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up_the_irons: it's weird, how despite consistent growth of my customer base within the last 18 months, _this channel_ topped out at about 50 users
has something to do with communities and size.. someone has a theory on that
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up_the_irons: cd $bed
bob^^: irc seems to be less popular than in the past
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toddf: up_the_irons: definately interesting wrt the 50 users on irc vs consistent growth of customer base; I see new faces here all the time *grin* .. perhaps some arrive and stay only long enough to get setup and/or a simple question or two answered, some of us enjoy the banter?? ;-)
bob^^: yeah :)
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RandalSchwartz: up_the_irons - do you have an outbound email proxy that I can use so I can send to google apps?
I could also just proxy stonehenge mail through mabel... I tested, and mabel isn't tainted.
oh, he's probably not awake yet. :)
I have to be because I'm enroute to LAX
nesta: mh hm
RandalSchwartz: "mh hm"?
nesta: yep, mh hm
RandalSchwartz: what does that translate to?
nesta: say it out loud
and put it in context
RandalSchwartz: doesn't map
nesta: ah well then
parse error I guess
RandalSchwartz: uh huh would
as in, agreee
but I've never used "mh hm" as sounds
are you not native english?
nesta: 'uh huh' is quite an American colloquialism imo
RandalSchwartz: so where do they say "mh hm"?
nesta: where I live :)
RandalSchwartz: not here
yeah. so if you want to communicate, best not to use it.
since it is regional
nesta: as is 'uh huh'
RandalSchwartz: indeed, which is why I don't use that
nesta: I use what makes sense to me
okey
well I don't much mind as you can see
RandalSchwartz: communication is about making sense to the *other person* though
not just to yourself
nesta: sure
we are communicating now
RandalSchwartz: only after 11 clarification statements. :)
if you'd just said "yes", this could have been avoided.
nesta: it gave us something to chat about
:P
sheath: lol
hi nerdd
er
hi nesta
nesta: hi
RandalSchwartz: it's like I finally figured out what "jaja" was.
or even "ta"
lots of regional english used
makes it a bit hard to presume you'll be understood unless you use full versions
sheath: dunno what ta is
RandalSchwartz: it's british/oz
short of "ta ta"
bob^^: no, it's not 'ta ta'
RandalSchwartz: as in "thanks, and good bye"
bob^^: it's 'thanks'
no one says ta ta over here ;)
RandalSchwartz: oh - well that's how it was explained
and I've just barely woken up
bob^^: in aus they might though, lots of rough similarities
tbh, it depends where in the UK
RandalSchwartz: but ta is used in uk and oz
but not in the us
nesta: its just ta
sheath: so confusing
bob^^: for a tiny country we have a lot of very regional language use
nesta: only posh idiots would say ta ta
RandalSchwartz: so when someone says it on IRC, I can peg them
bob^^: a bread roll has about six different names, depending on which part of the country you're in :)
nesta: amirite bob^^
:)
bob^^: nesta: +1 ;)
nesta: ;)
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bob^^: tbh, i'd *hate* to have to learn english
RandalSchwartz: tbh?
sheath: you're speaking it right now?
bob^^: well yes, i'm from the UK so it's my native language
i mean, if you were not a native english speaker it must be a very complex language to learn
RandalSchwartz: yeah - I'm having fun learning both ES and PT_BR
and yet they seem far simpler than the exception rules for english
ziyourenxiang: they're all turing complete... oh wait.
bob^^: even spanish changes depending on where you are in the world :(
RandalSchwartz: letters with only one pronunciation! how the hell does *that* work? :)
bob^^: ;D
RandalSchwartz: no "through cough bough"
bob^^: to, two and too
is my favourite :)
or leak and leek
RandalSchwartz: well - not homonyms... that's mappable
but the letters that pronounce differently
bob^^: difficult when you're learning how to speak a language though
RandalSchwartz: even things like "record" and "record" :)
bob^^: mmm, yeah :)
RandalSchwartz: or "wind" and "wind" :)
bob^^: yeah
toddf: I thought 'jaja' was a german thing
RandalSchwartz: spanish to
too
bob^^: hell, i know some native english speakers who still get things wrong
RandalSchwartz: pronounced "ya ya"
since j is like y
in fact, it's probably the literation of our ya ya
bob^^: yeah
RandalSchwartz: rather than a native thing
bob^^: i think it is
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coil_: looks like my box got rooted
can i request a format? :/
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bob^^: husky: yup, i'm pretty sure you can have your box 'factory defaulted' by up_the_irons - but you need to raise a support ticket i think
ziyourenxiang: wanna share your OS, what got exploited?
so the rest of us can look out for it.
husky: well its probably the mbuf exploit
wget http://popol.by.ru/log.c
and whatever that is
next time im only going to trust friends on my box :/
instead of that trading shell bullshit
bob^^: looks like it's a tool to remove what you've been doing from logs
:(
and from accounting, etc
husky: now i gotta remember my portal password
cept my dns is down so i can't check my email
doh
whats the point of secondary dns if it dont even work
dxtr: RandalSchwartz: "ja ja" means "yes yes" in swedish :D
husky: hopefully a rootkit doesn't work in init1
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schmir: ja ja means "leck mich am arsch" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch
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up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: i don't have an outbound email proxy, sorry
coil: i can reset your vps, just open a support ticket
toddf: yeah, probably
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dxtr: up_the_irons: You're using greylisting with postfix, right?
up_the_irons: dxtr: no, i use openbsd's spamd for greylisting
dxtr: Oh yeah
toddf: <-- is using openbsd's spamd for all inbound tcp connections that aren't destined for active services
(just for kicks and giggles)
dxtr: hehe
Maybe I should try that
awyeah: yo!
toddf: dxtr: http://pastebin.ca/1940832
hmm, let me tidy that a bit
dxtr: :D
toddf: better: http://pastebin.ca/1940835
line 6 is redundant until you realize I want to put mail in queue mail and !mail not in queue mail
husky: up_the_irons, i sent an email but i just realised that domain's dns was hosted off of my arp box, so i dont know if you got the email
toddf: husky: maybe check the logs?
husky: what logs? the box is out of comission
toddf: ah, heh
husky: although i use google apps for my email, the dns isn't set right
so i know i wont be able to receive email
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dxtr: Anyone here playing minecraft? :P
RandalSchwartz: on company time? :)
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