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| dxtr | Guys
What standard says each subnet size should be /64? | [07:31] |
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| RandalSchwartz | for v6?
with a /64, you can use a mechanical MAC-address-to-IP-address scheme that's why a /64 no need for DHCP that way | [07:49] |
| dxtr | RandalSchwartz: Right :)
also, election today I'm considering voting for a white power-party or something like that for the lols Yes, I take this very seriously | [07:58] |
| mike-burns | You could vote for a candidate with principles you support, for the lulz.
They tend to have no chance of winning. | [08:00] |
| dxtr | :p | [08:01] |
| mike-burns | (They do for me, anyway.) | [08:01] |
| dxtr | I will vote for something for the lulz every election (If I even vote) until one can vote over the internet or something here
We have cheap high-speed connections to almost every home here, yet we can't even vote electronically That sucks | [08:02] |
| mike-burns | Yes, this is the problem with the political system. Once this is fixed, the elections will have no issues. | [08:03] |
| dxtr | Exactly! The one of the issues being I have to actually go outside to vote
And one* I wanna be able to sit/lie in my bed, click a button and think "I just saved the world" | [08:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | Arrrrgh.
... http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ | [08:05] |
| dxtr | Vote like a pirate
Hmm.. That wasn't even funny considering we have the Pirate Party No.. Now I'll go outside dxtr shrugs Anyway.. So long and thanks for all the fish | [08:06] |
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| mike-burns | 12:20:16 < Hien> How long you have used arpnetworks vps?
Hien: About a year now. 12:21:02 < Hien> Arpnetworks provide vps fast? Hien: I have to go but someone else in here can help you. | [09:17] |
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| RandalSchwartz | provisionin' my new arrrrrrrrrpnetworks box, arrrrr
box #4 now well, virtual box. :) | [09:43] |
| Hien | :d | [09:44] |
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| RandalSchwartz | now to wipe the disk, arrrrr. | [09:47] |
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| Hien | :D | [09:48] |
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| RandalSchwartz | booted the cdrom arrrrr | [09:48] |
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| Hien | :D | [09:49] |
| RandalSchwartz | now to follow the instructions for zfs-boot-on-root | [09:49] |
| Hien | @RandalSchwartz: You have got new box arp vps ?
:D | [09:49] |
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| RandalSchwartz | I do
box # 4 boxes 1, 2, 3 already humming along now installing freebsd 8.1 on a zfs-on-root from the cd | [09:57] |
| nesta | good luck! | [09:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's only the tenth time or so that I've done it :)
I'm finally starting to understand the steps, actually :) | [09:58] |
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| RandalSchwartz | ssh key set up. dns pointing at right place
now "portsnap fetch extract" to get the freshest ports then install portmaster :) I know this drill well and then screen, zsh, and emacs which all take a while and finally, apache, which is the whole point of this | [10:25] |
| wow - I have to install Perl to install zsh? :)
these dependencies are always interesting :) | [10:40] | |
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| zhujiale | hello! | [10:44] |
| RandalSchwartz | hi! | [10:44] |
| zhujiale | I was wondering if NetBSD actualy worked OK with arpnetwork's VPSes | [10:45] |
| RandalSchwartz | it should
using qemu, so no virtualization support required you can boot practically anything | [10:45] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: dos? | [10:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | I suspect so | [10:46] |
| zhujiale | yeah, but I remember back then, they tried adding it as an option for new VPSes, but gave up due to strange kernel panics
anyway I'll try it ~_~ | [10:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | virtual machine panics, or did it burn the outer host?
why netbsd and not freebsd? | [10:47] |
| zhujiale | I think VM panics. (thank god)
I'm much more familiar with netbsd, it feels like home. right now using freebsd, and actualy have no complaints | [10:47] |
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| RandalSchwartz | I transitioned from openbsd to freebsd 9 months ago
couldn't be happier :) | [10:49] |
| zhujiale | yeah, FreeBSD is very well made I find. I was surprised actualy, having never touched it. I might very well keep it. | [10:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | can you use zfs for / on netbsd?
