OpenVPN its running great | [08:16] |
robotarm_ | one of the reasons i run openbsd is that i went to school with a bunch of the maintainers - in Edmonton,AB - bob beck taught me c | [08:28] |
vcs | I run OpenBSD because its free, functional, and secure :) | [08:29] |
robotarm_ | i like that they review the code very actively. | [08:32] |
vcs | yes | [08:32] |
RandalSchwartz | I run FreeBSD because it has ZFS on /, a huge ports collection, the PF firewall, and is *not* linux. :) | [08:33] |
vcs | hehe
fair enough | [08:33] |
jpalmer | I run the OS's I run, because they got the job done. ;) | [08:33] |
mike-burns | I run the OSes I run because I know them. | [08:35] |
robotarm_ | I run OSes i run because i would like to know them. | [08:40] |
fink | I run OSes because it's good for my cardio. | [08:53] |
robotarm_ | lol | [08:58] |
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bharatak | RandalSchwartz: does freebsd have the concept of boot-image like opensolaris does, so you can run a different snapshot of root on boot?
i've got a home server running opensolaris, but worry about the future | [09:13] |
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dxtr | Shit damn it's cold | [09:35] |
And.. Wtf is up with the routing to arp today? :( | [09:43] | |
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vcs | dxtr its not just arp
my office also lol seems to be all kind of routing problems today for me | [09:47] |
fink | bharatak: you can do this with osx, kind of ;) | [09:51] |
dxtr | vcs: Weird
vcs: Where are you located? | [09:53] |
vcs | houston texas | [09:53] |
dxtr | Norrköping, Sweden here. So can I safely blame the tates or should I blame North Korea?
states* | [09:56] |
vcs | north korea
:) | [09:57] |
dxtr | Mkay | [09:57] |
vcs | or china, sometimes their BGP servers get messed up | [09:58] |
dxtr | Let's nuke the fuckers | [09:58] |
vcs | and reroute alot of subnets through them
"messed up" he he | [09:58] |
dxtr | Gah
This is unberable :( unberaraböe GAH! unbearable | [09:58] |
vcs | vcs is waiting for JDK 1.6 to build on OpenBSD | [09:59] |
dxtr | Uhm, my v4 routing to arpnetworks looks awesome
2 hops. Wtf? | [10:00] |
vcs | lol
how is that possible | [10:01] |
dxtr | Something is weird. I blame my firewall :P
Anyway, v4 works much better vcs: Apparently I don't even pass my ISPs gateway Straight from my router to arp :D | [10:01] |
vcs | haha
6 to 4 | [10:02] |
dxtr | A really long cable, because it's 184ms delay | [10:02] |
vcs | i imagine hops are not shows when it is in 6 to 4
thats why its only 2 hops | [10:02] |
dxtr | It isn't 6 to 4 | [10:02] |
vcs | between you and arp?
i seriously doubt it does not go 6 to 4 | [10:03] |
dxtr | I did a regular ipv4 traceroute | [10:03] |
vcs | there is not much native ipv6 routers
ohhh ipv4 2 hops also? lol | [10:03] |
dxtr | traceroute6 shows the regular hops | [10:03] |
plett | From here in the UK, traceroutes to arp on v4 and v6 both look fine | [10:07] |
dxtr | plett: Well, I'm close to North Korea :P
closer* | [10:07] |
plett | Anything is possible then :) | [10:08] |
dxtr | Yeah | [10:08] |
bharatak | fink: how can you do it with osx? it doesnt have real snapshots | [10:08] |
fink | bharatak: zfs works on osx | [10:17] |
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bharatak | fink: yeah - too bad apple killed it. I always thought apple/sun would be a nice combo | [10:43] |
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RandalSchwartz | sun + apple = snapple :) | [11:13] |
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BarberRonny | sounds like a fizzy soda drink :) | [11:44] |
fink | 100% geek refreshment | [11:48] |
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bharatak | snapple has a nice ring to it | [13:53] |
RandalSchwartz | sun + oracle = snorkle. :) | [13:54] |
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RandalSchwartz | actually, sun + oracle = oracle :)
therefore, sun = 0. :) | [13:54] |
bharatak | ah the proof | [13:54] |
fink | RandalSchwartz: more like, snor-acle
snore-acle | [13:54] |
RandalSchwartz | sun + mysql = sun. therefore mysql = 0 :) | [13:55] |
bharatak | we're in trouble | [13:55] |
fink | RandalSchwartz: or oracle = ∞
fink wins | [13:55] |
wacker | There's always postgresql, and it supports IPv6. | [13:56] |
fink | wacker: but not bz2… | [13:56] |
RandalSchwartz | ugh. I didn't read that utf8 properly
what was it? or that one | [13:56] |
fink | RandalSchwartz: infinity | [13:57] |
RandalSchwartz | ahh | [13:57] |
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phlux | Any staff around..?
