#arpnetworks 2010-10-15,Fri

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mattx86hm.. did anyone else mention not being able to log in to VNC on kvr13 recently?
I get "connected" but no screen (and depending on the vnc viewer, no password prompt..)
I suppose I should hard shutdown
that got it ..
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toddfvnc -> tcp connect direct to the userland kvm process, so .. if kvm has issues serving tcp, then that will suffer [03:52]
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toddf'hard shutdown' -> kill kvm process, then 'boot' -> 'start kvm process' [05:08]
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mattx86toddf: yeah [06:33]
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tinonoARP what did you do to me?! I've been using OpenBSD for a few weeks, and here I am now stting in front of a debian box and thinking.... "Damn... Linux sucks..."
:(
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mattx86do you mean you lost your openbsd install? :( [07:21]
tinononope [07:21]
mattx86you converted to using debian then? :P [07:22]
tinonobut I had to use this debian box for someone [07:22]
mattx86ah [07:22]
tinonomy vpses are still kicking obsd :-p [07:22]
mattx86:) [07:22]
tinonowhat I mean is after years of only linux, I realise now that it's a little messy
maybe 'sucks' is an over reaction though
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mattx86yeah, I definitely like how organized things are (in general) on the BSDs [07:23]
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toddftinono: it should follow that things are organized and uniform in projects where all things are controlled in one place by one set of developers... ;-) [07:41]
bharatakgreets - is there a way to change the VNC password? I couldnt see how
and yes, OpenBSD makes much more sense
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toddfnot presently, support@ ticket to bump the priority of changeable passwords across the board .. I suspect it will eventually happen, just subject to up_the_irons time etc ;-) [07:43]
bharatakok
i'm actually glad to finally get a decently priced bsd server
i'm migrating off linux now
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toddfI looked around for a while, there are some places that are slightly cheaper by a few pennies but nothing beats the remote access and instareboot capabilities [07:46]
bharatakyes, i dig the remote vnc console
bharatak has been known to hose a firewall config or three
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toddfserial console also.. [07:54]
bharataki havent tried that yet
but the host is running linux kvm right? do you have any idea how it handels when memory is tight?
my last vps was a virtuoza, and it would kill processes
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toddfsend a ssh pubkey to support@ and get ssh access to shutdown/boot/secure vnc tunnel/connect to serial console/etc
read the signup page, arpnetworks does not overcommit memory
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bharatakthats one of the reasons i signed up, great in theory [08:04]
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vcsbharatak: sounds like your old provider overcrowded the servers [08:57]
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up_the_ironsbharatak: yeah, RAM is not over-committed. Each host machine has 32GB of RAM, and I put up to 24GB of VMs on it, leaving the remaining 8GB for the OS + possible RAM stick failure (thereby leaving only 28GB left, so you need the buffer)
I've had a stick fail once
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jpalmerRAM is one of the few components I'll spend a premium on. I buy a ton if it, and have never had an issue with a stick from crucial.com, but there are several good brands [11:50]
up_the_ironsjpalmer: i buy from crucial too, good experiences. however, i have an 8GB kit from my last purchase that is actually bad. need to RMA it. But at least it was the bad right away, and not 3 months down the road after a production box is deployed ;) [11:56]
jpalmeroh man, thats the worst. yea.
random corruption and./or crashes.
up_the_irons: I've *never* had to RMA from crucial. I'd be interested to hear how it goes. if it's a pain, or if they are quick about it and willing to cross-ship, etc
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up_the_ironsjpalmer: yeah, i'll let u know [11:57]
jpalmerdanke [11:58]
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jdoejpalmer: every manufacturer has ram go bad eventually.
jpalmer: I mean shit, I have to go hunt down bad ram this weekend :/
really hoping just turning off ECC will be enough of a test, I don't want to sit there waiting for memtest to churn through 4gb 4 times (worst case, I guess)
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