[00:42] *** koan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:43] *** koan has joined #arpnetworks [00:43] *** koan has quit IRC (Changing host) [00:43] *** koan has joined #arpnetworks [01:07] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [02:22] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [03:08] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:26] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [03:58] *** dxtr has quit IRC (Quit: I'm outta here) [03:59] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [04:04] *** dxtr has joined #arpnetworks [04:37] *** nakano_ is now known as nakano [04:55] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [06:55] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [07:03] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: BAMPF!) [07:13] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:20] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [07:37] Abnyone here? [07:37] Anyone* [07:39] * bob^^ waves [07:39] Uhm [07:39] How the hell do I partition my new disk I had added to my VPS? [07:39] fdisk fails [07:40] wait [07:40] http://pastebin.ca/1954098 [07:40] There's the error [07:40] disklabel? [07:42] bsdlabel -B -w /dev/ad1 auto <- Like that according to the handbook(?) [07:43] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:43] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [07:44] I could use sysinstall though [07:46] oh, right [07:46] Silly me [07:46] :) [07:46] Securelevel and stuff :D [07:49] I should b able to boot the CD, right? [07:49] And partition from it [07:50] yeah, but you shuold be able to partition from a live system too [07:50] I don't think that when I've got securelevel set to 2 [07:51] oh, possibly not [07:51] i don't think you can mount with securelevel=2 [07:52] you could adjust the securelevel and reboot [07:52] or, as you say, do it from the installer [07:53] I think I'll change the securelevel so I can reboot, partition AND mount it .P [07:53] Or I'll have to reboot twice [07:53] indeed :) [07:54] anyway. brb then [07:54] :) [07:54] *** dxtr has quit IRC (Quit: I'm outta here) [07:54] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [08:06] *** Hien has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:13] 'lo [08:17] *** dxtr has joined #arpnetworks [08:17] Fuck yeah [08:18] I've put my jails on a different disk now :D [08:49] RandalSchwartz: I take it you didn't open your 4.4BSD design book to write the insulation article? ;-) [08:50] insulation? [08:50] your last tweet roughly 30 mins ago [08:50] http://post.ly/11myb [08:51] oh - "insulates you" [08:51] I was thinking you were being funny on the word "installation" [08:51] yes, I sometimes get the BSD lineage wrong [08:51] i havent ever done jails before on freebsd [08:51] IPv6Free1y: you'e missing out. [08:51] ezjail makes it mostly easy [08:51] what does it gain me? [08:51] and then you get smarter and stop using that :) [08:52] IPv6Free1y - it's a full chroot environment [08:52] sorry... that means nothing to me :P [08:52] if you run your webserver in a jail, even if someone breaks out of it, they can only mess with tthe webserver [08:52] think of it as a virtual server "inside" your virtual serer [08:52] RandalSchwartz: I have to look it up, I wasn't involved at all until roughly a year after OpenBSD was started, slackware then debian was my thing for the first 5+ years of my unix exposure [08:52] IPv6Free1y: added security in the event of an exploit? [08:52] oh,*shrug* [08:53] just a belt to add to your suspenders. :) [08:53] yea i guess [08:53] anybody can cut through duct tape with a knife [08:53] cool i guess, its never something id thought about [08:57] Man, this new Verizon MiFi is amazing! [08:57] http://dev.inetpro.org/pastebin/193 [08:57] I could even run voice over that kinda connection! [08:58] Check out these BLAZING fast speeds! http://www.speedtest.net/result/977770227.png [08:59] that resembles my speed over a bluetooth connection to my tmobile blackberry hitting the net at EDGE speeds [09:00] Indeed. It's a great replacement for home Internet access isn't it? [09:00] I'm on the lookout for a cheap N900 since my brother got 5mbit/s down via tmobile 3g on his .. and as a bonus it can do IPv6 if you signup for the tmobile public beta of IPv6 ;-) [09:00] Or at least, since the company I work for decided that rather than paying for my Internet connection at home, they'd be providing me with this. [09:01] yeouch. so are you permitted to get cost equivalent service elsewhere? [09:01] Nope. They said "sorry, we're not reimbursing your Intenet anymore, so we're sending you this Verizon MiFi" [09:02] guess you get to use it whenever work related issues come up and make it clear to them it is the reason you can't handle things in a time efficient manner anymore ;-) [09:02] They used to reimburse up to $50 of our Internet bill (didnt quite cover mine, but thats okay), and $100 of a cellular bill. They did away with both of those starting Oct 1 [09:02] The cell thing isn't a huge deal, since they just moved my personal ATT account to their corp account, which doesnt incur a termination fee or anything [09:03] Though I asked them how theyre gonna handle my international calls and texts.. they said "oh, do you do a lot of international business?" "umm yea, my family and all my friends are international" [09:04] ... this is why the reimbursement model is the absolute