I send support a ticket about my VPS being down around 2200 CST yesterday, that is Still no response :( | [17:10] |
mhoran | Nope. support@ is your best resource.
Should get back within 48 hours. | [17:11] |
phlux | sent, rather
That's how I submitted the ticket | [17:12] |
mhoran | You could use the support console to boot/reboot/VNC your VM. | [17:13] |
phlux | I can't get into the control panel, because I don't know the user name and password (I've never had to use it) | [17:13] |
mhoran | Ah. | [17:13] |
phlux | I can't reset the password because the e-mail on file is on the VPS that's dead | [17:13] |
mhoran | Ha! | [17:13] |
phlux | Bad situation feels bad :( | [17:13] |
mhoran | Sorry, can't help you there ... :/ | [17:14] |
RandalSchwartz | told you to email from a gmail account | [17:14] |
phlux | I did | [17:14] |
RandalSchwartz | and hope you have enough ways to prove it's you | [17:14] |
phlux | But I haven't gotten any sort of response | [17:14] |
RandalSchwartz | that was only 18 hours ago, right? | [17:14] |
phlux | Roughly | [17:14] |
RandalSchwartz | you're probably also getting slapped for not already being self-responsible
as in, why the heck didn't you have your console info? | [17:15] |
phlux | I never had to use it, as stated previously. | [17:15] |
RandalSchwartz | no excuse | [17:15] |
fink | phlux: :( | [17:15] |
RandalSchwartz | things break | [17:15] |
phlux | Sure it is. | [17:15] |
RandalSchwartz | you need to know | [17:15] |
mhoran | I've minr | [17:15] |
RandalSchwartz | it's a BAD excuse | [17:16] |
fink | phlux: console is important, in case something bad happens | [17:16] |
phlux | I assumed that if there was any type of maintenance/planned downtime, I'd have received some sort of e-mail discussing the matter. | [17:16] |
RandalSchwartz | for which you deserve to get at the back of the line | [17:16] |
mhoran | tattoo'd to my inner thigh. | [17:16] |
RandalSchwartz | it's probably not a planned downtime
it's probably something broken with your VPS as in, your side of the fault | [17:16] |
phlux | I doubt it. | [17:16] |
fink | there was downtime?
