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[10:12] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [12:25] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [12:30] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:36] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [12:41] evening [12:45] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:47] *** tinono has joined #arpnetworks [12:53] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [13:28] ww: no local ntp servers, sorry [13:48] up_the_irons: ok, thanks... [13:48] for future reference, these are probably good choices for the us west coast: [13:48] server usno.pa-x.dec.com iburst maxpoll 9 [13:48] server clock.isc.org iburst maxpoll 9 [13:49] server tick.usnogps.navy.mil iburst maxpoll 9 [13:49] server tock.usnogps.navy.mil iburst maxpoll 9 [13:50] ww: or you could use the 'pool.ntp.org" public NTP servers [13:50] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:51] jpalmer: they're scattered all over... generally want low jitter and predictable latency for a good clock [13:52] splitting hairs though... [13:52] ww: ntp accounts for latency and jitter by using multiple samples. [13:53] ww: clock.fmt.he.net, clock.sjc.he.net are pretty good for us too. Bonus points to the fmt one for being ipv6 :-p [13:55] tinono: funny, ntpdate uses the v4 address... [13:56] oh have to give it -6 [13:56] also timekeeper.isi.edu is good... anyhow, plenty of ntp servers now... thanks [13:58] jpalmer: yes, but the less estimating ntp has to do the better [14:00] ww: as long as all of those servers you are using don't require letting the host operator know (or, if you have let them know) it should be fine. for all intents and purposes though, the pool.ntp.org timeservers were created specifically due to this. If you need to be super accurate, I guess it makes sense to use stratum 2 timeservers. [14:02] up_the_irons: any chance of getting the rdns sorted today? [14:02] ww: yeah, i'll clear all tickets before the end of the day [14:03] brilliant! thanks [14:03] np! [14:05] *** baklava has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [14:05] *** jdoe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [14:05] *** jdoe has joined #arpnetworks [14:06] jpalmer: actually, should remove the .navy.mil ones... the others are properly public... figures [14:07] *** tinono has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:07] *** tinono has joined #arpnetworks [14:08] * jpalmer logs in and creates a bunch of bogus tickets so up_the_irons feels like he accomplished WAY more work today :P [14:10] up_the_irons: I was wondering if kvm instances can be modified on request. Say I'd like an ne2k_pci nic instead of the e1000 one, is that something you can do easily? [14:29] tinono: What difference would ne2k_pci make vs. e1000? [14:29] it would work with netbsd. (and still work everywhere else supposedly) [14:29] jpalmer: lol [14:30] tinono: yes, i can do that for you [14:30] ahh! support tickets on their way :-p [14:48] * RandalSchwartz wonders if his ticket from oct 2 will ever get done [14:58] RandalSchwartz: what ticket from oct 2? I don't see any older than 24 hours at this point [14:58] about putting 8.1 in all my trays [15:00] or maybe you did it but didn't let me know. :) [15:04] RandalSchwartz: i did it, and replied. maybe Tender lost the emails, bah [15:10] oof [15:10] Yeah, I didn't see a reply [15:10] so apparently, you can do that without messing up the live VM. :) [15:12] Hmm. had I known, I would have done the 8.1 ugrade last weekend... I guess I'll get to try it this week instead. [15:14] in any event, thanks. now the work is on my plate again. [15:16] 70 minutes until takeoff [15:16] 40 more here in the sky club [15:17] RandalSchwartz: for the change to take effect, you just need to completely shutdown the VM (halt -p), then boot it from Portal or SSH console [15:17] ok [15:17] RandalSchwartz: where ya going? [15:17] back towards my home, at least for another week. :) [15:17] this is my last trip "home" though, because I'll become homeless during the next trip [15:18] my stuff is being sold off, most of the precious bits are now in a 10x15 storage [15:18] the last time I flew out of LAX, I was taking a red-eye that was oversold. they put me up in a hotel, and got me on a plane the next morning. I was in no hurry, so I volunteered. [15:18] I'm out of SAN towards SLC then PDX [15:19] spent the weekend down here after the two weeks of work in LA [15:19] the company i work for sends me to LA occasionally for cedars-sinai and huntington memorial [15:19] drank a big pile of tequila at the annual Tijuana Tequila Fest [15:19] and believe me... piling up tequila is hard. :) [15:20] he [15:20] heh [15:28] damn, my 16 channel DVR (surveilance system) just died. it doesn't power the HD's now. [16:14] Hmm... It's cold [16:14] 1C [16:14] And I'm taking the bike to work in a couple of hours. Hooray! [16:15] 33C here... and it's 7.15PM!!!!! [16:15] i wish i were where you are [16:15] Haha [16:16] I'm king of longing for snow right now [16:16] For some reason [16:16] GIEF SNOW [16:16] I was 21 when I got to see and feel snow for the first time [16:16] after years of seeing it on tv [16:16] I wasn't