argh. I somehow managed to get a trojan on my Windows box. I figured I was smarter than that ;) Nice. And I'm pretty sure it's the "capture and redirect all your internet traffic" kind. So now I have to change all my passwords. Awesome! feel free to use a secure os for your desktop and put windows in a vnc/rdp/qemu window so this type of thing doesn't happen again *grin* I do that and never have had that problem since the 90's and in the mid 90's my password reset scenario involved telnet and shairing a dialup modem .. with a previously trusted friend after that ssh looked pretty good Yeah I really need to do all my browsing in a VM with snapshot/undo capabilities. awwwwwyeah That sounds nice.