i didn't notice | [17:16] |
phlux | Nothing was being done on the server when it fell. | [17:17] |
fink | mine are up | [17:17] |
RandalSchwartz | as are mine
some flappage yesterday | [17:17] |
phlux | It has been running the same services/processes since the day I got it. | [17:17] |
RandalSchwartz | but in general, things are running
still no excuse for you not to know how to console in | [17:17] |
fink | phlux: vnc/console are for situations like this | [17:17] |
phlux | Still no excuse for you blaming me. | [17:17] |
RandalSchwartz | that's the first thing to learn | [17:17] |
phlux | Bad day today, Schwartz? | [17:18] |
RandalSchwartz | phlux - I'm not blaming you. I'm saying your behavior is ineffective and inconsistent with being reponsible here. | [17:18] |
phlux | That's correct, and I'm not arguing that point. | [17:18] |
RandalSchwartz | so please fix your behavior | [17:18] |
phlux | Not once did I say "No, it's ARP's fault that I don't know my console login information" | [17:18] |
RandalSchwartz | yes - but ARP will likely put you at the back of the queue to fix | [17:18] |
phlux | You're absolutely correct that I should have that information handy. | [17:18] |
RandalSchwartz | since you're asking them for something that they already gave you | [17:18] |
phlux | I also read that part. | [17:19] |
RandalSchwartz | typical queue is 48 hours
easy requests less your request, probably more. :) | [17:19] |
mhoran | Hey now, we're all friends here! | [17:19] |
phlux | Heh | [17:19] |
fink | mhoran: just for the record, i've never like you. | [17:19] |
RandalSchwartz | friend ... or fink? :) | [17:20] |
fink | ;)
+d | [17:20] |
mhoran | up_the_irons is a busy guy but he'll get back to you ASAP. | [17:20] |
phlux | Aye, I'm sure he will. | [17:20] |
mhoran | fink: Noted. ;) | [17:20] |
fink | it's kind of stupid when you try to playfully insult people and you can't even spell the insult properly | [17:20] |
phlux | I just hope no one takes Schwartz's attitude as a representation of the company's. | [17:20] |
RandalSchwartz | which company? | [17:21] |
phlux | I had also assumed that my login information was the same as the rest of my VPS providers - but I suppose I was incorrect. | [17:21] |
RandalSchwartz | Stonehenge? | [17:21] |
fink | phlux: he's cerberus the gatekeeper
bark is worse than his bite, etc | [17:21] |
phlux | I'd imagine so.
bah, I have an e-mail with the sales receipt >_< | [17:21] |
fink | phlux: check your junk? | [17:24] |
amdprophet | phlux: did your VPS ever start working? | [17:24] |
phlux | amdprophet: It's been down since around 1800 yesterday
fink: yeah, and my deleted folders | [17:24] |
amdprophet | :(
you were on kvr10 right/ | [17:24] |
phlux | To be entirely honest, I'm not sure. | [17:25] |
amdprophet | should shown in your control panel | [17:25] |
phlux | Never logged in to it, heh | [17:26] |
amdprophet | you could try restarting your VPS through it | [17:26] |
RandalSchwartz | he can't access his control panel | [17:27] |
amdprophet | ohhhh | [17:27] |
RandalSchwartz | he forgot to write down his credentials | [17:27] |
amdprophet | great :P | [17:27] |
RandalSchwartz | and now he needs garry to do extra work to fix that. | [17:27] |
fink | amdprophet: yea, he's "that guy" ;) | [17:27] |
phlux | Yes | [17:27] |
RandalSchwartz | hence - back of the line | [17:27] |
phlux | Please don't strain yourself clicking the "Reset Password," button. | [17:27] |
fink | phlux: while you're waiting, we're going to tease you a bit | [17:27] |
amdprophet | rofl | [17:27] |
phlux | That's fine. | [17:27] |
amdprophet | who was the guy I was talking to yesterday who was on kvr10? | [17:28] |
phlux | Schwartz has some personal vendetta against me that I'm trying to figure out. | [17:28] |
RandalSchwartz | Nope. | [17:28] |
phlux | I'm not even sure I've had the pleasure, if one can call it that, of meeting him before this encounter. | [17:28] |
RandalSchwartz | it's not personal
it's your behavior | [17:28] |
phlux | It's pretty personal. | [17:28] |
RandalSchwartz | if another guy came in here tomorrow having done the same thing, I'd be ribbing them EXACTLY the same way
so it's not personal in the slightest | [17:28] |
phlux | Because you have nothing better to do? | [17:29] |
fink | phlux: i think he has something against the "ph" digraph | [17:29] |
RandalSchwartz | no - because I'm hoping that people are *smarter* than that who use ARP's services
because when they aren't, *my* cost goes up | [17:29] |
phlux | Ah, I see. | [17:29] |
RandalSchwartz | so indirectly, people like you take money out of my pocket. | [17:29] |
phlux | Nevermind the fact that I have a career and a family to take care of - my ARP credentials should be my top priority.
