hello Hello. up_the_irons: I don't mean to be to stressing or anything, but I'd love it if my ssh key could be added to the console server as soon as possible ~_~ thanks :-p zjl999: if you mailed it to support@ or opened a ticket .. that ought to do it toddf: yeah, I guess I'm just an impatient guy :) well, 'round here its not EC2 .. you get true KVM with amazingly low rates, that comes to us via not a large staff that does batches of things instead of instant responses.. things will get more automated over time I suspect, the reboots of the system for example used to be a support request and serial console didn't exist when I first showed up "back in the day" :) yeah - figure 48 hours for everything. then you'll be pleased if it's sooner ok. i hope I didn't 'sound' unpleased, because that's really not the case :) I'm new so bare with me for a while :-p "bear" not "bare". I'm not getting naked with you. :) :) toddf: i love your explanation of the situation, i should put it on the website somewhere ;) zjl999: i can't promise i'll get to that within the next few hours; i generally do all my support requests at night (so later this evening, it'll be done) thanks ok, since I can't get the server to work properly, I have to cancel my server.. after 4 days.. yeah! Cr4zi3: what's your issue? hm, if I want to do a fresh reinstall with FBSD 8.1, do i just fire an email off to support ? (I think 8.0 is still in the virtual cd drive) lucky: it is so just go ahead and do it in the console i have hrm? you need the cd in the drive to do an .. oh, a reinstall. jdoe: you can do a reinstall from the cd in the drive fink_: yeah, I missed the reinstall part, for some reason I read it as upgrade... fink_; Sorry just got home from work.. psyBNC crashes everytime someone connects to it, giving a blowfish init error Anyone have an idea the best way to manage packages across a cluster or should I install the apps on a NFS share and never install anything from packages up_the_irons are you using Ubuntu or Debian? ballen: i think he said he likes openbsd yea not for the under lying OS, behind KVM that is at least for Arp's setup obviously BSD is better I just need to decide on the "best" Linux for production environment, I can't deal with Redhat's old ass versions of everything anymore options so far are SUSE Ent Linux, or Ubuntu Server LTS close enough to bleeding edge, but still stable plus Canonical has a nifty "Landscape" web app that solves another problem of mine to maintain environment wide system updates ballen: i've used ubuntu lts, it's not bad not as nice as freebsd by any means indeed I have an issue of a number of applications I have to support needs Linux so its not worth moving to FreeBSD ballen: they can't run in freebsd's linux compat layer? ballen: i can't remember hte last time i ran across a linux app that doesn't run on freebsd likely with enough effort, but in a production env thats a hard sell to the rest of my team ballen: commercial stuff? some yea some open some just closed source projects from collaborators ballen: what about suse? not a fan never had really liked the OS because of Yast yea, one of those eurotrash distros heh no reason to pay for it as its nothing special or mandrivel we're a huge RHEL shop, so we already pay for it oh hell no i keed ballen: if you're already used to rh, why not use fedora? I don't like Rehat Redhat I only use it because we have enterprise wide support for it well i like yum yea its fine RPM's are worthless for custom stuff deb's aren't much better though FreeBSD ports are amazing for custom same for ArchLinux Pacman ArchLinux is too bleeding edge though going to rattle enough doors but recommending Ubuntu of all things... by* gl heh, will have to certify all these damn apps on it its amazing how much you grow to love dev's you release statically compiled versions of their applications in this field who* k brb, need to pull down my repo of all the apps so I can test in a VM