I'm finding that to be a great asset zfs + pf firewall + an up-to-date ports system in freebsd | [10:50] |
| zhujiale | yeah... and freebsd-update
FreeBSD is great, I'm loving it. I should get a second vps to play around then :) can you get a second vps and have it use your current IP ranges? | [10:52] |
| RandalSchwartz | yup | [10:55] |
| fink_ | zhujiale: you can also use jails | [10:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | insightcruises.com now has 3 boxes in the same range
interbox traffic doesn't count against your bandwidth, either | [10:55] |
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| RandalSchwartz | yeay... webserver mostly configured | [13:33] |
| nesta | w00t | [13:37] |
| RandalSchwartz | so we have a $20 server for mail and DNS, a $30 server for basic web, and a $60 server for heavy mod_perl and postgres | [13:39] |
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| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: for the record, we never tried netbsd; i think zhujiale is mixing me up with someone else | [13:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok | [13:54] |
| nesta | up_the_irons: you have never had a NetBSD request? | [13:55] |
| up_the_irons | nesta: no, i *have* had NetBSD requests; but not very many. just not enough time to do everything i want to do | [13:56] |
| nesta | okay
so you had requests. has anyone actually used NetBSD with you guys? | [13:57] |
| up_the_irons | nesta: not that i know of | [13:58] |
| nesta | ah okay | [13:58] |
| up_the_irons | i'm more than happy to put a NetBSD ISO into the CD-ROM for anyone; but they are on their own after that | [13:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | up_the_irons - there are *two* cdroms on my new box... luckily, freebsd 8.1 was the first disk. :)
what is the other one? | [14:05] |
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| infrared | mmm nachos | [15:19] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: that's a kvm bug i think; all VMs show two CD-ROMs, but they are identical | [15:21] |
| infrared | up_the_irons: ever thought about vmware esxi? | [15:22] |
| up_the_irons | infrared: never | [15:22] |
| infrared | why not? | [15:22] |
| up_the_irons | why?
bloat, proprietary, need i say more? | [15:22] |
| infrared | i guess | [15:22] |
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| dxtr | I'd say avoid VMware at all costs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11360495 o | [15:44] |
| bob^^ | i agree, avoid vmware
performance is Not Good (tm) | [15:56] |
| dxtr | Anyway, I'm off for the night now
I'll have to get up at 05:00 That's in 3h50m So... Yeah.. Good night :) | [16:08] |
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| jdoe | bob^^: heh, it's hands down better than kvm. | [16:23] |
| bob^^ | really?
i've found it's disk performance to be horrible (and i'm not alone in that) | [16:23] |
| jdoe | virtualized disk is always going to be horrible (unless you give it direct access to something, I guess)
... but even there it benches better. Heh. | [16:24] |
| bob^^ | true, but even with 'direct' access i've still be unimpressed
i like vmware for the desktop, though virtualbox is pretty fine these days | [16:24] |
| jdoe | the problem with vmware, the real problem with it, is that you have to shell out a lot of money to make esx/esxi/vsphere/whatever not suck (the management/admin crap)
... but it's a bit of a moot point, kvm, vbox etc. don't even compete in that space. ... so, you know... | [16:25] |
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| zhujiale | hi there | [20:11] |
| RandalSchwartz | hi
##smalltalk oops | [20:12] |
| fink_ | heehaw | [20:13] |
| zhujiale | a few hours ago, I barely knew what :: standed for in an IPv6 address
now, I'm going to bed as a Sage | [20:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | and now you have full v6 connectivity? :)
oh cool I have my sage too | [20:15] |
| zhujiale | :-p
I did it for the tshirt! | [20:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | I stopped at 1024 points
not aiming for 1500 1024 sounds more fun | [20:15] |
| zhujiale | indeed | [20:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... http://ipv6.he.net/certification/scoresheet.php?pass_name=merlyn
and I *do* have my t-shirt, and have worn it :) | [20:16] |
| zhujiale | oh lucky you
my score is way low though | [20:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | you? - http://ipv6.he.net/certification/scoresheet.php?pass_name=zhujiale | [20:17] |
| zhujiale | yeah | [20:18] |
| RandalSchwartz | you didn't fill out your t-shirt! | [20:18] |
| zhujiale | silly me... the only part of it all I actualy care for :-p
now to google what US sizes actualy mean | [20:20] |
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