[00:18] <nesta> what about the rest of us?
[00:18] <nesta> heh
[00:23] <tooth> so basically you get a better deal if you quit and come back?
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[06:23] <ww> up_the_irons: /me would prefer double the disc to double the bandwidth :)
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[06:31] <andrewnemeth> hi guys
[06:31] <andrewnemeth> anybody around?:)
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[09:20] <RandalSchwartz> new fbsd security announce
[09:20] <RandalSchwartz> local exploit
[09:20] <RandalSchwartz> only if you use procfs etc
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[09:24] <vcs> heh
[09:24] <vcs> i can only find info about a 10 year old jail escape exploit
[09:24] <vcs> link?
[09:25] <BarberRonny> it was announced today
[09:25] <BarberRonny> got it by email on the security list
[09:25] <RandalSchwartz> what's a 10 year old doing in a jail?
[09:25] <BarberRonny> oh probably a jail where i live
[09:26] <BarberRonny> last months headlines in the paper : "5 year old rapist convicted"
[09:26] <BarberRonny> lol.. big typo!
[09:27] <vcs> lol
[09:27] <vcs> fyi
[09:27] <vcs> http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-00:77.procfs.asc
[09:27] <vcs> Announced:      2000-12-18
[09:27] <vcs> Topic:          Several vulnerabilities in procfs [REVISED]
[09:28] <BarberRonny> there WAS a mailing going out today
[09:28] <BarberRonny> about a fs vulnerability
[09:29] <BarberRonny> maybe they email before putting it on the web?
[09:29] <BarberRonny> better get subscribed toe the list :)
[09:29] <BarberRonny> -e
[09:31] <vcs> well
[09:31] <vcs> i dont run any freebsd boxes so
[09:31] <vcs> there are rarely vulns that affect my OpenBSD boxes :X
[09:32] <vcs> i spend most of my security efforts locking down linux boxes
[09:32] <vcs> another perk of OpenBSD ;)
[09:34] <BarberRonny> yeah fixing linux boxes is why i changed to freebsd
[09:34] <BarberRonny> it serves pretty well
[09:35] <coobra> can i get it cheaper if i buy 1year ?
[09:37] <BarberRonny> i wonder how many people work for ARPnetworks... because im abroad often i have a backups server in europa which costs alot, i want to get rid of it... like some kind of safety in case of troubles.
[09:37] <fink> BarberRonny: go for it
[09:37] <ziyourenxiang> so... big OSX security patch... my office windows laptop rebooted itself earlier having been patched remotely by corporate guys, another freebsd patch... busy months for blackhats.
[09:37] <ziyourenxiang> but freebsd-update fetch says nothing.
[09:38] <coobra> :o
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[09:42] <vcs> haha
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[09:42] * vcs sleeps easy since most of his servers are OpenBSD
[09:42] <vcs> :X
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[10:55] <up_the_irons> nesta: tooth : I was thinking of doing something like, pay a one-time "upgrade" fee (say $20), and you'll get the new plan for life
[10:55] <up_the_irons> obviously canceling and coming back is more work on everyone's part ;)
[10:58] <tooth> or set up a new account and copy thi8ngs over
[10:58] <tooth> :-)
[10:58] <up_the_irons> tooth: yeah, both ways, more work for everyone ;)
[11:10] <jdoe> RandalSchwartz: not profs, pseudofs
[11:10] <jdoe> proc, even
[11:11] <jdoe> (... though reading the advisory, procfs uses pseudofs. Oops)
[11:11] <RandalSchwartz> I saw procfs in one of the reports
[11:11] <RandalSchwartz> yeah, like that :)
[11:12] <jdoe> also in the default config (at least on 8.1 amd64) it's 'just' a DoS
[11:12] <jdoe> assuming you have one of those filesystems mounted.
[11:12] <jdoe> ... so that's not so bad either. Phew.
[11:12] <RandalSchwartz> still - I'm running 8.0 on two of my four VPS... time to upgrade
[11:13] <jdoe> just out of curiosity, what's security.bsd.map_at_zero for you?
[11:13] <jdoe> (on 8.0)
[11:13] <RandalSchwartz> ... security.bsd.map_at_zero: 0
[11:14] <jdoe> guess it's just a DoS for you too
[11:14] <jdoe> wonder when they added that...
[11:14] <RandalSchwartz> I also don't have any hostile local users
[11:15] <jdoe> just root ;)
[11:15] <jdoe> hrm. freebsd-update doesn't seem to think I have anything to do yet.
[11:15] <jdoe> oh wait, 8.1 isn't affected.
[11:15] <jdoe> guess I need to learn to read.
[11:15] <jdoe> ... and neither are your 8.0 installs unless they're still running an RC
[11:16] <RandalSchwartz> FreeBSD red.stonehenge.com 8.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 25 20:54:11 UTC 2010     root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
[11:16] <RandalSchwartz> p-3
[11:16] <RandalSchwartz> -p3
[11:16] <RandalSchwartz> which has its own problems
[11:16] <RandalSchwartz> I knew I was going to update to 8.1 "soon"
[11:17] <jdoe> gotcha.
