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| toddf | randallschwartz: good forward to freebsd ;-) http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=751891+0+current/freebsd-questions | [13:04] |
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| tinono | http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS25795&v=6&view=2.0
isn't something missing? xeex isn't listed anymore | [13:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | xeex is evil anyway | [14:04] |
| mattx86 | I guess that's correct: http://bgp.he.net/AS25795 | [14:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | I like how the average v6 path is nearly a hop shorter | [14:06] |
| tinono | :) | [14:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | although that says nothing about width, just depth
nor about actual hops, just AS zones | [14:06] |
| mattx86 | looks like the IPv4 Peer Count dropped off near the end of last month | [14:07] |
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| up_the_irons | take all those AS reports with a grain of salt
like HE only sees 10 peers, but i have over 40 | [14:21] |
| mattx86 | ah | [14:23] |
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| tinono | what do people use for backups? (just asking...) | [16:42] |
| mike-burns | tarsnap | [16:43] |
| jpalmer | bacula | [16:52] |
| bob^^ | tarsnap
++ | [16:54] |
| tinono | tarsnap looks cool
thanks, i might very well start using that! | [16:56] |
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| bob^^ | can't beat tarsnap tbh
just look who engineered it ;) | [17:20] |
| tinono | i'm sold ~_~ | [17:21] |
| bob^^ | it's fantastic value, too
(though i still use dropbox for stuff i don't consider 'secure') i guess the nice thing is it's written with freebsd in mind ;) | [17:21] |
| tinono | thanks anyway, i really didn't know about this nifty little tool. | [17:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | I like the solutions that use rsync to give me incremental backups, hardlinking all the previous files so I always have a full view
there's two or three of those rsync got smart enough to do that about a year or two ago the other thing I like about recent rsync is the ability to completely control "ignore source, ignore destination" etc I have some very complex scripts using that now | [17:32] |
| jpalmer | the problem with "complex" in a backup solution is.. more stuff breaks. | [17:34] |
| up_the_irons | indeed | [17:34] |
| RandalSchwartz | well, this is just for copying a website to a new place
but I wanted /analog/ left alone so I have rsync --delete --delete-excluded --filter='. -' $src $dest <<EOF H /analong/ P /analog/ + * EOF and it works great err.. s/long/log/ :) | [17:35] |
| up_the_irons | holy SHIT, you can pass '. -' to --filter?! | [17:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | yes! | [17:38] |
| up_the_irons | how very fucking clever | [17:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | inline in your shell
very very cool | [17:38] |
| up_the_irons | that keeps everything in the same place, awesome | [17:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | I have been translating all my comples "--include" "--exclude" scripts to this format
makes it so much easier to read | [17:39] |
| up_the_irons | so --filter can do both include and exclude?
up_the_irons needs to 'man rsync' | [17:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | Yesa
+ = include - = exclude | [17:39] |
| bob^^ | RandalSchwartz: duplicity + rsync.net
:) | [17:40] |
| RandalSchwartz | here's a complex one I'm using http://pastebin.ca/1955990
there's actually an example of '--filter' beign used like that but they use a useless cat for it! | [17:42] |
| bob^^ | hehe | [17:45] |
| RandalSchwartz | as soon as I realized I didn't need the useless cat, it got easier :)
I have a feeling up_the_irons will be rewriting a few scripts tonight. :) | [17:46] |
| jpalmer | there seems to be a lot of that in this channel :P I'm working right now on duplicating my nagios monitoring system into opsview.
because of a conversation from roughly two nights ago. I started looking into opsview, and realized it does a few things I wished nagios did. | [17:49] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: :) | [17:49] |
| bob^^ | jpalmer: welcome to opsview :)
it makes my life a lot easier :) | [17:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | darn it... now you're gonna wanna make me try it | [17:50] |
| bob^^ | it's worth every minute spent trying it | [17:50] |
| jpalmer | lol.. SEE?! this channel causes people to redo shit! | [17:51] |
| bob^^ | nagios with enhancements and a great fantastic front end
:) | [17:51] |
| jpalmer | we should all /part, and stuff :P | [17:51] |
| bob^^ | and it makes scaling across multiple nodes sooooo easy | [17:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz cues the shit for redoing
Oops. no port for opsview can't isntall something without a port | [17:51] |
| jpalmer | bob^^: the scaling was the *main* thing I was interested in. I'm at enough hosts/services, that scaling nagios is becoming a real pain in the.. irons. being able to distribute it among multiple servers is totally worth it. | [17:52] |
| bob^^ | not on freebsd unfortunately, RandalSchwartz :( | [17:52] |
| jpalmer | RandalSchwartz: I saw that. I was thinking about porting it. | [17:52] |
| bob^^ | we run it on debian which makes me a bit sad
they will port it but need commercial sponsorship i'm currently trying to get my employer to pay (we use freebsd for *everything*) | [17:52] |
| jpalmer | I want to get more familiar with it, and make sure I'm actually going to use it in production, before I port.
bob^^: why pay them to port it, when we can do that? | [17:53] |
| bob^^ | well, it'd be nice to have them officially support it
but yes, i've been thinking about porting it too | [17:53] |
| jpalmer | ehh, if I decide to use it in production, I'll offer to port it, with their "official" blessing. hell, I'll even send the PR to them, so they can submit it under thier prefered maintainer account. | [17:54] |
| bob^^ | :)
i don't think it's just making the port tbh they do a few nasty things that make it linux-only atm | [17:55] |
| jpalmer | it can't be. there has to be something else. a port is cake | [17:56] |
| bob^^ | but i have a feeling they're probably easy to weed out if you know what you're doing | [17:56] |
| jpalmer | I'm copying my nagios configs, and printing them out. have to duplicate a TON of things. | [18:02] |
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| toddf | some nagios users use preprocessors like perl etc to generate nagios configs | [18:22] |
| bob^^ | i wrote some horrible php scripts for nagios
scripts i hope are now destroyed in the mists of time | [18:23] |
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| jdoe | haha
wtf the community version can't do sms alerts? ... oh it can. | [18:44] |
| jpalmer | jdoe: where do you see that it can? I came to the same impression as you about it not being able to
luckily, my carrier provides an email to SMS gateway. but I'd rather do normal/native SMS | [18:54] |
| jdoe | jpalmer: uhhh.. somewhere on the website, I forget where. It was somewhere obvious too, I didn't click too deep.
I think we ONLY have email to SMS so it doesn't matter much to me. although I wonder how much it'd cost for my voip provider to do that... | [18:55] |
| jpalmer | I dunno man, I keep finding things like this:
If you want more powerful reporting functionality or support for your Help Desk system, SMS gateway and RANCID you'll need to upgrade to Opsview Enterprise. I've seen nothing that even hints that community edition can do SMS | [18:58] |
| jdoe | I don't care about reporting but... I dunno. I really wish it was a bit clearer on what it has or what it doesn't.
the community edition can (presumably) do non-native SMS like through a gateway or whatever. | [18:59] |
| jpalmer | it looks like the only SMS it supports by default, is AQL (an SMS subscription service) | [19:00] |
| jdoe | er
presumably you can write your own checks/notification scripts. otherwise ... wtf, why would I switch to that? | [19:01] |
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