just want to say... freebsd vps seems very solid! evening ww: no local ntp servers, sorry up_the_irons: ok, thanks... for future reference, these are probably good choices for the us west coast: server usno.pa-x.dec.com iburst maxpoll 9 server clock.isc.org iburst maxpoll 9 server tick.usnogps.navy.mil iburst maxpoll 9 server tock.usnogps.navy.mil iburst maxpoll 9 ww: or you could use the 'pool.ntp.org" public NTP servers jpalmer: they're scattered all over... generally want low jitter and predictable latency for a good clock splitting hairs though... ww: ntp accounts for latency and jitter by using multiple samples. ww: clock.fmt.he.net, clock.sjc.he.net are pretty good for us too. Bonus points to the fmt one for being ipv6 :-p tinono: funny, ntpdate uses the v4 address... oh have to give it -6 also timekeeper.isi.edu is good... anyhow, plenty of ntp servers now... thanks jpalmer: yes, but the less estimating ntp has to do the better ww: as long as all of those servers you are using don't require letting the host operator know (or, if you have let them know) it should be fine. for all intents and purposes though, the pool.ntp.org timeservers were created specifically due to this. If you need to be super accurate, I guess it makes sense to use stratum 2 timeservers. up_the_irons: any chance of getting the rdns sorted today? ww: yeah, i'll clear all tickets before the end of the day brilliant! thanks np! jpalmer: actually, should remove the .navy.mil ones... the others are properly public... figures up_the_irons: I was wondering if kvm instances can be modified on request. Say I'd like an ne2k_pci nic instead of the e1000 one, is that something you can do easily? tinono: What difference would ne2k_pci make vs. e1000? it would work with netbsd. (and still work everywhere else supposedly) jpalmer: lol tinono: yes, i can do that for you ahh! support tickets on their way :-p RandalSchwartz: what ticket from oct 2? I don't see any older than 24 hours at this point about putting 8.1 in all my trays or maybe you did it but didn't let me know. :) RandalSchwartz: i did it, and replied. maybe Tender lost the emails, bah oof Yeah, I didn't see a reply so apparently, you can do that without messing up the live VM. :) Hmm. had I known, I would have done the 8.1 ugrade last weekend... I guess I'll get to try it this week instead. in any event, thanks. now the work is on my plate again. 70 minutes until takeoff 40 more here in the sky club RandalSchwartz: for the change to take effect, you just need to completely shutdown the VM (halt -p), then boot it from Portal or SSH console ok RandalSchwartz: where ya going? back towards my home, at least for another week. :) this is my last trip "home" though, because I'll become homeless during the next trip my stuff is being sold off, most of the precious bits are now in a 10x15 storage the last time I flew out of LAX, I was taking a red-eye that was oversold. they put me up in a hotel, and got me on a plane the next morning. I was in no hurry, so I volunteered. I'm out of SAN towards SLC then PDX spent the weekend down here after the two weeks of work in LA the company i work for sends me to LA occasionally for cedars-sinai and huntington memorial drank a big pile of tequila at the annual Tijuana Tequila Fest and believe me... piling up tequila is hard. :) he heh damn, my 16 channel DVR (surveilance system) just died. it doesn't power the HD's now. Hmm... It's cold 1C And I'm taking the bike to work in a couple of hours. Hooray! 33C here... and it's 7.15PM!!!!! i wish i were where you are Haha I'm king of longing for snow right now For some reason GIEF SNOW I was 21 when I got to see and feel snow for the first time after years of seeing it on tv I wasn't disapointed :-p Oh lawd I see and feel snow a couple of months every year Daily yeah, many people do Do you know what sucks with snow? tell me You get lots of it during the winter, "YAY!" But then it gets dirty so you get black snow all over the roads and stuff And then what happens? It melts oh yeah And when it melts it isn't dry Making this wet.. Something :) Can't even walk without having your feet soaked :P the closest we ever got to snow here was this particular day, we all woke up to a stunning 17C But as long as it stays under 0C it's cool the country stopped. schools remained closed What? people were going crazy ... for 17C? yeah they realize people freeze to death in some parts of the world? that's like 10C less than the worst we ever knew Thing is 17C isn't even cold to be honnest, there was crazy fog all over the island at that point Where do you live? Africa? no in Martinique Caribbean Oh when it's 24, we close everything and wear sweatshirts how crazy is that... Haha When it's 24 we open everything and do anything to cool down Our consumption of liquids rise to the sky now that I've lived in colder countries for a while I find this place