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[11:39] <Sh4rma> hi
[11:39] <Sh4rma> anyone runs KVM?
[11:40] <Sh4rma> qemu-kvm to helpme to configure tap0
[11:40] <RandalSchwartz> you mean kvm inside our vps?
[11:40] <vcs> that simply wont work
[11:40] <up_the_irons> Sh4rma: maybe try #kvm ?
[11:40] <up_the_irons> we run KVM, but we're not a support service for it
[11:40] <vcs> i seriously doubt you can access the right registers
[11:40] <vcs> within a VPS
[11:41] <Sh4rma> yes I try but nobody know how can help me
[11:41] <Sh4rma> I've gentoo/kvm/qemu, and I've ovh machine and I like how works arpnetworks (I've two VPS)
[11:42] <vcs> this is not the channel for KVM support
[11:42] <Sh4rma> I've two network iface eth0 with public IP and eth1 without config
[11:42] <Sh4rma> I know, and I only ask if anyone can helpme to configure as arpnetwork
[11:42] <RandalSchwartz> "as"?
[11:43] <RandalSchwartz> you're asking how to avoid using an arpnetwork VPS on an arpnetwork support channel
[11:43] <RandalSchwartz> this seems ballsey
[11:43] <vcs> check the man pages and google
[11:43] <Sh4rma> not, I'm ARPnetwork user and I like to get similar env
[11:43] <Sh4rma> ..
[11:44] <Sh4rma> ok thanks
[11:44] <nesta> np!
[11:45] <RandalSchwartz> the word "not" in that sentence doesn't make sense
[11:45] <RandalSchwartz> since you're exactly echoing what I said you *are* doing
[11:46] <RandalSchwartz> evidenced by your word "similar" meaning "not the original, but something like it"
[11:47] <RandalSchwartz> but, you're probably not watching this channel now. :)
[11:47] <nesta> passive-aggressive
[11:47] <RandalSchwartz> It's like walking into a Ford plant, and saying "hey, ford, I'd like to build a car very similar to what you make!"
[11:47] <RandalSchwartz> you gotta expect some hostility
[11:48] <RandalSchwartz> "can you tell me how you get that nice smooth ride?" :)
[11:48] <RandalSchwartz> "can I look at some blueprints?  make a copy maybe?"
[11:56] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: My line is always: "If you want free help, ask Google.  If you want my professional help, I charge $150 USD / hr. for consulting"
[11:56] <vcs> :P
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[12:33] <vapor> lol
[12:33] <vapor> what the hell
[12:33] <vapor> Th:14:43|<Sh4rma> I know, and I only ask if anyone can helpme to configure as arpnetwork
[12:33] <vapor> win
[12:37] <RandalSchwartz> yeah - see my "Ford factory" analogy later
[12:40] <up_the_irons> wow, almost 60 people in here; it took a while to go from 40 -> 50, and now we're finally reaching 60
[12:40] <RandalSchwartz> people or bots. :)
[12:41] <RandalSchwartz> and for some of us, you can't exactly tell
[12:41] <up_the_irons> yup
[12:41] <vcs> less bots on freenode
[12:41] <vcs> than say, EFNet
[12:45] <nesta> 98% of efnet is bots
[12:45] <nesta> lol
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[12:48] <vcs> yeah
[12:48] <vcs> #bots
[12:51] <dferris> arpnetworks is 2 x the vps as rootbsd for the same price, nice
[12:52] <vcs> also the ipv6 /48 block is nice
[12:52] <RandalSchwartz> o/~ bots the way, uh huh uh huh... I like it... uh huh uh huh o/~
[12:52] <vcs> as well as the endless OS choices
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[13:20] <up_the_irons> dferris: and we've just doubled the bandwidth allocation for all plans
[13:22] <vcs> its a good time to be an arp networks customer :P
[13:22] <mhoran> Yee-haw!
[13:22] <up_the_irons> LOL
[13:22] <RandalSchwartz> hmm.  arpnetworks.com is responding slowly (or not at all)
[13:22] * mhoran wonders what he's going to do with all this bandwidth.
[13:22] <RandalSchwartz> o/~ whatcha gonna do with all those bytes... all those bytes inside your pipes... o/~
[13:23] <mhoran> Haha.
[13:40] <mike-burns> Ha.
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[17:03] <awyeah> sup.
[17:39] <awyeah> Wow my connection to the VPS is slow
[17:39] <awyeah>  10   373 ms   554 ms   524 ms  63.218.42.130
[17:39] <awyeah> that's where it's happening dernit
[17:52] <RandalSchwartz> when I'm at work, the ping time to my VPS is 1.5 ms :)
[17:52] <RandalSchwartz> from my laptop at my desk
[17:53] <fink> ~180ms here, from east coast
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[17:53] <fink> but i think about 100ms of those 180ms is this 3G connection
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