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[03:45] <mattx86> hm.. did anyone else mention not being able to log in to VNC on kvr13 recently?
[03:48] <mattx86> I get "connected" but no screen (and depending on the vnc viewer, no password prompt..)
[03:48] <mattx86> I suppose I should hard shutdown
[03:51] <mattx86> that got it ..
[03:52] <toddf> vnc -> tcp connect direct to the userland kvm process, so .. if kvm has issues serving tcp, then that will suffer
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[05:08] <toddf> 'hard shutdown' -> kill kvm process, then 'boot' -> 'start kvm process'
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[06:33] <mattx86> toddf: yeah
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[07:20] <tinono> ARP what did you do to me?! I've been using OpenBSD for a few weeks, and here I am now stting in front of a debian box and thinking.... "Damn... Linux sucks..."
[07:20] <tinono> :(
[07:21] <mattx86> do you mean you lost your openbsd install? :(
[07:21] <tinono> nope
[07:22] <mattx86> you converted to using debian then? :P
[07:22] <tinono> but I had to use this debian box for someone
[07:22] <mattx86> ah
[07:22] <tinono> my vpses are still kicking obsd :-p
[07:22] <mattx86> :)
[07:23] <tinono> what I mean is after years of only linux, I realise now that it's a little messy
[07:23] <tinono> maybe 'sucks' is an over reaction though
[07:23] <mattx86> yeah, I definitely like how organized things are (in general) on the BSDs
[07:41] <toddf> tinono: it should follow that things are organized and uniform in projects where all things are controlled in one place by one set of developers... ;-)
[07:42] <bharatak> greets - is there a way to change the VNC password? I couldnt see how
[07:42] <bharatak> and yes, OpenBSD makes much more sense
[07:43] <toddf> not presently, support@ ticket to bump the priority of changeable passwords across the board .. I suspect it will eventually happen, just subject to up_the_irons time etc ;-)
[07:43] <bharatak> ok
[07:45] <bharatak> i'm actually glad to finally get a decently priced bsd server
[07:45] <bharatak> i'm migrating off linux now
[07:46] <toddf> I looked around for a while, there are some places that are slightly cheaper by a few pennies but nothing beats the remote access and instareboot capabilities
[07:46] <bharatak> yes, i dig the remote vnc console
[07:46] * bharatak has been known to hose a firewall config or three
[07:54] <toddf> serial console also..
[08:01] <bharatak> i havent tried that yet
[08:01] <bharatak> but the host is running linux kvm right? do you have any idea how it handels when memory is tight?
[08:01] <bharatak> my last vps was a virtuoza, and it would kill processes
[08:02] <toddf> send a ssh pubkey to support@ and get ssh access to shutdown/boot/secure vnc tunnel/connect to serial console/etc
[08:02] <toddf> read the signup page, arpnetworks does not overcommit memory
[08:04] <bharatak> thats one of the reasons i signed up, great in theory
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[08:57] <vcs> bharatak: sounds like your old provider overcrowded the servers
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[11:34] <up_the_irons> bharatak: yeah, RAM is not over-committed.  Each host machine has 32GB of RAM, and I put up to 24GB of VMs on it, leaving the remaining 8GB for the OS + possible RAM stick failure (thereby leaving only 28GB left, so you need the buffer)
[11:34] <up_the_irons> I've had a stick fail once
[11:50] <jpalmer> RAM is one of the few components I'll spend a premium on.  I buy a ton if it,  and have never had an issue with a stick from crucial.com,  but there are several good brands
[11:56] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i buy from crucial too, good experiences.  however, i have an 8GB kit from my last purchase that is actually bad.  need to RMA it.  But at least it was the bad right away, and not 3 months down the road after a production box is deployed ;)
[11:56] <jpalmer> oh man, thats the worst. yea.
[11:56] <jpalmer> random corruption and./or crashes.
[11:57] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: I've *never* had to RMA from crucial.  I'd be interested to hear how it goes.  if it's a pain, or if they are quick about it and willing to cross-ship,  etc
[11:57] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: yeah, i'll let u know
[11:58] <jpalmer> danke
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[15:33] <jdoe> jpalmer: every manufacturer has ram go bad eventually.
[15:33] <jdoe> jpalmer: I mean shit, I have to go hunt down bad ram this weekend :/
[15:34] <jdoe> really hoping just turning off ECC will be enough of a test, I don't want to sit there waiting for memtest to churn through 4gb 4 times (worst case, I guess)
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