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| sbp_ | is the os reinstall something i can do or support? | [21:13] |
| ziyourenxiang | if it is botched, you'll probably have to call support. if it is fully functioning and you're "make installworld"'ing, then you can do it by yourself. | [21:17] |
| jpalmer | sbp_: you can always reinstall teh OS yourself.
sbp_: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/re-install-or-change-os | [21:19] |
| ziyourenxiang | cool. | [21:21] |
| sbp_ | but not instantly
must wait 5 days for gary !!! | [21:29] |
| jpalmer | sbp_: what? you can do it *yourself*
I just gave you the link with the instructions. did you read them? | [21:30] |
| sbp_ | instructions to email support?
or am i missing it maybe the custom partitions link let me check that | [21:35] |
| jpalmer | do I really need to repaste the link, it's only 10 lines above.
04:22 <jpalmer> sbp_: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/re-install-or-change-os | [21:37] |
| sbp_ | yep
thanks :) | [21:41] |
| RandalSchwartz | sbp - I typically wipe the disk Garry gives me, and install my own. Takes all of 20 minutes. | [21:42] |
| sbp_ | right on
just gotta figure out an f12 alternative in osx then ill be on my way | [21:45] |
| jpalmer | on a MBP, you have to hit function, and f12 | [21:45] |
| RandalSchwartz | "alternative"?
"hold" function, not just hit it it's a modifer, not a prefi prefix | [21:45] |
| sbp_ | yah f12 was bringing up say... calculator and all the apps | [21:46] |
| jpalmer | yeah, hold function, then press f12. | [21:46] |
| sbp_ | ok let me try again
;d | [21:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | luckily, you have about a 10 second window | [21:46] |
| jpalmer | ugg, ddns on BIND is pissing me off. | [21:47] |
| RandalSchwartz | dyndns? | [21:47] |
| jpalmer | yea | [21:47] |
| RandalSchwartz | every time I looked, it seemed ... trikcy
tricky too | [21:47] |
| jpalmer | I have nsupdate working on the localhost. but when I try to have a remote host do it, I get a "REFUSED" response. and nothing in the logs (even in debug mode) shows *why* | [21:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | are you listening on * for the control port?
default is localhost | [21:50] |
| jpalmer | I'm pretty sure, but let me double check. | [21:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... allow-update { localhost; };
be sure your allow-update is wide enough | [21:51] |
| jpalmer | I have allow-update listing 2 keys.
the localhost key, and the remote host key | [21:53] |
| RandalSchwartz | "key"?
looks like that should be an address, not a key .. allow-update defines a match list e.g. IP address(es) that are allowed to submit dynamic updates for 'master' zones i.e it enables Dynamic DNS (DDNS). ahh ... I see "key" under match-list | [21:54] |
| jpalmer | the key is usually named something that matches the host using the key, so I can understand the confusion at first glance
but yes, I'm using keys in allow-update | [21:57] |
| RandalSchwartz | so then it's about whether or not you're listening on *
instead of localhost and also if you have any firewall rules | [21:57] |
| jpalmer | I am, normal queries succeed | [21:57] |
| RandalSchwartz | is named logging refused?
you have both tcp and udp 53 open? | [21:57] |
| jpalmer | udp only | [21:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | please enable tcp | [21:58] |
| jpalmer | oh, I wonder if nsupdate is using tcp. let me look | [21:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | doesn't matter
one day, things will break mysteriously if tcp is refused actually, you may have hit that day :) | [21:58] |
| jpalmer | nope, it's udp | [21:59] |
| RandalSchwartz | well, that's still one thing to fix
so is the named reporting refused? as in, is it getting all the way there? | [21:59] |
| jpalmer | I've run named for years with only udp allowed at the firewall
yes, just "denied" nsupdate shows REFUSED bind shows denied. no furhter explanation on either side. | [21:59] |
| RandalSchwartz | jpalmer - see above
"one day" I hear the dnssec stuff pushed many packets over the limit so anyone who wasn't permitting tcp got a big surprise a couple of months ago | [22:00] |
| jpalmer | for testing, I just enabled tcp. no change in behavior. | [22:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | you're sending the right private key? | [22:02] |
| jpalmer | yes. | [22:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | odd | [22:02] |
| sbp_ | sorry if this is a stupid question jpalmer: but if in osx and a windows keyboard how can i f21
f12 | [22:02] |
| jpalmer | sbp_: I repeated myself with the link, I'm not good at repeating myself. scroll up. | [22:03] |
| sbp_ | it trys to boot from hdd everytime i do anything | [22:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | press the key marked "f12" :) | [22:03] |
| sbp_ | it boots to hdd tho | [22:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | are you sure you have a bootable cd? | [22:03] |
| sbp_ | no | [22:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | what is installed?
what os? | [22:03] |
| sbp_ | freebsd | [22:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | so you probably have a freebsd 8.1 disk?
that should work fine from f12 | [22:04] |
| sbp_ | its 8.1 yah
it says boot: | [22:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | hmm. that sounds like it gets all the way to stage1 without the stage0 selection
or whatever those stages are called as in, you're already bootted from the hard drive, but the next stage isn't there | [22:04] |
| sbp_ | i can hit enter, but then it just boots my old install | [22:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | I don't have a machine I can play with
unfortunately. :) or I'd try it for you when I hit F12, it asks me quickly where to boot that's still in the bios (in virtual box) so your F12 isn't making it all the way | [22:05] |
| sbp_ | yah i think i might try on windows or something | [22:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | wait... why aren't you using the native keyboard? | [22:07] |
| sbp_ | well its a pieced machine
mac mini windows keyboard | [22:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh... go into the preferences for keyboard
select "f1 is really f1" or whatever it's called then f12 will stop bringing up expose or widgets or whatever it is | [22:08] |
| sbp_ | ok | [22:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | keyboard pref pane... "keyboard" subpane
see "use all F1, F2 as standard function keys" | [22:09] |
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| RandalSchwartz | did that help? | [22:11] |
| I guess we'll never know. :)
root oops :) wrong window. good thing I didn't automatucally type my password too :) | [22:17] | |
| sbp_ | i dont have that option | [22:22] |
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| sbp_ | but 100 reboots and keep pressing the same three ctrl/win/alt keys + f12 did
not knowning which one really needs pressed | [22:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | Uh wait
what are you pressing ctrl/win/alt for? | [22:26] |
| sbp_ | cause f12 wont do anything besides boot from hdd
but one of those 3 plus f12 will on a windows keyboard but osx | [22:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | but you're booting using the web console, or the "b" command on the virtual console, right?
"power down"... wait a bit... "power on" | [22:27] |
| sbp_ | no chicken of the vnc
it just got done installing so one of those f12 combinations let me pick 3 for cd | [22:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | uh ... we're talking across each other here.
you use chicken of the VNC to *see* the console but you have to use another connection (or the web interface) to powerdown/powerup | [22:28] |
| sbp_ | oh well i just reinstalled via it
lol yah i power it down then hurry up and get vnc ready boot | [22:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok - I was thinking you were trying to use the win key for that | [22:29] |
| sbp_ | login via vnc
yah now i just gotta find the network settings in an old email and ill be golden ;d | [22:29] |
| RandalSchwartz | the net settings are also on your web page | [22:29] |
| sbp_ | cool
founde em.. thanks | [22:30] |
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