disapointed :-p [16:17] Oh lawd [16:17] I see and feel snow a couple of months every year [16:17] Daily [16:17] yeah, many people do [16:17] Do you know what sucks with snow? [16:17] tell me [16:17] You get lots of it during the winter, "YAY!" [16:18] But then it gets dirty so you get black snow all over the roads and stuff [16:18] And then what happens? It melts [16:18] oh yeah [16:18] And when it melts it isn't dry [16:18] Making this wet.. Something [16:18] :) [16:18] Can't even walk without having your feet soaked :P [16:19] the closest we ever got to snow here was this particular day, we all woke up to a stunning 17C [16:19] But as long as it stays under 0C it's cool [16:19] the country stopped. schools remained closed [16:19] What? [16:19] people were going crazy [16:20] ... for 17C? [16:20] yeah [16:20] they realize people freeze to death in some parts of the world? [16:20] that's like 10C less than the worst we ever knew [16:20] Thing is 17C isn't even cold [16:20] to be honnest, there was crazy fog all over the island at that point [16:21] Where do you live? [16:21] Africa? [16:21] no [16:21] in Martinique [16:21] Caribbean [16:21] Oh [16:22] when it's 24, we close everything and wear sweatshirts [16:22] how crazy is that... [16:22] Haha [16:22] When it's 24 we open everything and do anything to cool down [16:23] Our consumption of liquids rise to the sky [16:23] now that I've lived in colder countries for a while [16:24] I find this place strange. I see my sister wearing huge clothing, while I'm remaining topless. [16:24] Haha [16:24] it's 28C for christ's sake! [16:24] you know... [16:24] Hehe [16:25] Take her to Scandinavia [16:25] she'd die, right there. :-p [16:25] hehe [16:25] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3) [16:25] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [16:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [16:26] Do it now and she won't feel the worst cold [16:27] I seriously can't grasp the concept of having more than 30C during the days [16:27] I'd die [16:27] *** tinono has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:27] .. [16:32] Good night [16:34] * ww wishes we got snow here... [16:34] just rain and wind and sleet... [16:35] almost never goes below zero but feels worse than a montreal winter [17:09] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [18:09] *** tinono has joined #arpnetworks [18:27] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [18:31] *** tinono has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [18:39] *** Dougy_ is now known as Dougy [18:39] *** Dougy has quit IRC (Changing host) [18:39] *** Dougy has joined #arpnetworks [19:27] *** tuv_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [19:28] *** tuv has joined #arpnetworks [20:40] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [21:17] *** tuv_ has joined #arpnetworks [21:20] *** tuv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:22] *** tuv_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:23] *** nukeAFK has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:23] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:25] *** Guest53302 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:26] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:26] *** vcs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:26] *** awyeah_ has joined #arpnetworks [21:26] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:26] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:26] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:27] *** Tadaka has joined #arpnetworks [21:35] *** spits has joined #arpnetworks [21:36] whats going on [21:43] ipv6 is down [21:51] *** awyeah_ is now known as awyeah [21:51] of course noone is here [21:52] Sweet. Now I can connect to my VPN and route all traffic through it, and this hotel can't see sh*t. [21:52] ipv6 is down? [21:52] yeah [21:52] Seems like it is. I can't 'ping6 ipv6.google.com' [21:53] anyway it's late I need to get to sleep [21:53] i wasnt lieing man [21:53] :P [21:53] Best advice... email support@ I guess. I don't know how else to get ahold of them. [21:53] Nite! [21:53] nini [22:24] *** vcs has joined #arpnetworks [22:24] hmmm is ipv6 down? [22:25] yes [22:25] :( [22:25] sup spits [22:25] its sundial [22:25] i know [22:25] sup man [22:25] your server at arp too? [22:25] mhm [22:25] OpenBSD [22:25] oh [22:25] you have more then one [22:25] spoiled= [22:25] ;x [22:25] i have a lunix box in linode that i do web hosting with only now [22:25] OpenBSD is mainly IRC [22:25] you gave me a shell on your linode box [22:26] tho [22:26] yeah [22:26] im about to move everyone to OpenBSD [22:26] dont man [22:26] i dont want another arp box [22:26] lol [22:26] i have like 10 already [22:27] everyone is on arp [22:27] its annoying [22:27] linux is too insecure to be giving my friends shells [22:27] especially when it goes down like today [22:27] lol [22:27] yeah but [22:27] i run 2 wraith bots man [22:27] its not like i even access it [22:27] yeah lol true [22:27] if not for me [22:27] do it for the bots [22:27] !! [22:27] everyon is with arp because arp is ahead of the game (ipv6) [22:27] lol [22:27] yeah but [22:28] its been really unstable the last couple months [22:28] this is the first problem i have had [22:28] but ive only been with em less than a month [22:28] linode only gives 2 ips :( [22:29] not much to work with [22:29] lol [22:29] eah [22:29] yeah [22:29] i have a /24 subnet for ipv4, but i use it mainly for work [22:29] irc and work dont mix [22:30] lol [22:30] traceroute6 to ipv6.l.google.com (2001:4860:8011::68) from 2607:f2f8:a5c0::13, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets [22:30] 1 2607:f2f8:a5e0::1 0.533 ms 0.48 ms 0.498 ms [22:30] 2 2607:f2f8:a5e0::1 0.601 ms !N 0.528 ms !N 0.527 ms !N [22:31] spits if we got some people together we could get a dedicated [22:31] but i dont know if that would be big enough for everyone [22:32] also not everyone trusts eachother [22:33] yeah [22:33] i like paying 10 bux [22:33] a month [22:33] for a vps [22:33] lol [22:34] im paying 30, but i may move off of linode completely [22:34] not sure yet [22:34] depends if a couple people decide to throw me money for hosting [22:35] well [22:35] are you using arp for work? [22:35] nope [22:36] irc, and probobly some web hosting [22:36] if i ever move off of linode that is :X [22:36] i dont want to pay the 20$ extra a month [22:37] do you know the command to remove an ip off ifconfig [22:37] on OpenBSD, it would be ifconfig -inet6 Ipaddress [22:37] o ya [22:37] or -inet for ipv4 [22:37] thanks [22:38] *** Tadaka has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) [22:38] well that does it, i think i will move off of linode [22:38] i could get some dank sushi for 20$ extra a month [22:39] lol [22:39] lol [22:39] linode is better man but whatever [22:39] its stable yeah and priced well [22:39] but feature wise its lacking [22:39] everyone and their mother has arp and it goes down cuz of ddos and shit [22:40] well, i dont know of any better solution besides dedicated servers [22:40] maybe I will collocate a box in a few months, I dunno [22:40] find another vps provider then [22:41] problem is spits getting ipv6 [22:41] with collocation, its harder [22:41] not that ipv4 addresses are really expensive, but its becoming a pain to get a good number [22:41] are you on efnet? [22:41] not atm [22:41] join #ossim and inquire how much a vps from them would be [22:41] its freebsd [22:42] heh, im to paranoid to run FreeBSD [22:42] well cmon man [22:42] you want it for irc [22:42] but u wanna use openbsd [22:42] openbsd isnt really friendly [22:42] for irc [22:42] for the users its fine [22:42] how is it not friendly for irc [22:42] its extremely hard to hack [22:43] yeah isnt it hard to login [22:43] i've never used openbsd [22:43] and its extremely stable, with a ports tree and package manager [22:43] i dont know anyone that runs openbsd [22:43] its not hard to use at all [22:43] and i've been on efnet for like 15 years [22:43] i've literally never known anyone to use it [22:43] i have never met someone who ran OpenBSD and has been hacked [22:43] that has to mean something [22:43] my point [22:44] lol OpenBSD is not rocket science man [22:44] its a great stable, easily configurabl OS [22:44] and extremely scure [22:47] and no one offers it besides Arp really [22:47] im so pissed [22:47] fuck [22:47] can't irc [22:47] no ipv6 [22:47] lol [22:48] there is this thing called ipv4 [22:48] it works [22:49] i have ipv4 blocked [22:49] o [22:49] how do you connect? [22:49] ipv6 [22:49] newb [22:49] you have ipv6 at home? [22:49] ipv4 is blocked from irc [22:49] omg [22:49] you r teh newb [22:49] lol [22:49] ;P [22:49] isetup a tunnel with tunnelbroker [22:49] i can get ipv6 i think [22:49] but it wont get on irc either [22:50] http://www.technotheologian.us/2009/07/ipv6-with-u-verse-and-router/ [22:50] nice, i can get ipv6 at home [22:57] *** wacker has joined #arpnetworks [23:01] Does anyone know about any problems with IPv6 at the LA colo? My host is at 2607:f2f8:2340::2 I can't get anywhere. [23:01] join the club [23:03] OK, as long as it's known about. [23:03] *** vcs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [23:04] *** vcs has joined #arpnetworks [23:05] i didnt exactly report it tho [23:05] i figured someone else would [23:06] I don't do well with web ticketing systems. [23:07] you just send an email to support@arpnetworks.com [23:07] Will do. [23:07] *** tuv has joined #arpnetworks [23:07] *** vcs has quit IRC (Client Quit) [23:11] Done. [23:11] sweet [23:17] *** vcs has joined #arpnetworks [23:28] *** spits has quit IRC (Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20100708) - www.ircN.org) [23:28] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [23:28] *** phlux is now known as Guest85322 [23:28] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [23:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [23:29] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [23:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [23:30] Mike-burns: I like your originating address. We're back! [23:32] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [23:33] From Comcast to GBLX to ARPNetworks. How I wish that the ARPNetworks router would respond better on a traceroute. [23:33] Stars are nasty. [23:42] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [23:49] *** wacker has quit IRC (Quit: 73 all!)