best way to handle this stuff... let me pick my plan. [09:04] I *LOVE* this company, but this is the first seriously stupid thing they've done since I came on board. [09:05] well, you know, family and personal calls being international typically is not a company expense, unless they specifically rellocated you into antartica or somesuch [09:05] nor was it when i was paying my own cell bill [09:05] oh... [09:05] heh [09:05] they want me to move my phone onto their corp plan? fine... but now my personal calls are YOUR problem, not mine. [09:06] you might find paying for decent inet and doing voip is cheaper for international calls than paying a mobile phone company to do international calling [09:06] $.05/min to switzerland for example [09:06] Sure, but now its them paying for it, not me. [09:06] It WAS me, and I was fine with that. [09:06] Now that they are requiring me to use their corporate plan, they just better not bitch about my usage patterns. [09:07] Theyre shooting themselves in the foot. [09:07] This MiFi plan is capped at 5GB. I intend to make sure I use at least twice that every month. [09:07] Maybe they'll get the hint [09:08] indeed [09:08] I'm just bitching about a rather less-than-logical business decision on their part...sorry. [09:09] Now, to write some SRX configs... [09:14] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:37] Hmm [09:37] My jail doesn't seem to be accessible from the outside world [09:37] is that good? [09:38] No [09:38] My DNS server is there [09:39] My firewall is allowing it [09:39] Hmm [09:39] And it's only Ipv4 that isn't working :p [09:40] try to access 206.125.172.30 and resolve ns1.dxtr.cc [09:40] With v4 and v6 [09:42] WHY!? [09:42] err [09:43] disregard that "with v4 and v6" :P [09:46] hmm [09:46] I just don't get it [09:48] if all else fails doublecheck your netmasks. had someone have me debug their system that was accessable from everywhere but a few specific places and it turns out they forgot to specify a netmask and an /8 was not their intention of a local ethernet segment in v4 land [09:51] inet 206.125.172.30 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.125.172.31 [09:51] I didn't ask you to paste it here, just to doublecheck. you know. like think about and verify they make sense? ;-) I don't know what your proper netmask should be, only you do ;-) [09:52] Yeah, I know :P [09:52] But can you access that IP or is it just me? [09:52] Because I seriously can't find anything wrong [09:53] I can ping it from here [09:53] I can access it from my host [09:53] But I can't access it from home [09:53] define "access" .. ping or http or ? [09:54] DNS [09:54] :p [09:54] I said that a couple of line sup [09:54] lines up* [09:54] $ host 206.125.172.30 206.125.172.30 [09:54] Using domain server: [09:54] Name: 206.125.172.30 [09:54] Address: 206.125.172.30#53 [09:54] Aliases: [09:54] Host 30.172.125.206.in-addr.arpa not found: 2(SERVFAIL) [09:54] at least it returned SERVFAIL so I guess that it is reachable [09:56] Err [09:58] toddf: Uhm, seems to work if you ask me [10:00] So... Why isn't nsd logging? [10:00] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:02] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [10:03] I think I might have foudn one error [10:04] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [10:06] up_the_irons! :) [10:10] Would it be possible to use a third party as backup DNS for my IP subnet? :D [10:10] like freedns.afraid.org? [10:10] I think I'll try [10:22] I've been using he.net [10:22] if you have a tunnel with them, they do free backup DNS [10:22] and you can't get much better than 5 DNS servers around the world :) [10:39] RandalSchwartz: I'm sing sixxs for my ipv6 tunneling. But I meant for my ipv4 subnet at arpnetworks :P [10:39] I've only got one server - but I still want to manage my own DNS [10:39] so either I can have my backup at arpnetworks or I'll be forced to use some third party [10:56] dxtr - I got a free tunnel from he.net for home, but once you're in the free program, you can have up to 25 forward and reverse domains hosted with them... unrelatd to tunnel [10:56] RandalSchwartz: Shit damn [10:57] yes... check out the "host -t ns stonehenge.com", for example [10:57] and consider those servers are on very fast machines and nets all over the world. :) [10:59] Where do I sign up? [10:59] What's the criteria? [10:59] tunnelbroker.net [10:59] you have to want it. that's about it. :) [11:13] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:16] *** heda has joined #arpnetworks [11:16] hi all, i just dropped an email to preorder but since there's an irc channel i thought i'd drop in [11:17] greetings, future arp resident! [11:18] They're sold out again? :P [11:18] demand exceeds supply [11:18] thanks RandalSchwartz, currently have a dedicated box with meganetserve but its a huge box that underloaded 0.01, 0.03, 0.03 so time to downsize a bit and save some money [11:19] VPS are like potato chips though. once you have one, you'll want more. :) [11:19] I'm up to 4 now with ARP [11:19] RandalSchwartz: how easy is a future upgrade. I'm guessing its just a call or email to shutdown the vps, icnrease resources and boot again [11:19] it's like that, yeah [11:20] though additional disk obviously needs to be mounted somewhere else [11:20] depends on the filesystem [11:20] will be freebsd box [11:20] the host can extend the disk size without disturbing the