#arpnetworks 2010-09-17,Fri

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Hienhello [07:26]
mhoranHello. [07:29]
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zjl999up_the_irons: I don't mean to be to stressing or anything, but I'd love it if my ssh key could be added to the console server as soon as possible ~_~ thanks :-p [09:43]
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toddfzjl999: if you mailed it to support@ or opened a ticket .. that ought to do it [09:58]
zjl999toddf: yeah, I guess I'm just an impatient guy :) [09:59]
toddfwell, 'round here its not EC2 .. you get true KVM with amazingly low rates, that comes to us via not a large staff that does batches of things instead of instant responses.. things will get more automated over time I suspect, the reboots of the system for example used to be a support request and serial console didn't exist when I first showed up [10:03]
RandalSchwartz"back in the day" :)
yeah - figure 48 hours for everything. then you'll be pleased if it's sooner
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zjl999ok. i hope I didn't 'sound' unpleased, because that's really not the case :) I'm new so bare with me for a while :-p [10:22]
RandalSchwartz"bear"
not "bare". I'm not getting naked with you. :)
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zjl999:) [10:32]
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up_the_ironstoddf: i love your explanation of the situation, i should put it on the website somewhere ;)
zjl999: i can't promise i'll get to that within the next few hours; i generally do all my support requests at night (so later this evening, it'll be done)
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zjl999thanks [11:01]
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Cr4zi3ok, since I can't get the server to work properly, I have to cancel my server.. after 4 days..
yeah!
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fink_Cr4zi3: what's your issue? [12:22]
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luckyhm, if I want to do a fresh reinstall with FBSD 8.1, do i just fire an email off to support ?
(I think 8.0 is still in the virtual cd drive)
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fink_lucky: it is
so just go ahead and do it in the console
i have
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luckyhrm? [15:32]
jdoeyou need the cd in the drive to do an .. oh, a reinstall. [15:46]
fink_jdoe: you can do a reinstall from the cd in the drive [15:58]
jdoefink_: yeah, I missed the reinstall part, for some reason I read it as upgrade... [15:59]
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Cr4zi3fink_; Sorry just got home from work..
psyBNC crashes everytime someone connects to it, giving a blowfish init error
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ballenAnyone have an idea the best way to manage packages across a cluster
or should I install the apps on a NFS share
and never install anything from packages
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ballenup_the_irons are you using Ubuntu or Debian? [21:24]
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fink_ballen: i think he said he likes openbsd [21:36]
ballenyea not for the under lying OS, behind KVM that is
at least for Arp's setup
obviously BSD is better
I just need to decide on the "best" Linux
for production environment, I can't deal with Redhat's old ass versions of everything anymore
options so far are SUSE Ent Linux, or Ubuntu Server LTS
close enough to bleeding edge, but still stable
plus Canonical has a nifty "Landscape" web app
that solves another problem of mine to maintain environment wide system updates
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fink_ballen: i've used ubuntu lts, it's not bad
not as nice as freebsd by any means
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ballenindeed
I have an issue of a number of applications I have to support needs Linux
so its not worth moving to FreeBSD
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fink_ballen: they can't run in freebsd's linux compat layer?
ballen: i can't remember hte last time i ran across a linux app that doesn't run on freebsd
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ballenlikely with enough effort, but in a production env thats a hard sell to the rest of my team [21:49]
fink_ballen: commercial stuff? [21:49]
ballensome yea
some open
some just closed source projects from collaborators
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fink_ballen: what about suse? [21:50]
ballennot a fan
never had really liked the OS
because of Yast
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fink_yea, one of those eurotrash distros [21:50]
ballenheh
no reason to pay for it
as its nothing special
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fink_or mandrivel [21:51]
ballenwe're a huge RHEL shop, so we already pay for it
oh hell no
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fink_i keed
ballen: if you're already used to rh, why not use fedora?
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ballenI don't like Rehat
Redhat
I only use it because we have enterprise wide support for it
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fink_well i like yum [21:52]
ballenyea its fine
RPM's are worthless
for custom stuff
deb's aren't much better though
FreeBSD ports are amazing for custom
same for ArchLinux Pacman
ArchLinux is too bleeding edge though
going to rattle enough doors but recommending Ubuntu of all things...
by*
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fink_gl [21:55]
ballenheh, will have to certify all these damn apps on it
its amazing how much you grow to love dev's you release statically compiled versions of their applications in this field
who*
k brb, need to pull down my repo of all the apps so I can test in a VM
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