hm.. did anyone else mention not being able to log in to VNC on kvr13 recently? I get "connected" but no screen (and depending on the vnc viewer, no password prompt..) I suppose I should hard shutdown that got it .. vnc -> tcp connect direct to the userland kvm process, so .. if kvm has issues serving tcp, then that will suffer 'hard shutdown' -> kill kvm process, then 'boot' -> 'start kvm process' toddf: yeah ARP what did you do to me?! I've been using OpenBSD for a few weeks, and here I am now stting in front of a debian box and thinking.... "Damn... Linux sucks..." :( do you mean you lost your openbsd install? :( nope you converted to using debian then? :P but I had to use this debian box for someone ah my vpses are still kicking obsd :-p :) what I mean is after years of only linux, I realise now that it's a little messy maybe 'sucks' is an over reaction though yeah, I definitely like how organized things are (in general) on the BSDs tinono: it should follow that things are organized and uniform in projects where all things are controlled in one place by one set of developers... ;-) greets - is there a way to change the VNC password? I couldnt see how and yes, OpenBSD makes much more sense not presently, support@ ticket to bump the priority of changeable passwords across the board .. I suspect it will eventually happen, just subject to up_the_irons time etc ;-) ok i'm actually glad to finally get a decently priced bsd server i'm migrating off linux now I looked around for a while, there are some places that are slightly cheaper by a few pennies but nothing beats the remote access and instareboot capabilities yes, i dig the remote vnc console serial console also.. i havent tried that yet but the host is running linux kvm right? do you have any idea how it handels when memory is tight? my last vps was a virtuoza, and it would kill processes send a ssh pubkey to support@ and get ssh access to shutdown/boot/secure vnc tunnel/connect to serial console/etc read the signup page, arpnetworks does not overcommit memory thats one of the reasons i signed up, great in theory bharatak: sounds like your old provider overcrowded the servers bharatak: yeah, RAM is not over-committed. Each host machine has 32GB of RAM, and I put up to 24GB of VMs on it, leaving the remaining 8GB for the OS + possible RAM stick failure (thereby leaving only 28GB left, so you need the buffer) I've had a stick fail once RAM is one of the few components I'll spend a premium on. I buy a ton if it, and have never had an issue with a stick from crucial.com, but there are several good brands jpalmer: i buy from crucial too, good experiences. however, i have an 8GB kit from my last purchase that is actually bad. need to RMA it. But at least it was the bad right away, and not 3 months down the road after a production box is deployed ;) oh man, thats the worst. yea. random corruption and./or crashes. up_the_irons: I've *never* had to RMA from crucial. I'd be interested to hear how it goes. if it's a pain, or if they are quick about it and willing to cross-ship, etc jpalmer: yeah, i'll let u know danke jpalmer: every manufacturer has ram go bad eventually. jpalmer: I mean shit, I have to go hunt down bad ram this weekend :/ really hoping just turning off ECC will be enough of a test, I don't want to sit there waiting for memtest to churn through 4gb 4 times (worst case, I guess)