I apologize. | [17:29] |
RandalSchwartz | so you see, it's very much not personal. | [17:30] |
phlux | Actually, if you're in the US, I take a lot of money out of your pocket. Your paycheck, to be clear. | [17:30] |
RandalSchwartz | it's about not appreciating the behavior. | [17:30] |
fink | phlux: how do you do that?? | [17:30] |
phlux | I'm in the military. We all pay taxes, so essentially, I pay myself as well ;) | [17:31] |
RandalSchwartz | I think he robs banks
Ahh, a jarhead, wishing to kill people for a living. Figures. :) | [17:31] |
fink | RandalSchwartz: he'd forget his keys at home | [17:31] |
phlux | Yes, because I carry around weapons. | [17:31] |
RandalSchwartz | now it *is* personal. :) | [17:31] |
amdprophet | rofl | [17:31] |
phlux | I'm in the Coast Guard, you goon.
I'm no "jarhead." | [17:31] |
RandalSchwartz | you carry a gun. you defend the coast borders. | [17:31] |
phlux | Actually, I don't.
I'm a Pollution Investigator. | [17:31] |
fink | phlux: do boats have keys? i've always wondered this | [17:31] |
RandalSchwartz | you're trained to carry a gun. | [17:32] |
phlux | My rate is Marine Science Technician.
I am not. I'm not qualified on the pistol or the shotgun. I have no need to be. Because again, I don't kill people. | [17:32] |
fink | phlux: harpoon? | [17:32] |
amdprophet | Stop there pollution! *BAM* | [17:32] |
RandalSchwartz | that's a horrible way to run a branch of the military | [17:32] |
phlux | I respond to oil spills and chemical releases.
What am I going to need a gun for? | [17:32] |
fink | harpoon! | [17:32] |
phlux | We have other people in the CG trained for that. | [17:32] |
fink | a spear at least? | [17:33] |
RandalSchwartz | a pointy stick? | [17:33] |
phlux | A pocket knife, perhaps. | [17:33] |
amdprophet | I want a pointy stick :< | [17:33] |
fink | maybe phlux's expertise is in losing important emails ;) | [17:33] |
phlux | this ^ | [17:33] |
amdprophet | LOL | [17:34] |
fink | phlux: out of curiosity, what's on your vps?
webserver? | [17:34] |
phlux | An e-mail server, a web server, and a private IRCd. | [17:34] |
amdprophet | Mine is filled with lots of por.... websites | [17:34] |
RandalSchwartz | "oh my gawd, it's full of stars!" | [17:35] |
fink | LOL
phlux: OS? | [17:35] |
jdoe | mine's turtles all the way down... | [17:36] |
amdprophet | I'm running 5 VPS's all with Windows, being paid by Microsoft to boost their numbers :) | [17:36] |
RandalSchwartz | my VPS should be running VMWare Server. :)
then I can resell my machine to others. :) | [17:36] |
amdprophet | rofl
a VM in a VM | [17:36] |
RandalSchwartz | open up rarpnetworks.com :) | [17:37] |
amdprophet | ROFL | [17:37] |
RandalSchwartz | "yes - we have reliable machines"
"just look at our provider's uptimes!" | [17:37] |
fink | amdprophet: now that is funny | [17:38] |
RandalSchwartz | I'd set up my own VNC-within-VNC | [17:38] |
fink | "we need to go deeper" | [17:38] |
RandalSchwartz | "your area is the upper left corner of this other vnc" | [17:38] |
amdprophet | Inception, the server provider | [17:38] |
fink | V I R T U A L I Z A T I O N | [17:38] |
RandalSchwartz | arpception.com | [17:38] |
fink | nice | [17:38] |
amdprophet | I like | [17:38] |
RandalSchwartz | "everybody gets 256MB of memory"
"and 4G of disk" "and half an IP" | [17:39] |
fink | hahha | [17:39] |
amdprophet | fink: I think we've actually got 4 VPS right now, FreeBSD on 3 of them, Ubuntu on the other, we mainly run websites and the ubuntu box is running LDAP & Kerberos | [17:39] |
RandalSchwartz | "we don't oversell our machines"
"(we're overselling our provider)" :) | [17:39] |
fink | amdprophet: interesting, why ubuntu for kerberos? | [17:40] |
