[00:13] *** coil has quit IRC (Quit: http://znc.in) [00:13] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [01:13] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [01:44] *** boogeyman has joined #arpnetworks [02:00] <up_the_irons> it's weird, how despite consistent growth of my customer base within the last 18 months, _this channel_ topped out at about 50 users [02:01] <up_the_irons> has something to do with communities and size.. someone has a theory on that [02:05] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [02:09] <up_the_irons> cd $bed [02:11] <bob^^> irc seems to be less popular than in the past [02:21] *** LT has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:23] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [02:35] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [03:41] *** nakano_ is now known as nakano [03:58] <toddf> up_the_irons: definately interesting wrt the 50 users on irc vs consistent growth of customer base; I see new faces here all the time *grin* .. perhaps some arrive and stay only long enough to get setup and/or a simple question or two answered, some of us enjoy the banter?? ;-) [04:29] <bob^^> yeah :) [05:07] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:50] <RandalSchwartz> up_the_irons - do you have an outbound email proxy that I can use so I can send to google apps? [05:50] <RandalSchwartz> I could also just proxy stonehenge mail through mabel... I tested, and mabel isn't tainted. [05:51] <RandalSchwartz> oh, he's probably not awake yet. :) [05:51] <RandalSchwartz> I have to be because I'm enroute to LAX [05:52] <nesta> mh hm [05:53] <RandalSchwartz> "mh hm"? [05:53] <nesta> yep, mh hm [05:53] <RandalSchwartz> what does that translate to? [05:53] <nesta> say it out loud [05:53] <nesta> and put it in context [05:54] <RandalSchwartz> doesn't map [05:54] <nesta> ah well then [05:54] <nesta> parse error I guess [05:54] <RandalSchwartz> uh huh would [05:54] <RandalSchwartz> as in, agreee [05:54] <RandalSchwartz> but I've never used "mh hm" as sounds [05:54] <RandalSchwartz> are you not native english? [05:54] <nesta> 'uh huh' is quite an American colloquialism imo [05:54] <RandalSchwartz> so where do they say "mh hm"? [05:55] <nesta> where I live :) [05:55] <RandalSchwartz> not here [05:55] <RandalSchwartz> yeah. so if you want to communicate, best not to use it. [05:55] <RandalSchwartz> since it is regional [05:55] <nesta> as is 'uh huh' [05:55] <RandalSchwartz> indeed, which is why I don't use that [05:55] <nesta> I use what makes sense to me [05:55] <nesta> okey [05:55] <nesta> well I don't much mind as you can see [05:55] <RandalSchwartz> communication is about making sense to the *other person* though [05:55] <RandalSchwartz> not just to yourself [05:56] <nesta> sure [05:56] <nesta> we are communicating now [05:56] <RandalSchwartz> only after 11 clarification statements. :) [05:56] <RandalSchwartz> if you'd just said "yes", this could have been avoided. [05:56] <nesta> it gave us something to chat about [05:56] <nesta> :P [05:56] <sheath> lol [05:56] <sheath> hi nerdd [05:57] <sheath> er [05:57] <sheath> hi nesta [05:57] <nesta> hi [05:57] <RandalSchwartz> it's like I finally figured out what "jaja" was. [05:57] <RandalSchwartz> or even "ta" [05:58] <RandalSchwartz> lots of regional english used [05:58] <RandalSchwartz> makes it a bit hard to presume you'll be understood unless you use full versions [05:58] <sheath> dunno what ta is [05:58] <RandalSchwartz> it's british/oz [05:58] <RandalSchwartz> short of "ta ta" [05:58] <bob^^> no, it's not 'ta ta' [05:58] <RandalSchwartz> as in "thanks, and good bye" [05:58] <bob^^> it's 'thanks' [05:58] <bob^^> no one says ta ta over here ;) [05:58] <RandalSchwartz> oh - well that's how it was explained [05:59] <RandalSchwartz> and I've just barely woken up [05:59] <bob^^> in aus they might though, lots of rough similarities [05:59] <bob^^> tbh, it depends where in the UK [05:59] <RandalSchwartz> but ta is used in uk and oz [05:59] <RandalSchwartz> but not in the us [05:59] <nesta> its just ta [05:59] <sheath> so confusing [05:59] <bob^^> for a tiny country we have a lot of very regional language use [05:59] <nesta> only posh idiots would say ta ta [05:59] <RandalSchwartz> so when someone says it on IRC, I can peg them [05:59] <bob^^> a bread roll has about six different names, depending on which part of the country you're in :) [05:59] <nesta> amirite bob^^ [05:59] <nesta> :) [05:59] <bob^^> nesta: +1 ;) [05:59] <nesta> ;) [06:00] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [06:00] <bob^^> tbh, i'd *hate* to have to learn english [06:01] <RandalSchwartz> tbh? [06:01] <sheath> you're speaking it right now? [06:01] <bob^^> well yes, i'm from the UK so it's my native language [06:01] <bob^^> i mean, if you were not a native english speaker it must be a very complex language to learn [06:02] <RandalSchwartz> yeah - I'm having fun learning both ES and PT_BR [06:02] <RandalSchwartz> and yet they seem far simpler than the exception rules for english [06:02] <ziyourenxiang> they're all turing complete... oh wait. [06:02] <bob^^> even spanish changes depending on where you are in the world :( [06:02] <RandalSchwartz> letters with only one pronunciation! how the hell does *that* work? :) [06:02] <bob^^> ;D [06:02] <RandalSchwartz> no "through cough bough" [06:02] <bob^^> to, two and too [06:03] <bob^^> is my favourite :) [06:03] <bob^^> or leak and leek [06:03] <RandalSchwartz> well - not homonyms... that's mappable [06:03] <RandalSchwartz> but the letters that pronounce differently [06:03] <bob^^> difficult when you're learning how to speak a language though [06:03] <RandalSchwartz> even things like "record" and "record" :) [06:03] <bob^^> mmm, yeah :) [06:03] <RandalSchwartz> or "wind" and "wind" :) [06:04] <bob^^> yeah [06:04] <toddf> I thought 'jaja' was a german thing [06:04] <RandalSchwartz> spanish to [06:04] <RandalSchwartz> too [06:04] <bob^^> hell, i know some native english speakers who still get things wrong [06:04] <RandalSchwartz> pronounced "ya ya" [06:04] <RandalSchwartz> since j is like y [06:04] <RandalSchwartz> in fact, it's probably the literation of our ya ya [06:04] <bob^^> yeah [06:04] <RandalSchwartz> rather than a native thing [06:04] <bob^^> i think it is [08:18] *** sheath has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:18] *** coil_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:18] <coil_> looks like my box got rooted [08:18] <coil_> can i request a format? :/ [08:19] *** coil_ is now known as Guest5882 [08:19] *** Guest5882 is now known as husky [08:19] *** husky has quit IRC (Changing host) [08:19] *** husky has joined #arpnetworks [08:20] <bob^^> husky: yup, i'm pretty sure you can have your box 'factory defaulted' by up_the_irons - but you need to raise a support ticket i think [08:20] <ziyourenxiang> wanna share your OS, what got exploited? [08:20] <ziyourenxiang> so the rest of us can look out for it. [08:20] <husky> well its probably the mbuf exploit [08:21] <husky> wget http://popol.by.ru/log.c [08:21] <husky> and whatever that is [08:22] <husky> next time im only going to trust friends on my box :/ [08:22] <husky> instead of that trading shell bullshit [08:22] <bob^^> looks like it's a tool to remove what you've been doing from logs [08:22] <bob^^> :( [08:22] <bob^^> and from accounting, etc [08:22] <husky> now i gotta remember my portal password [08:26] <husky> cept my dns is down so i can't check my email [08:26] <husky> doh [08:26] <husky> whats the point of secondary dns if it dont even work [08:28] <dxtr> RandalSchwartz: "ja ja" means "yes yes" in swedish :D [08:32] <husky> hopefully a rootkit doesn't work in init1 [09:15] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:21] <schmir> ja ja means "leck mich am arsch" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch [09:26] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [09:30] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:56] *** LucasWilcox has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [09:58] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [10:06] *** _Cr4zi3 has joined #arpnetworks [10:07] *** _Cr4zi3 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:11] *** LucasWilcox has joined #arpnetworks [11:09] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: i don't have an outbound email proxy, sorry [11:10] <up_the_irons> coil: i can reset your vps, just open a support ticket [11:10] <up_the_irons> toddf: yeah, probably [11:10] *** nakano_ is now known as nakano [12:05] <dxtr> up_the_irons: You're using greylisting with postfix, right? [12:05] <up_the_irons> dxtr: no, i use openbsd's spamd for greylisting [12:05] <dxtr> Oh yeah [12:10] <toddf> <-- is using openbsd's spamd for all inbound tcp connections that aren't destined for active services [12:10] <toddf> (just for kicks and giggles) [12:19] <dxtr> hehe [12:20] <dxtr> Maybe I should try that [12:21] <awyeah> yo! [12:27] <toddf> dxtr: http://pastebin.ca/1940832 [12:27] <toddf> hmm, let me tidy that a bit [12:29] <dxtr> :D [12:30] <toddf> better: http://pastebin.ca/1940835 [12:31] <toddf> line 6 is redundant until you realize I want to put mail in queue mail and !mail not in queue mail [13:01] <husky> up_the_irons, i sent an email but i just realised that domain's dns was hosted off of my arp box, so i dont know if you got the email [13:01] <toddf> husky: maybe check the logs? [13:01] <husky> what logs? the box is out of comission [13:02] <toddf> ah, heh [13:02] <husky> although i use google apps for my email, the dns isn't set right [13:02] <husky> so i know i wont be able to receive email [13:17] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [13:18] *** nakano_ is now known as nakano [13:22] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:26] <dxtr> Anyone here playing minecraft? :P [14:36] <RandalSchwartz> on company time? :) [15:02] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [18:22] *** fink_ has joined #arpnetworks [18:31] *** nesta_ has joined #arpnetworks [18:31] *** nesta has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:31] *** nesta_ is now known as nesta [19:02] *** razorluv_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:04] *** razorluv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:05] *** nipuL has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [19:05] *** nipuL has joined #arpnetworks [19:38] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [21:12] *** fink_ has quit IRC (Quit: fink_)