nesta: heh
tooth: so basically you get a better deal if you quit and come back?
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ww: up_the_irons: /me would prefer double the disc to double the bandwidth :)
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andrewnemeth: hi guys
anybody around?:)
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RandalSchwartz: new fbsd security announce
local exploit
only if you use procfs etc
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vcs: heh
i can only find info about a 10 year old jail escape exploit
link?
BarberRonny: it was announced today
got it by email on the security list
RandalSchwartz: what's a 10 year old doing in a jail?
BarberRonny: oh probably a jail where i live
last months headlines in the paper : "5 year old rapist convicted"
lol.. big typo!
vcs: lol
fyi
http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-00:77.procfs.asc
Announced: 2000-12-18
Topic: Several vulnerabilities in procfs [REVISED]
BarberRonny: there WAS a mailing going out today
about a fs vulnerability
maybe they email before putting it on the web?
better get subscribed toe the list :)
-e
vcs: well
i dont run any freebsd boxes so
there are rarely vulns that affect my OpenBSD boxes :X
i spend most of my security efforts locking down linux boxes
another perk of OpenBSD ;)
BarberRonny: yeah fixing linux boxes is why i changed to freebsd
it serves pretty well
coobra: can i get it cheaper if i buy 1year ?
BarberRonny: i wonder how many people work for ARPnetworks... because im abroad often i have a backups server in europa which costs alot, i want to get rid of it... like some kind of safety in case of troubles.
fink: BarberRonny: go for it
ziyourenxiang: so... big OSX security patch... my office windows laptop rebooted itself earlier having been patched remotely by corporate guys, another freebsd patch... busy months for blackhats.
but freebsd-update fetch says nothing.
coobra: :o
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vcs: haha
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-: vcs sleeps easy since most of his servers are OpenBSD
vcs: :X
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up_the_irons: nesta: tooth : I was thinking of doing something like, pay a one-time "upgrade" fee (say $20), and you'll get the new plan for life
obviously canceling and coming back is more work on everyone's part ;)
tooth: or set up a new account and copy thi8ngs over
:-)
up_the_irons: tooth: yeah, both ways, more work for everyone ;)
jdoe: RandalSchwartz: not profs, pseudofs
proc, even
(... though reading the advisory, procfs uses pseudofs. Oops)
RandalSchwartz: I saw procfs in one of the reports
yeah, like that :)
jdoe: also in the default config (at least on 8.1 amd64) it's 'just' a DoS
assuming you have one of those filesystems mounted.
... so that's not so bad either. Phew.
RandalSchwartz: still - I'm running 8.0 on two of my four VPS... time to upgrade
jdoe: just out of curiosity, what's security.bsd.map_at_zero for you?
(on 8.0)
RandalSchwartz: ... security.bsd.map_at_zero: 0
jdoe: guess it's just a DoS for you too
wonder when they added that...
RandalSchwartz: I also don't have any hostile local users
jdoe: just root ;)
hrm. freebsd-update doesn't seem to think I have anything to do yet.
oh wait, 8.1 isn't affected.
guess I need to learn to read.
... and neither are your 8.0 installs unless they're still running an RC
RandalSchwartz: FreeBSD red.stonehenge.com 8.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 25 20:54:11 UTC 2010 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
p-3
-p3
which has its own problems
I knew I was going to update to 8.1 "soon"
jdoe: gotcha.
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Sh4rma: hi
anyone runs KVM?
qemu-kvm to helpme to configure tap0
RandalSchwartz: you mean kvm inside our vps?
vcs: that simply wont work
up_the_irons: Sh4rma: maybe try #kvm ?
we run KVM, but we're not a support service for it
vcs: i seriously doubt you can access the right registers
within a VPS
Sh4rma: yes I try but nobody know how can help me
I've gentoo/kvm/qemu, and I've ovh machine and I like how works arpnetworks (I've two VPS)
vcs: this is not the channel for KVM support
Sh4rma: I've two network iface eth0 with public IP and eth1 without config
I know, and I only ask if anyone can helpme to configure as arpnetwork
RandalSchwartz: "as"?
you're asking how to avoid using an arpnetwork VPS on an arpnetwork support channel
this seems ballsey
vcs: check the man pages and google
Sh4rma: not, I'm ARPnetwork user and I like to get similar env
..
ok thanks
nesta: np!
RandalSchwartz: the word "not" in that sentence doesn't make sense
since you're exactly echoing what I said you *are* doing
evidenced by your word "similar" meaning "not the original, but something like it"
but, you're probably not watching this channel now. :)
nesta: passive-aggressive
RandalSchwartz: It's like walking into a Ford plant, and saying "hey, ford, I'd like to build a car very similar to what you make!"
you gotta expect some hostility
"can you tell me how you get that nice smooth ride?" :)
"can I look at some blueprints? make a copy maybe?"
up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: My line is always: "If you want free help, ask Google. If you want my professional help, I charge $150 USD / hr. for consulting"
vcs: :P
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vapor: lol
what the hell
Th:14:43|<Sh4rma> I know, and I only ask if anyone can helpme to configure as arpnetwork
win
RandalSchwartz: yeah - see my "Ford factory" analogy later
up_the_irons: wow, almost 60 people in here; it took a while to go from 40 -> 50, and now we're finally reaching 60
RandalSchwartz: people or bots. :)
and for some of us, you can't exactly tell
up_the_irons: yup
vcs: less bots on freenode
than say, EFNet
nesta: 98% of efnet is bots
lol
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vcs: yeah
#bots
dferris: arpnetworks is 2 x the vps as rootbsd for the same price, nice
vcs: also the ipv6 /48 block is nice
RandalSchwartz: o/~ bots the way, uh huh uh huh... I like it... uh huh uh huh o/~
vcs: as well as the endless OS choices
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up_the_irons: dferris: and we've just doubled the bandwidth allocation for all plans
vcs: its a good time to be an arp networks customer :P
mhoran: Yee-haw!
up_the_irons: LOL
RandalSchwartz: hmm. arpnetworks.com is responding slowly (or not at all)
-: mhoran wonders what he's going to do with all this bandwidth.
RandalSchwartz: o/~ whatcha gonna do with all those bytes... all those bytes inside your pipes... o/~
mhoran: Haha.
mike-burns: Ha.
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awyeah: sup.
Wow my connection to the VPS is slow
10 373 ms 554 ms 524 ms 63.218.42.130
that's where it's happening dernit
RandalSchwartz: when I'm at work, the ping time to my VPS is 1.5 ms :)
from my laptop at my desk
fink: ~180ms here, from east coast
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fink: but i think about 100ms of those 180ms is this 3G connection
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