strange. I see my sister wearing huge clothing, while I'm remaining topless. Haha it's 28C for christ's sake! you know... Hehe Take her to Scandinavia she'd die, right there. :-p hehe Do it now and she won't feel the worst cold I seriously can't grasp the concept of having more than 30C during the days I'd die .. Good night just rain and wind and sleet... almost never goes below zero but feels worse than a montreal winter whats going on ipv6 is down of course noone is here Sweet. Now I can connect to my VPN and route all traffic through it, and this hotel can't see sh*t. ipv6 is down? yeah Seems like it is. I can't 'ping6 ipv6.google.com' anyway it's late I need to get to sleep i wasnt lieing man :P Best advice... email support@ I guess. I don't know how else to get ahold of them. Nite! nini hmmm is ipv6 down? yes :( sup spits its sundial i know sup man your server at arp too? mhm OpenBSD oh you have more then one spoiled= ;x i have a lunix box in linode that i do web hosting with only now OpenBSD is mainly IRC you gave me a shell on your linode box tho yeah im about to move everyone to OpenBSD dont man i dont want another arp box lol i have like 10 already everyone is on arp its annoying linux is too insecure to be giving my friends shells especially when it goes down like today lol yeah but i run 2 wraith bots man its not like i even access it yeah lol true if not for me do it for the bots !! everyon is with arp because arp is ahead of the game (ipv6) lol yeah but its been really unstable the last couple months this is the first problem i have had but ive only been with em less than a month linode only gives 2 ips :( not much to work with lol eah yeah i have a /24 subnet for ipv4, but i use it mainly for work irc and work dont mix lol traceroute6 to ipv6.l.google.com (2001:4860:8011::68) from 2607:f2f8:a5c0::13, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 2607:f2f8:a5e0::1 0.533 ms 0.48 ms 0.498 ms 2 2607:f2f8:a5e0::1 0.601 ms !N 0.528 ms !N 0.527 ms !N spits if we got some people together we could get a dedicated but i dont know if that would be big enough for everyone also not everyone trusts eachother yeah i like paying 10 bux a month for a vps lol im paying 30, but i may move off of linode completely not sure yet depends if a couple people decide to throw me money for hosting well are you using arp for work? nope irc, and probobly some web hosting if i ever move off of linode that is :X i dont want to pay the 20$ extra a month do you know the command to remove an ip off ifconfig on OpenBSD, it would be ifconfig -inet6 Ipaddress o ya or -inet for ipv4 thanks well that does it, i think i will move off of linode i could get some dank sushi for 20$ extra a month lol lol linode is better man but whatever its stable yeah and priced well but feature wise its lacking everyone and their mother has arp and it goes down cuz of ddos and shit well, i dont know of any better solution besides dedicated servers maybe I will collocate a box in a few months, I dunno find another vps provider then problem is spits getting ipv6 with collocation, its harder not that ipv4 addresses are really expensive, but its becoming a pain to get a good number are you on efnet? not atm join #ossim and inquire how much a vps from them would be its freebsd heh, im to paranoid to run FreeBSD well cmon man you want it for irc but u wanna use openbsd openbsd isnt really friendly for irc for the users its fine how is it not friendly for irc its extremely hard to hack yeah isnt it hard to login i've never used openbsd and its extremely stable, with a ports tree and package manager i dont know anyone that runs openbsd its not hard to use at all and i've been on efnet for like 15 years i've literally never known anyone to use it i have never met someone who ran OpenBSD and has been hacked that has to mean something my point lol OpenBSD is not rocket science man its a great stable, easily configurabl OS and extremely scure and no one offers it besides Arp really im so pissed fuck can't irc no ipv6 lol there is this thing called ipv4 it works i have ipv4 blocked o how do you connect? ipv6 newb you have ipv6 at home? ipv4 is blocked from irc omg you r teh newb lol ;P isetup a tunnel with tunnelbroker i can get ipv6 i think but it wont get on irc either http://www.technotheologian.us/2009/07/ipv6-with-u-verse-and-router/ nice, i can get ipv6 at home Does anyone know about any problems with IPv6 at the LA colo? My host is at 2607:f2f8:2340::2 I can't get anywhere. join the club OK, as long as it's known about. i didnt exactly report it tho i figured someone else would I don't do well with web ticketing systems. you just send an email to support@arpnetworks.com Will do. Done. sweet Mike-burns: I like your originating address. We're back! From Comcast to GBLX to ARPNetworks. How I wish that the ARPNetworks router would respond better on a traceroute. Stars are nasty.