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schmir has joined #arpnetworks toddf: randallschwartz: good forward to freebsd ;-) http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=751891+0+current/freebsd-questions ***: heda has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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isn't something missing?
xeex isn't listed anymore RandalSchwartz: xeex is evil anyway mattx86: I guess that's correct: http://bgp.he.net/AS25795 RandalSchwartz: I like how the average v6 path is nearly a hop shorter tinono: :) RandalSchwartz: although that says nothing about width, just depth
nor about actual hops, just AS zones mattx86: looks like the IPv4 Peer Count dropped off near the end of last month ***: mike-burns_ has joined #arpnetworks
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schmir has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: take all those AS reports with a grain of salt
like HE only sees 10 peers, but i have over 40 mattx86: ah ***: schmir has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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fink has joined #arpnetworks tinono: what do people use for backups? (just asking...) mike-burns: tarsnap jpalmer: bacula bob^^: tarsnap
++ tinono: tarsnap looks cool
thanks, i might very well start using that! ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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just look who engineered it ;) tinono: i'm sold ~_~ bob^^: it's fantastic value, too
(though i still use dropbox for stuff i don't consider 'secure')
i guess the nice thing is it's written with freebsd in mind ;) tinono: thanks anyway, i really didn't know about this nifty little tool. RandalSchwartz: I like the solutions that use rsync to give me incremental backups, hardlinking all the previous files so I always have a full view
there's two or three of those
rsync got smart enough to do that about a year or two ago
the other thing I like about recent rsync is the ability to completely control "ignore source, ignore destination" etc
I have some very complex scripts using that now jpalmer: the problem with "complex" in a backup solution is.. more stuff breaks. up_the_irons: indeed RandalSchwartz: well, this is just for copying a website to a new place
but I wanted /analog/ left alone
so I have rsync --delete --delete-excluded --filter='. -' $src $dest <<EOF
H /analong/
P /analog/
+ *
EOF
and it works great
err.. s/long/log/ :) up_the_irons: holy SHIT, you can pass '. -' to --filter?! RandalSchwartz: yes! up_the_irons: how very fucking clever RandalSchwartz: inline in your shell
very very cool up_the_irons: that keeps everything in the same place, awesome RandalSchwartz: I have been translating all my comples "--include" "--exclude" scripts to this format
makes it so much easier to read up_the_irons: so --filter can do both include and exclude? -: up_the_irons needs to 'man rsync' RandalSchwartz: Yesa
+ = include
- = exclude bob^^: RandalSchwartz: duplicity + rsync.net
:) RandalSchwartz: here's a complex one I'm using http://pastebin.ca/1955990
there's actually an example of '--filter' beign used like that
but they use a useless cat for it! bob^^: hehe RandalSchwartz: as soon as I realized I didn't need the useless cat, it got easier :)
I have a feeling up_the_irons will be rewriting a few scripts tonight. :) jpalmer: there seems to be a lot of that in this channel :P I'm working right now on duplicating my nagios monitoring system into opsview.
because of a conversation from roughly two nights ago. I started looking into opsview, and realized it does a few things I wished nagios did. up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: :) bob^^: jpalmer: welcome to opsview :)
it makes my life a lot easier :) RandalSchwartz: darn it... now you're gonna wanna make me try it bob^^: it's worth every minute spent trying it jpalmer: lol.. SEE?! this channel causes people to redo shit! bob^^: nagios with enhancements and a great fantastic front end
:) jpalmer: we should all /part, and stuff :P bob^^: and it makes scaling across multiple nodes sooooo easy -: RandalSchwartz cues the shit for redoing RandalSchwartz: Oops. no port for opsview
can't isntall something without a port jpalmer: bob^^: the scaling was the *main* thing I was interested in. I'm at enough hosts/services, that scaling nagios is becoming a real pain in the.. irons. being able to distribute it among multiple servers is totally worth it. bob^^: not on freebsd unfortunately, RandalSchwartz :( jpalmer: RandalSchwartz: I saw that. I was thinking about porting it. bob^^: we run it on debian which makes me a bit sad
they will port it
but need commercial sponsorship
i'm currently trying to get my employer to pay (we use freebsd for *everything*) jpalmer: I want to get more familiar with it, and make sure I'm actually going to use it in production, before I port.
bob^^: why pay them to port it, when we can do that? bob^^: well, it'd be nice to have them officially support it
but yes, i've been thinking about porting it too jpalmer: ehh, if I decide to use it in production, I'll offer to port it, with their "official" blessing. hell, I'll even send the PR to them, so they can submit it under thier prefered maintainer account. bob^^: :)
i don't think it's just making the port tbh
they do a few nasty things that make it linux-only atm jpalmer: it can't be. there has to be something else. a port is cake bob^^: but i have a feeling they're probably easy to weed out if you know what you're doing jpalmer: I'm copying my nagios configs, and printing them out. have to duplicate a TON of things. toddf: some nagios users use preprocessors like perl etc to generate nagios configs bob^^: i wrote some horrible php scripts for nagios
scripts i hope are now destroyed in the mists of time jdoe: haha
wtf
the community version can't do sms alerts?
... oh it can. jpalmer: jdoe: where do you see that it can? I came to the same impression as you about it not being able to
luckily, my carrier provides an email to SMS gateway. but I'd rather do normal/native SMS jdoe: jpalmer: uhhh.. somewhere on the website, I forget where. It was somewhere obvious too, I didn't click too deep.
I think we ONLY have email to SMS so it doesn't matter much to me.
although I wonder how much it'd cost for my voip provider to do that... jpalmer: I dunno man, I keep finding things like this:
If you want more powerful reporting functionality or support for your Help Desk system, SMS gateway and RANCID you'll need to upgrade to Opsview Enterprise.
I've seen nothing that even hints that community edition can do SMS jdoe: I don't care about reporting but... I dunno. I really wish it was a bit clearer on what it has or what it doesn't.
the community edition can (presumably) do non-native SMS
like through a gateway or whatever. jpalmer: it looks like the only SMS it supports by default, is AQL (an SMS subscription service) jdoe: er
presumably you can write your own checks/notification scripts.
otherwise ... wtf, why would I switch to that? ***: cedwards_ has joined #arpnetworks
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