contents [11:20] freebsd has many fs [11:21] so if the guest os can do something about that (most can), then can still be one disk [11:21] ufs2 i'd imagine [11:21] I don't recognize ufs2 [11:22] ffs ? [11:22] yeah, I think it's ffs [11:22] yep [11:22] or zfs, which is what I'm using [11:22] you addressing some big disks there? [11:22] RandalSchwartz: I think I'll use that instead then [11:22] you can grow ufs2, which is cool, never knew that before [11:23] i presume the routes to europe are good? [11:23] RandalSchwartz: What should I use for reverse backup? "slave" or "reverse"? :P [11:25] are you hosting it on your arp box, and you just want he to slave it? [11:25] as in, where are the master records? [11:25] "reverse" means the master records are on he.net [11:25] "slave" means the master records are elsehwere [11:26] Right [11:26] so the three choices are domain and reverse (both mastered on he.net) and slave (either a domain or reverse hosted elsewhere) [11:27] s/hosted/mastered/ [11:30] Awesome [11:30] Thank you .) [11:33] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [11:33] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:37] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [11:40] RandalSchwartz: So I will add ns1 through ns5.he.net as backup? [11:45] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:15] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [12:25] RandalSchwartz: I will probably use it as a backup for my domains too :D [12:32] *** Lefty has quit IRC (Quit: brb, rebooting for OS update) [12:35] *** Lefty has joined #arpnetworks [12:45] *** killring has joined #arpnetworks [12:47] *** nakano_ is now known as nakano [13:04] *** hiro_dSn_ has joined #arpnetworks [13:06] *** hiro_dSn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [13:10] *** andrewnemeth has joined #arpnetworks [13:10] hey guys [13:10] any admin here? [13:11] I'd say no [13:11] :) [13:11] haha [13:12] andrewnemeth - well, we're all admins on some level [13:13] and users on another [13:13] pf [13:13] I just have an easy question [13:13] you have a pf question? [13:13] are you really out of stock now? [13:13] I just need a small vps [13:13] me personally? no [13:13] well [13:13] but yes, I think ARP is backordere again [13:13] and how about you?:) [13:14] victims of their own success [13:19] RandalSchwartz: gosh I really misread that 'backordere' [13:19] lol [13:20] andrewnemeth: wait until tonight (PST) when I take off the sold out sign [13:21] k [13:30] *** andrewnemeth has quit IRC (Quit: andrewnemeth) [13:46] up_the_irons! [13:50] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:02] *** atsen has joined #arpnetworks [14:06] *** atsen has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:16] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:38] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:55] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:56] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [15:04] *** sentabi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:05] *** sentabi has joined #arpnetworks [15:52] *** heda has quit IRC (Quit: heda) [16:04] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:08] *** heda has joined #arpnetworks [18:02] *** nathara has joined #arpnetworks [18:05] *** nathara is now known as ncullen [18:07] *** bob___ has joined #arpnetworks [18:09] *** bob^^ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:13] are there definitely more vps slots opening up tonight yeah? [18:13] that's what is said on the website [18:14] yep, wanted to try and confirm but [18:14] and was wondering if it was going to be tonight or tomorrow night [18:14] you're in some kind of hurry? [18:14] yep [18:15] hopefuly it all works out for you then :) [18:15] i have a limited period of time to move all my old stuff from my current server before i enter another billing cycle [18:15] hope so too [18:22] what host are you moving from? [18:22] *** mattx86 has quit IRC (Quit: brb) [18:23] *** mattx86 has joined #arpnetworks [18:23] meganetserve, the box i have there is way to big for my needs [18:34] any idea how many ip4 addresses come with each vps? 1 or 2 or more? [18:37] *** killring has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [18:38] heda: order before provisioning starts .. which is nowish to early am .. and you'll get your vps setup by tomorrow; each vps comes with with 1 ip until you get multiple vps's, just specify what you need in the comments and it'll get provisioned ;-) [18:39] toddf: thanks, yeah i mailed the preorder address earlier alright, 1 is cool, i can make do with 1 for now [18:40] ip address that is [18:44] note you get a /48 of IPv6 addresses but anyway [18:45] toddf: yeah thats pretty cool, my current provider doesn't give me any ipv6 at all [18:46] so it'll be nice to get a proper play around with that [18:48] *** killring_ has joined #arpnetworks [18:48] *** killring_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [18:48] *** killring has joined #arpnetworks [19:29] *** ncullen has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [19:58] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [21:09] up_the_irons: Stop being lazy :) [21:40] *** ncullen has joined #arpnetworks [21:56] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [23:19] *** andrewnemeth has joined #arpnetworks [23:21] hey gus [23:21] admin here? 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