amdprophet | kerberos on freebsd is a scary thing atm
the ports are older than RandalSchwartz | [17:40] |
fink | daaaaaamn | [17:40] |
RandalSchwartz | why not just run the linux binaries on freebsd? | [17:40] |
amdprophet | could
but it was easy to set up with ubuntu we had to set it up on a separate VM anyways due to lack of memory http://www.aelatis.com is our main site | [17:41] |
fink | interesting that kerberos hasn't been supplanted by something newer
amdprophet: cool site | [17:42] |
amdprophet | thanks | [17:42] |
I've been with a few server providers, ARP is the best for the money by a long shot
VPSLink blows The Planet was great for a dedicated server but much too expensive for us | [17:47] | |
RandalSchwartz | yeah
costs kept down because most people can manage their own console :) | [17:48] |
amdprophet | haha | [17:48] |
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vcs | yeah ARP is great
the only thing they could improve are the ipv6 routes outside of their control :P | [17:51] |
RandalSchwartz | and that would be magical | [17:51] |
vcs | indeed
mmmm ive been building java all day on my OpenBSD vm java is a pain on OpenBSD haha | [17:51] |
RandalSchwartz | s/ on OpenBSD// | [17:53] |
vcs | true :)
Im setting up some software where i can stream all of my music from my OpenBSD vm hook that up to my droid all my music available from one place | [17:53] |
toddf | vcs: did I miss the option where unlimited bandwidth was a checkbox? | [17:56] |
vcs | :P
toddf: I have 200 gigs of transfer a month and unlimited on verizon | [17:56] |
toddf | I'm pushing 9G of transfer a month with only serving dns | [17:56] |
vcs | i only have 25 gigs of music | [17:56] |
toddf | on my vps | [17:56] |
vcs | toddf: my VM is more for personal stuff | [17:56] |
amdprophet | up_the_irons: you should release an API so we can control our VMs from our phones :p | [17:56] |
vcs | than hard serving | [17:57] |
toddf | amdprohet: haven't you heard? the API is called HTML | [17:57] |
amdprophet | pssh | [17:57] |
toddf | the control panel is cleanly written, if it doesn't work on your phone I'd be surprised | [17:57] |
amdprophet | HTML is a lot bulkier than a native app + JSON
not to be picky... ;) | [17:58] |
vcs | HTML runs on everything | [17:58] |
toddf | are you sure you've looked at the control panel web page source vs a native app time + size? | [17:58] |
vcs | i would rather have it run no matter what
than have it just here and there | [17:58] |
amdprophet | from experience, native apps are a lot faster
assuming the API isn't sending much data | [17:59] |
vcs | may be true | [17:59] |
amdprophet | the phone has to render the page as well, takes time | [17:59] |
vcs | but then you gota pick favorites
do you support all 200 phone platforms :P | [17:59] |
amdprophet | if garry wrote an API then he wouldn't have to worry about writing the mobile apps, that would be up to us
I'd make one for iOS / Android, for sure release it as OSS too | [18:00] |
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vcs | iOS development makes me cringe | [18:01] |
amdprophet | why
? * | [18:01] |
vcs | objective C is ugly, i takes way to much code to do simple things
and development is too restricted one time i was demoing an app to a potential customer and my code signing certificate just expired and it would not load up :X | [18:02] |
amdprophet | yea, the code signing is complete BS
I agree with you there | [18:02] |
vcs | :|
im not saying i like android or blackberry or winmo dev more im just saying that it needs serious improvement | [18:03] |
amdprophet | but as far as takes too much to do simple things, I find it easier to work with than java on Android, and that's saying a lot because I'm a big android fan | [18:03] |
