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[07:59] <awyeah_> mornin' folks.
[07:59] <cedwards> morning
[08:00] <BeBoo_> morning
[08:00] <mhoran> Hi.
[08:01] <nesta> howdy doody
[08:13] <awyeah_> just a little portupgrade -a action
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[08:15] <cedwards> portmaster -ad here. bash updates.
[08:16] <BeBoo_> nesta >3
[08:16] <BeBoo_> <3 evemn
[08:16] <BeBoo_> omg
[08:18] <awyeah> ooh portmaster.
[08:19] <awyeah> why do there need to be so many damn port management tools.
[08:19] <awyeah> I do like the pkg_cutleaves tool.
[08:22] * BeBoo_ pokes nesta
[08:25] <nesta> <3 BeBoo_
[08:26] <BeBoo_> why aren't you on BIRC?
[08:27] <BeBoo_> :D
[08:27] <nesta> hehe sorry my client quit
[08:27] <nesta> sec
[08:27] * nesta 
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[18:30] <RandalSchwartz> I wonder what happens if I demand too many shm values during boot
[18:31] <RandalSchwartz> some settings are only valid in /boot/loader.conf
[18:31] <RandalSchwartz> so I have to reboot to set them
[18:31] <RandalSchwartz> (trying to tune for postgresql)
[18:31] <RandalSchwartz> this *is* a big instance, so maybe it's not too critical
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[21:27] <ballen> hello
[21:27] <RandalSchwartz> hello
[21:27] <ballen> how goes it
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[21:33] <jdoe> yo.
[21:35] <ballen> hi
[21:37] <jdoe> what's up?
[21:37] <ballen> not much being bored
[21:37] <ballen> need to write a "mission statement"
[21:38] <ballen> to propose a serverfault.com like website for Life Science sysadms
[21:43] <jdoe> life science sysadms have niche needs?
[21:43] <ballen> indeed
[21:44] <ballen> mainly support the crazy bio apps
[21:44] <ballen> also some HPC, and big mem problems
[21:44] <ballen> supporting instruments as well
[21:46] <jdoe> oh I wasn't really thinking bio as a life science, for whatever reason I was thinking like... psych and shit.
[21:46] <jdoe> yeah, that makes sense.
[21:47] <ballen> ah yea
[21:48] <ballen> on a fun side note, check out the SGI Altix UV100: http://www.sgi.com/products/servers/altix/uv/
[21:48] <jdoe> the life sciences dudes had a... haha
[21:48] <jdoe> yeah I was just going to say, a nice altix.
[21:48] <jdoe> shame they didn't have any actual MIPS gear :(
[21:49] <jdoe> if it's not IRIX, it's not a real SGI :(
[21:49] <ballen> lol
[21:49] <ballen> I need X86 stuff these days
[21:49] <ballen> no one devs for those platforms
[21:49] <jdoe> everyone does, but that's hardly the point
[21:49] <jdoe> er
[21:49] <jdoe> I mean everyone needs x86
[21:49] <ballen> yea
[21:49] <jdoe> dunno what I'd build now.
[21:49] <ballen> bad enough I have new sparc gear
[21:50] <jdoe> if I had an HPC-level budget, jesus what I could buy...
[21:50] <ballen> that UV100 is 1.6M list btw
[21:50] <ballen> as long as your problems fit inside 512G or 1T of ram its still cheaper to use Dell R910s
[21:50] <ballen> and more dense
[21:50] <jdoe> half a million bought ~240 cores with gigE interconnects a couple years ago.
[21:51] <ballen> lets see
[21:51] <jdoe> (with edu pricing)
[21:51] <ballen> buying 5x R910
[21:51] <ballen> 32 core each, 512G
[21:51] <ballen> for under 200k
[21:52] <ballen> so 160 core, 2.5T
[21:52] <jdoe> different target though... this was for a math group, so the problem could be broken up pretty effectively, but was discrete enough that the interconnect didn't matter too much
[21:52] <jdoe> I think we had a gig per core, so 240G
[21:52] <ballen> yea I would love to have parallelizable problems
[21:53] <jdoe> I'd love to have HPC problems again, I miss playing with clusters :/
[21:53] <ballen> yea quite fun
[21:53] <jdoe> yeah it really was.
[21:53] <ballen> Altix looks fun as well
[21:53] <jdoe> especially when I didn't have to worry about power or anything, so I could spin it up on trivial shit in the downtime
[21:53] <ballen> heh
[21:53] <ballen> yea
[21:54] <jdoe> now it's all "HERE ARE A COUPLE WHITEBOXES, INSTALL JAVA. THANKS."
[21:54] <ballen> heh
[21:54] <ballen> thats no fun
[21:58] <pierut> o_O
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[22:29] <ballen> Has anyone seen an open source stackoverflow.com, with a linkable wiki?
[22:30] <ballen> current best option I've seen is http://shapado.com/
[22:48] <jdoe> I could have sworn I saw one...