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[07:26] <Hien> hello
[07:29] <mhoran> Hello.
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[09:43] <zjl999> up_the_irons: I don't mean to be to stressing or anything, but I'd love it if my ssh key could be added to the console server as soon as possible ~_~ thanks :-p
[09:58] <toddf> zjl999: if you mailed it to support@ or opened a ticket .. that ought to do it
[09:59] <zjl999> toddf: yeah, I guess I'm just an impatient guy :)
[10:03] <toddf> well, 'round here its not EC2 .. you get true KVM with amazingly low rates, that comes to us via not a large staff that does batches of things instead of instant responses.. things will get more automated over time I suspect, the reboots of the system for example used to be a support request and serial console didn't exist when I first showed up
[10:16] <RandalSchwartz> "back in the day" :)
[10:17] <RandalSchwartz> yeah - figure 48 hours for everything.  then you'll be pleased if it's sooner
[10:22] <zjl999> ok. i hope I didn't 'sound' unpleased, because that's really not the case :) I'm new so bare with me for a while :-p
[10:25] <RandalSchwartz> "bear"
[10:25] <RandalSchwartz> not "bare".  I'm not getting naked with you. :)
[10:32] <zjl999> :)
[10:57] <up_the_irons> toddf: i love your explanation of the situation, i should put it on the website somewhere ;)
[10:58] <up_the_irons> zjl999: i can't promise i'll get to that within the next few hours; i generally do all my support requests at night (so later this evening, it'll be done)
[11:01] <zjl999> thanks
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[12:16] <Cr4zi3> ok, since I can't get the server to work properly, I have to cancel my server.. after 4 days..
[12:16] <Cr4zi3> yeah!
[12:22] <fink_> Cr4zi3: what's your issue?
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[15:25] <lucky> hm, if I want to do a fresh reinstall with FBSD 8.1, do i just fire an email off to support ?
[15:25] <lucky> (I think 8.0 is still in the virtual cd drive)
[15:29] <fink_> lucky: it is
[15:29] <fink_> so just go ahead and do it in the console
[15:29] <fink_> i have
[15:32] <lucky> hrm?
[15:46] <jdoe> you need the cd in the drive to do an .. oh, a reinstall.
[15:58] <fink_> jdoe: you can do a reinstall from the cd in the drive
[15:59] <jdoe> fink_: yeah, I missed the reinstall part, for some reason I read it as upgrade...
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[17:31] <Cr4zi3> fink_; Sorry just got home from work..
[17:31] <Cr4zi3> psyBNC crashes everytime someone connects to it, giving a blowfish init error
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[19:00] <ballen> Anyone have an idea the best way to manage packages across a cluster
[19:00] <ballen> or should I install the apps on a NFS share
[19:02] <ballen> and never install anything from packages
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[21:24] <ballen> up_the_irons are you using Ubuntu or Debian?
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[21:36] <fink_> ballen: i think he said he likes openbsd
[21:36] <ballen> yea not for the under lying OS, behind KVM that is
[21:36] <ballen> at least for Arp's setup
[21:36] <ballen> obviously BSD is better
[21:37] <ballen> I just need to decide on the "best" Linux
[21:37] <ballen> for production environment, I can't deal with Redhat's old ass versions of everything anymore
[21:37] <ballen> options so far are SUSE Ent Linux, or Ubuntu Server LTS
[21:38] <ballen> close enough to bleeding edge, but still stable
[21:39] <ballen> plus Canonical has a nifty "Landscape" web app
[21:40] <ballen> that solves another problem of mine to maintain environment wide system updates
[21:48] <fink_> ballen: i've used ubuntu lts, it's not bad
[21:48] <fink_> not as nice as freebsd by any means
[21:48] <ballen> indeed
[21:48] <ballen> I have an issue of a number of applications I have to support needs Linux
[21:49] <ballen> so its not worth moving to FreeBSD
[21:49] <fink_> ballen: they can't run in freebsd's linux compat layer?
[21:49] <fink_> ballen: i can't remember hte last time i ran across a linux app that doesn't run on freebsd
[21:49] <ballen> likely with enough effort, but in a production env thats a hard sell to the rest of my team
[21:49] <fink_> ballen: commercial stuff?
[21:50] <ballen> some yea
[21:50] <ballen> some open
[21:50] <ballen> some just closed source projects from collaborators
[21:50] <fink_> ballen: what about suse?
[21:50] <ballen> not a fan
[21:50] <ballen> never had really liked the OS
[21:50] <ballen> because of Yast
[21:50] <fink_> yea, one of those eurotrash distros
[21:50] <ballen> heh
[21:50] <ballen> no reason to pay for it
[21:51] <ballen> as its nothing special
[21:51] <fink_> or mandrivel
[21:51] <ballen> we're a huge RHEL shop, so we already pay for it
[21:51] <ballen> oh hell no
[21:51] <fink_> i keed
[21:51] <fink_> ballen: if you're already used to rh, why not use fedora?
[21:52] <ballen> I don't like Rehat
[21:52] <ballen> Redhat
[21:52] <ballen> I only use it because we have enterprise wide support for it
[21:52] <fink_> well i like yum
[21:52] <ballen> yea its fine
[21:52] <ballen> RPM's are worthless
[21:52] <ballen> for custom stuff
[21:52] <ballen> deb's aren't much better though
[21:52] <ballen> FreeBSD ports are amazing for custom
[21:53] <ballen> same for ArchLinux Pacman
[21:53] <ballen> ArchLinux is too bleeding edge though
[21:54] <ballen> going to rattle enough doors but recommending Ubuntu of all things...
[21:54] <ballen> by*
[21:55] <fink_> gl
[21:55] <ballen> heh, will have to certify all these damn apps on it
[21:58] <ballen> its amazing how much you grow to love dev's you release statically compiled versions of their applications in this field
[21:58] <ballen> who*
[22:00] <ballen> k brb, need to pull down my repo of all the apps so I can test in a VM
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