vcs | Palm has got it right | [18:03] |
amdprophet | WebOS? | [18:03] |
vcs | yes, android dev is nice in my opinion
especially since there is no code signing mumbo jumbo | [18:03] |
amdprophet | can't stand the ADTs though
very buggy | [18:05] |
vcs | haha, yeah
would be nice to be able to develop in languages like python would be really nice :) | [18:06] |
amdprophet | you can | [18:06] |
vcs | oh really? | [18:06] |
amdprophet | yea they just released some python packaging system
for android | [18:07] |
fink | amdprophet: really??? | [18:07] |
amdprophet | http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/
think that's it | [18:07] |
vcs | sweet
thanks! ahhh mobile pythong development would make me so happy python dammit! lol | [18:09] |
amdprophet | :p | [18:10] |
RandalSchwartz | python - that's another WTF.
right there with Java | [18:17] |
vcs | nah, python is great
i use it everyday at work[18:17] <vcs> maks my life so much easier NASA and google use it | [18:17] |
RandalSchwartz | too bad it was designed by someone who doesn't grok objects
or closures, apparently or scoping. :) | [18:17] |
vcs | python is great for small projects
and data processesing | [18:18] |
amdprophet | I've been looking at playing with python a bit, I'm mainly a Ruby, ObjC, and Java guy atm | [18:18] |
RandalSchwartz | too bad python doesn't have anything like the CPAN
does it have native regex yet? | [18:19] |
amdprophet | ahhh you're a perl guy :p | [18:19] |
RandalSchwartz | or are those still strings with a flag? | [18:19] |
vcs | i can write a native parser
faster than a regex lol regex is overrated | [18:19] |
amdprophet | regex + nodejs = very fast | [18:19] |
RandalSchwartz | perl6 grammars will put regex to shame | [18:20] |
vcs | perl6 is vaporware
:P | [18:20] |
RandalSchwartz | not at all
go download rakudo useable already just doesn't have the CPAN yet | [18:20] |
vcs | i do like perl dont get me wrong
but i can code small things in python far faster | [18:20] |
RandalSchwartz | Luckily, Perl's CPAN makes things that would be bigger than small in Python just small in Perl. :) | [18:21] |
vcs | well there are plenty of extensions for python
hunting thm down is not very hard | [18:22] |
RandalSchwartz | not as many as Perl though
and Perl's CPAN upload rate increases year over year | [18:22] |
vcs | true, i have never not been able to find what i needd tho | [18:22] |
RandalSchwartz | more people are using Perl today than in 1999 | [18:22] |
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amdprophet | what type of mobile phones do people carry here? | [18:24] |
mjp | carry? *scoff* mine clips very nicely on my belt | [18:24] |
amdprophet | :p | [18:25] |
RandalSchwartz | mine is in my scottevest pocket | [18:27] |
amdprophet | oh man that's awesome
I need to buy me one of those now | [18:27] |
RandalSchwartz | I have about 15 items of scottevest
currently wearing a shirt, pants, and coat from SeV sadly, the underware is out of stock :) | [18:28] |
amdprophet | gahhh so expensive | [18:29] |
RandalSchwartz | expense is relative
as a frequent traveller, SeV is unmatched just like my tombihn.com bags nothing comes close | [18:29] |
amdprophet | I've been unemployed for 2 years, I can barely afford the VPS atm :p | [18:30] |
RandalSchwartz | well - then, not for you | [18:30] |
amdprophet | not that I've been looking for a job... *cough*
trying to get my own business off the ground still hah, that's a coincidence an ad on a site that just happens to be for SeV | [18:30] |
RandalSchwartz | yeah, they're pimping heavy now
especially with the delta controversy | [18:32] |
