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[09:48] <cpet> Do you need any other info for international orders ?
[10:16] <cpet> Take the silence as a no. Some require photo ID which I find to be a violation of privacy but any who will wait for any requests.
[10:37] <dxtr> cpet: Wtf?
[10:37] <dxtr> Photo ID?
[10:38] <dxtr> And no, they don't need any special information from my experience. I'm in Sweden.
[10:46] <cpet> dxtr: yeap ;/
[10:55] <cpet> I asked so I scan all that now instead of in 24 hrs
[11:02] <up_the_irons> cpet: if the order looks suspicious, I may ask for photo ID, but usually orders look fine
[11:02] <up_the_irons> cpet: did you place your order already?
[11:02] <dxtr> up_the_irons: So you didn't notice my fake identity and stolen credit card? Awesome :)
[11:02] <up_the_irons> dxtr: no chargebacks yet ;)
[11:02] <dxtr> Hehe
[11:05] <cpet> up_the_irons: yes
[11:05] <cpet> up_the_irons: if you deal with it now would be appreciated if not I can wait the 24 hrs :)
[11:05] <cpet> you/you can*
[11:06] <up_the_irons> cpet: yeah, I can't do it now, but it'll be done within 24 hours
[11:10] <cpet> Had to ask :)
[11:11] <up_the_irons> :)
[11:11] <cpet> can work on this port in the mean time
[11:15] <dxtr> up_the_irons: Put your DNS servers on IPv6!
[11:15] <dxtr> Also, you did have an NTP server, right?
[11:16] <cpet> time.nist.gov
[11:17] <up_the_irons> dxtr: no NTP.  Yes, IPv6 DNS is coming soon
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[11:43] <dxtr> Hmm, do anyone here know of any company or store like www.system76.com but in Europe?
[11:45] <cpet> system76 makes custom computers ?
[11:45] <dxtr> Yep
[11:45] <cpet> rediculosuly expensive computers ?
[11:45] <cpet> heh
[11:45] <dxtr> I think they're cheap
[11:46] <cpet> I build my own machines, but never cared much for liquid cooling
[11:46] <dxtr> I'm not really into laptop building
[11:46] <cpet> not much into laptops :P
[11:46] <dxtr> I only use laptops
[11:47] <mike-burns> I know of no System76 competitors, sorry.
[11:48] <cpet> i barely have a cel phone :P
[11:48] <dxtr> mike-burns: I wouldn't say it's a competitor as System76 doesn't ship to europe ;)
[11:51] <mike-burns> Heh, fair enough.
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[12:24] <cpet> /usr/ports/distfiles/libupnp-1.6.8/upnp/src/inc
[12:25] <cpet> woops
[12:27] <dxtr> :D
[12:30] <vcs> it would be cool to be able to order a pizza from command line
[12:30] <tooth> someone did that.
[12:30] <tooth> wrote a CL front end for the pizza hut web order thinger
[12:31] <vcs> haha nice
[12:31] <tooth> hook it up to cron and you'd have timed deliveries.
[12:31] <vcs> haha
[12:32] <vcs> would be cool if alot of places offered some sort of protocool for ordering pizza
[12:32] <vcs> or anything
[12:32] <vcs> that can be delivered
[12:32] <cpet> so people no longer walk to buy a pizza?
[12:32] <toddf> just wait, in a future android phone interaction with google presence awareness, they'll have a bio sensor hooked up to notice you're getting hungry and have a pizza delivered to your location about the time you're thinking its time to get food
[12:33] <vcs> lol
[12:34] <tooth> "you're getting hungry. next left is your favourite sushi joint, and $Friend is nearby, we've sent them a text already"
[12:34] <vcs> lol
[12:34] <vcs> mmm sushi
[12:35] <vcs> now we just need some way to convert energy into matter
[12:35] <vcs> star trek style meals
[12:36] <toddf> somehow nanotech is going to take a while to assemble that burger
[12:37] <vcs> mailorder russian brides are a thing of the past
[12:41] <mike-burns> Oh toddf that's a great idae for an Android app.
