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hsien: cool
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dxtr: http://blolpics.com/33595 hmm
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sbp_: is the os reinstall something i can do or support?
ziyourenxiang: if it is botched, you'll probably have to call support. if it is fully functioning and you're "make installworld"'ing, then you can do it by yourself.
jpalmer: sbp_: you can always reinstall teh OS yourself.
sbp_: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/re-install-or-change-os
ziyourenxiang: cool.
sbp_: but not instantly
must wait 5 days for gary
!!!
jpalmer: sbp_: what? you can do it *yourself*
I just gave you the link with the instructions. did you read them?
sbp_: instructions to email support?
or am i missing it
maybe the custom partitions link
let me check that
jpalmer: do I really need to repaste the link, it's only 10 lines above.
04:22 <jpalmer> sbp_: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/re-install-or-change-os
sbp_: yep
thanks
:)
RandalSchwartz: sbp - I typically wipe the disk Garry gives me, and install my own. Takes all of 20 minutes.
sbp_: right on
just gotta figure out an f12 alternative in osx
then ill be on my way
jpalmer: on a MBP, you have to hit function, and f12
RandalSchwartz: "alternative"?
"hold" function, not just hit it
it's a modifer, not a prefi
prefix
sbp_: yah f12 was bringing up say... calculator and all the apps
jpalmer: yeah, hold function, then press f12.
sbp_: ok let me try again
;d
RandalSchwartz: luckily, you have about a 10 second window
jpalmer: ugg, ddns on BIND is pissing me off.
RandalSchwartz: dyndns?
jpalmer: yea
RandalSchwartz: every time I looked, it seemed ... trikcy
tricky too
jpalmer: I have nsupdate working on the localhost. but when I try to have a remote host do it, I get a "REFUSED" response. and nothing in the logs (even in debug mode) shows *why*
RandalSchwartz: are you listening on * for the control port?
default is localhost
jpalmer: I'm pretty sure, but let me double check.
RandalSchwartz: ... allow-update { localhost; };
be sure your allow-update is wide enough
jpalmer: I have allow-update listing 2 keys.
the localhost key, and the remote host key
RandalSchwartz: "key"?
looks like that should be an address, not a key
.. allow-update defines a match list e.g. IP address(es) that are allowed to submit dynamic updates for 'master' zones i.e it enables Dynamic DNS (DDNS).
ahh ... I see "key" under match-list
jpalmer: the key is usually named something that matches the host using the key, so I can understand the confusion at first glance
but yes, I'm using keys in allow-update
RandalSchwartz: so then it's about whether or not you're listening on *
instead of localhost
and also if you have any firewall rules
jpalmer: I am, normal queries succeed
RandalSchwartz: is named logging refused?
you have both tcp and udp 53 open?
jpalmer: udp only
RandalSchwartz: please enable tcp
jpalmer: oh, I wonder if nsupdate is using tcp. let me look
RandalSchwartz: doesn't matter
one day, things will break mysteriously if tcp is refused
actually, you may have hit that day :)
jpalmer: nope, it's udp
RandalSchwartz: well, that's still one thing to fix
so is the named reporting refused?
as in, is it getting all the way there?
jpalmer: I've run named for years with only udp allowed at the firewall
yes, just "denied"
nsupdate shows REFUSED bind shows denied. no furhter explanation on either side.
RandalSchwartz: jpalmer - see above
"one day"
I hear the dnssec stuff pushed many packets over the limit
so anyone who wasn't permitting tcp got a big surprise a couple of months ago
jpalmer: for testing, I just enabled tcp. no change in behavior.
RandalSchwartz: you're sending the right private key?
jpalmer: yes.
RandalSchwartz: odd
sbp_: sorry if this is a stupid question jpalmer: but if in osx and a windows keyboard how can i f21
f12
jpalmer: sbp_: I repeated myself with the link, I'm not good at repeating myself. scroll up.
sbp_: it trys to boot from hdd everytime i do anything
RandalSchwartz: press the key marked "f12" :)
sbp_: it boots to hdd tho
RandalSchwartz: are you sure you have a bootable cd?
sbp_: no
RandalSchwartz: what is installed?
what os?
sbp_: freebsd
RandalSchwartz: so you probably have a freebsd 8.1 disk?
that should work fine from f12
sbp_: its 8.1 yah
it says boot:
RandalSchwartz: hmm. that sounds like it gets all the way to stage1 without the stage0 selection
or whatever those stages are called
as in, you're already bootted from the hard drive, but the next stage isn't there
sbp_: i can hit enter, but then it just boots my old install
RandalSchwartz: I don't have a machine I can play with
unfortunately. :)
or I'd try it for you
when I hit F12, it asks me quickly where to boot
that's still in the bios
(in virtual box)
so your F12 isn't making it all the way
sbp_: yah i think i might try on windows or something
RandalSchwartz: wait... why aren't you using the native keyboard?
sbp_: well its a pieced machine
mac mini
windows keyboard
RandalSchwartz: ahh... go into the preferences for keyboard
select "f1 is really f1"
or whatever it's called
then f12 will stop bringing up expose
or widgets
or whatever it is
sbp_: ok
RandalSchwartz: keyboard pref pane... "keyboard" subpane
see "use all F1, F2 as standard function keys"
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RandalSchwartz: did that help?
I guess we'll never know. :)
root
oops :)
wrong window. good thing I didn't automatucally type my password too :)
sbp_: i dont have that option
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sbp_: but 100 reboots and keep pressing the same three ctrl/win/alt keys + f12 did
not knowning which one really needs pressed
RandalSchwartz: Uh wait
what are you pressing ctrl/win/alt for?
sbp_: cause f12 wont do anything besides boot from hdd
but one of those 3 plus f12 will
on a windows keyboard but osx
RandalSchwartz: but you're booting using the web console, or the "b" command on the virtual console, right?
"power down"... wait a bit... "power on"
sbp_: no chicken of the vnc
it just got done installing
so one of those f12 combinations let me pick 3 for cd
RandalSchwartz: uh ... we're talking across each other here.
you use chicken of the VNC to *see* the console
but you have to use another connection (or the web interface) to powerdown/powerup
sbp_: oh well i just reinstalled via it
lol
yah
i power it down
then hurry up and get vnc ready
boot
RandalSchwartz: ok - I was thinking you were trying to use the win key for that
sbp_: login via vnc
yah now i just gotta find the network settings in an old email and ill be golden
;d
RandalSchwartz: the net settings are also on your web page
sbp_: cool
founde em.. thanks