amdprophet | ROFL
that's ridiculous so pretty much, don't use Delta airlines | [18:33] |
RandalSchwartz | no, that's not what it's about
in fact, scott just tweeted he's flying for a week somewhere, using delta :) but also using the new "carryon coat" that made delta mad at him :) | [18:34] |
amdprophet | they won't let passengers wear SeV because it reduces baggage costs | [18:35] |
RandalSchwartz | that's balls :) | [18:35] |
amdprophet | my inbox is getting filled with fanmail
feels awesome | [18:38] |
RandalSchwartz | fans? | [18:44] |
fink | fink wishes he had fans | [18:45] |
amdprophet | yea
we released an iPhone app for halo players last week hit 3,000 users today, pretty stoked | [18:45] |
fink | congrats | [18:45] |
amdprophet | I've been getting email after email saying, "Thanks for releasing this app! It's awesome! Can't believe it's free!"
etc.. | [18:46] |
RandalSchwartz | halo players have iphones and not windows phones? | [18:46] |
amdprophet | thankfully :p
We've had requests for a windows phone version but more for an Android version almost done the Android verison | [18:46] |
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toddf | windows becoming irrelevent. I likes. | [19:38] |
amdprophet | all but one of my buddies are using macs or linux boxen now
I've got windows on one box for gaming / android dev, my main machines are macs though | [19:39] |
toddf | windows for android dev. what are you smoking?
or does google smoke windows to develop for android? seems rather ludicrous considering android is linux. | [19:51] |
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fink | i can honestly say, i've never smoked a window | [20:01] |
amdprophet | LOL
I'm using windows because eclipse died on my mac | [20:06] |
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amdprophet | and my windows box is the beefiest machine I have
Xeon X3360 @ around 3.0 GHz, 8 GB of DDR2 1066, runs the Android emulator great :) | [20:06] |
fink | amdprophet: what happened to eclipse/ | [20:17] |
amdprophet | it's just a gray screen when I open it up now
everything disappeared | [20:17] |
fink | stupid java | [20:18] |
amdprophet | yea :p | [20:18] |
fink | amdprophet: have you heard about a python OS? | [20:18] |
amdprophet | I haven't, no | [20:18] |
mhoran | ... I remember the days when my VM was pulling the most traffic on ARP. :) | [20:27] |
amdprophet | old time customer? | [20:27] |
mhoran | Indeed. | [20:28] |
fink | mhoran: how can we tell?
do you have a low uid? | [20:30] |
amdprophet | he's faking it, it's a conspiracy! | [20:31] |
mhoran | I'm on kvr02. I'm also an op, from the days when all the ops in this channel were also the only arp subscribers. Hence why we're ops. | [20:31] |
fink | mhoran: ah ok, so a low kvr # = seniority
what kvr am i on? | [20:32] |
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mhoran | Well, I think unused slots get reused. | [20:33] |
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mhoran | You can find out on the customer portal. | [20:34] |
amdprophet | we've got a box that we're retiring on kvr04
er VM * | [20:34] |
fink | mhoran: cool, thanks
i guess my only claim to fame is that i got here before RandalSchwartz | [20:35] |
mhoran | kvr02 is one of the oldest KVM hosts. up_the_irons used to host on Xen, but has migrated most, if not everything, to KVM, hence kvrNN.
I've been trying to finish that sentence since two T stops before getting home, thanks T-mobile, America's least reliable 3G network. | [20:39] |
fink | is tmobile going to merge w/att? | [20:41] |
mhoran | Hey now, let's not start any rumors. | [20:41] |
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