[12:41] <vcs> the app would cause me to drain my bank account
[12:42] <vcs> haha
[12:42] <toddf> make it more generic, N900 is also a loonix platform
[12:42] <mike-burns> Well I run the Boston Android group so I'll probably make it as an Android app.
[12:42] <toddf> vcs: obviously there would be paramters about what criteria under which to order food ..
[12:43] <mike-burns> Pizza, every time.
[12:43] <vcs> i could eat sushi 3 meals a day, everyday
[12:44] <toddf> it would be an adventure if a generic api for recurring needs were introduced in the marketplace; then the fridge could stay stocked for those that prefer not takeout and disks would order themselves if a raid array had a bad one, etc
[12:44] <tooth> don;'t they already
[12:45] <toddf> there is an open api anyone can talk to (vendors, customers, software writers, etc) ?
[12:45] <tooth> (i work in a datacentre) customer had a netapp or something that emailed the manufacturer and they shipped a drive automatically to us.
[12:45] <toddf> 'emailed the manufacturer'
[12:46] <vcs> so if the SMART status showed bad
[12:46] <tooth> well, somehow contacted them. they're colo, so I have no idea the specifics
[12:46] <toddf> so it is hardcoded to 'echo $drive failed send replacement | mail -s "order for $drive" $manufactureremail'
[12:46] <vcs> haha
[12:46] <tooth> basically drive failed, and a new one showed up automagically.
[12:47] <toddf> I'd prefer for there to be 'echo order $drive | api -price -ship $drive'
[12:47] <toddf> what netapp has is vendor lockin
[12:48] <toddf> at least dell's semi recent acquisition of their iscsi san toy can email a configurable location, but it is still human interaction required
[12:49] <vcs> heh
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[16:36] <cpet> ;/
[16:59] <mjp> meh
[17:00] <cpet> ah so you are here
[17:01] <mjp> yep, great vps so far. i lowered my kern.hz to be a bit nicer
[17:02] <mjp> && rmuser arpnetworks
[17:03] <cpet> ah running on the edge eh?
[17:05] <cpet> still waiting for mine to be setup
[17:05] <cpet> :(
[17:11] <mjp> yep haha
[17:11] <mjp> i still have not had time to do much with mine
[17:12] <mjp> i have a couple of jails setup there with v4/v6 IPs locked down to them with apaache/mysql etc.
[17:13] <cpet> since I am too lazy to switch over all my shizzle
[17:14] <cpet> I will use this vps as a fail over for the other one
[17:14] <cpet> end of issues
[17:15] <cpet> hrm and my 3ware card just shar itself heh
[17:15] <cpet> shat*
[17:21] <fink> mjp: apache is not great on memory usage
[17:21] <fink> have you looked at lighthttpd, nginx, or my favorite, cherokee?
[17:23] <mjp> nope, not really constrained on memory so no need thus far :)
[17:23] <mike-burns> Cherokee and nginx are both pretty sweet.
[17:26] <cpet> hiawatha!
[17:27] <cpet> the issue with using those is the messing with rewrites
[17:27] <cpet> a large CMS will have 100's of rewrites which is a pain to redo in another web server ;/
[17:28] <mike-burns> The most popular reason I hear of for sticking with Apache is learning another conf language.
[17:28] <jpalmer> thats one of the reasons I stick with apache.
[17:28] <jpalmer> the others are: it's stable as hell,  and does everything I need it to do.
[17:28] <mike-burns> Yeah but everything else does that too.
[17:29] <jpalmer> sure,  at a new learning curve.
[17:29] <mike-burns> Right.
[17:29] <cpet> I loved hiawatha I was the one who enabled support for it with tinderbox :)
[17:29] <mike-burns> I run nginx on mine. I only need Rails and static HTML so it handles that fine.
[17:29] <cpet> but does not work well with a CMS with a lot of rewrites if you are lazy like me
[17:29] <mike-burns> Yeah.
[17:30] <cpet> and thats libxul updated
[18:11] <fink> apache is difficult on a vps with limited ram
[18:12] <cpet> depends on how you set it up
[18:51] <cpet> welp im out
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[19:01] <mhoran> Eh. It's fine with prefork. :)
[19:01] <mhoran> Er. Worker.
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