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Cr4zi3 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) dxtr: Guys
What standard says each subnet size should be /64? RandalSchwartz: for v6?
with a /64, you can use a mechanical MAC-address-to-IP-address scheme
that's why a /64
no need for DHCP that way dxtr: RandalSchwartz: Right :)
also, election today
I'm considering voting for a white power-party or something like that for the lols
Yes, I take this very seriously mike-burns: You could vote for a candidate with principles you support, for the lulz.
They tend to have no chance of winning. dxtr: :p mike-burns: (They do for me, anyway.) dxtr: I will vote for something for the lulz every election (If I even vote) until one can vote over the internet or something here
We have cheap high-speed connections to almost every home here, yet we can't even vote electronically
That sucks mike-burns: Yes, this is the problem with the political system. Once this is fixed, the elections will have no issues. dxtr: Exactly! The one of the issues being I have to actually go outside to vote
And one*
I wanna be able to sit/lie in my bed, click a button and think "I just saved the world" RandalSchwartz: Arrrrgh.
... http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ dxtr: Vote like a pirate
Hmm.. That wasn't even funny considering we have the Pirate Party
No.. Now I'll go outside -: dxtr shrugs dxtr: Anyway.. So long and thanks for all the fish ***: Hien has joined #arpnetworks
ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) mike-burns: 12:20:16 < Hien> How long you have used arpnetworks vps?
Hien: About a year now.
12:21:02 < Hien> Arpnetworks provide vps fast?
Hien: I have to go but someone else in here can help you. ***: nukeAFK has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
mike-burns has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) RandalSchwartz: provisionin' my new arrrrrrrrrpnetworks box, arrrrr
box #4 now
well, virtual box. :) Hien: :d ***: phlux- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons RandalSchwartz: booted the cdrom arrrrr ***: BeBoo_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) Hien: :D RandalSchwartz: now to follow the instructions for zfs-boot-on-root Hien: @RandalSchwartz: You have got new box arp vps ?
:D ***: Hien has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)
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box # 4
boxes 1, 2, 3 already humming along
now installing freebsd 8.1 on a zfs-on-root
from the cd nesta: good luck! RandalSchwartz: it's only the tenth time or so that I've done it :)
I'm finally starting to understand the steps, actually :) ***: nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: ssh key set up. dns pointing at right place
now "portsnap fetch extract" to get the freshest ports
then install portmaster :)
I know this drill well
and then screen, zsh, and emacs
which all take a while
and finally, apache, which is the whole point of this
wow - I have to install Perl to install zsh? :)
these dependencies are always interesting :) ***: zhujiale has joined #arpnetworks zhujiale: hello! RandalSchwartz: hi! zhujiale: I was wondering if NetBSD actualy worked OK with arpnetwork's VPSes RandalSchwartz: it should
using qemu, so no virtualization support required
you can boot practically anything fink_: RandalSchwartz: dos? RandalSchwartz: I suspect so zhujiale: yeah, but I remember back then, they tried adding it as an option for new VPSes, but gave up due to strange kernel panics
anyway I'll try it ~_~ RandalSchwartz: virtual machine panics, or did it burn the outer host?
why netbsd and not freebsd? zhujiale: I think VM panics. (thank god)
I'm much more familiar with netbsd, it feels like home. right now using freebsd, and actualy have no complaints ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: I transitioned from openbsd to freebsd 9 months ago
couldn't be happier :) zhujiale: yeah, FreeBSD is very well made I find. I was surprised actualy, having never touched it. I might very well keep it. RandalSchwartz: can you use zfs for / on netbsd?
I'm finding that to be a great asset
zfs + pf firewall + an up-to-date ports system in freebsd zhujiale: yeah... and freebsd-update
FreeBSD is great, I'm loving it. I should get a second vps to play around then :)
can you get a second vps and have it use your current IP ranges? RandalSchwartz: yup fink_: zhujiale: you can also use jails RandalSchwartz: insightcruises.com now has 3 boxes in the same range
interbox traffic doesn't count against your bandwidth, either ***: schmir has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns RandalSchwartz: yeay... webserver mostly configured nesta: w00t RandalSchwartz: so we have a $20 server for mail and DNS, a $30 server for basic web, and a $60 server for heavy mod_perl and postgres up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: for the record, we never tried netbsd; i think zhujiale is mixing me up with someone else RandalSchwartz: ok nesta: up_the_irons: you have never had a NetBSD request? up_the_irons: nesta: no, i *have* had NetBSD requests; but not very many. just not enough time to do everything i want to do nesta: okay
so you had requests. has anyone actually used NetBSD with you guys? up_the_irons: nesta: not that i know of nesta: ah okay up_the_irons: i'm more than happy to put a NetBSD ISO into the CD-ROM for anyone; but they are on their own after that RandalSchwartz: up_the_irons - there are *two* cdroms on my new box... luckily, freebsd 8.1 was the first disk. :)
what is the other one? ***: fink_ has quit IRC (Quit: fink_)
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nachoes has left infrared: mmm nachos up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: that's a kvm bug i think; all VMs show two CD-ROMs, but they are identical infrared: up_the_irons: ever thought about vmware esxi? up_the_irons: infrared: never infrared: why not? up_the_irons: why?
bloat, proprietary, need i say more? infrared: i guess dxtr: I'd say avoid VMware at all costs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11360495 o bob^^: i agree, avoid vmware
performance is Not Good (tm) dxtr: Anyway, I'm off for the night now
I'll have to get up at 05:00
That's in 3h50m
So... Yeah.. Good night :) jdoe: bob^^: heh, it's hands down better than kvm. bob^^: really?
i've found it's disk performance to be horrible (and i'm not alone in that) jdoe: virtualized disk is always going to be horrible (unless you give it direct access to something, I guess)
... but even there it benches better. Heh. bob^^: true, but even with 'direct' access i've still be unimpressed
i like vmware for the desktop, though virtualbox is pretty fine these days jdoe: the problem with vmware, the real problem with it, is that you have to shell out a lot of money to make esx/esxi/vsphere/whatever not suck (the management/admin crap)
... but it's a bit of a moot point, kvm, vbox etc. don't even compete in that space.
... so, you know... ***: zhujiale has joined #arpnetworks
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zhujiale has joined #arpnetworks zhujiale: hi there RandalSchwartz: hi
##smalltalk
oops fink_: heehaw zhujiale: a few hours ago, I barely knew what :: standed for in an IPv6 address
now, I'm going to bed as a Sage RandalSchwartz: and now you have full v6 connectivity? :)
oh cool
I have my sage too zhujiale: :-p
I did it for the tshirt! RandalSchwartz: I stopped at 1024 points
not aiming for 1500
1024 sounds more fun zhujiale: indeed RandalSchwartz: ... http://ipv6.he.net/certification/scoresheet.php?pass_name=merlyn
and I *do* have my t-shirt, and have worn it :) zhujiale: oh lucky you
my score is way low though RandalSchwartz: you? - http://ipv6.he.net/certification/scoresheet.php?pass_name=zhujiale zhujiale: yeah RandalSchwartz: you didn't fill out your t-shirt! zhujiale: silly me... the only part of it all I actualy care for :-p
now to google what US sizes actualy mean ***: Hien has joined #arpnetworks
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