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[07:13] * RandalSchwartz waits for fink_ to wake up again [07:15] hi RandalSchwartz [07:15] there's a hurricane coming up the coast [07:16] Earl [07:18] east coast, I presume [07:18] "Earl's got to die.... gbye earl!" [07:18] yeah, I'm heading to atlanta... hope that doesn't impinge [07:18] so what do you want to know about my zfs snaps? [07:22] RandalSchwartz: i was wondering how your yml config file is setup [07:22] would pm be better? [07:23] no - just trying to figure out how to show it to you :) [07:24] I keep 10 minutes for 90 [07:24] 30 minutes for 720 [07:24] 180 minutes for 10080 [07:24] ok, cool [07:24] and 86400 for Big Number [07:24] RandalSchwartz: which filesystems do you snapshot? [07:24] zroot recursive:true [07:24] just to keep it simple [07:24] I figure a snap costs very little [07:25] even for /var/empty :) [07:25] RandalSchwartz: ok cool, that's what i was doing [07:25] I think I'm about to change to zfsnap though [07:25] it puts the expiration directly in the name of the snap [07:25] RandalSchwartz: we're talking about your arpnetworks vps, with zfs on root, yes [07:25] indeed [07:26] I hadn't noticed zfsnap until recently [07:26] it removes the ruby dependency [07:26] RandalSchwartz: is it new? [07:26] fairly [07:26] it's an sh script? [07:26] it's pure sh [07:26] yeah [07:26] huh, like portmaster [07:26] yeah, I'm now using portmaster too [07:27] i knew you'd come around ;) [07:27] I like "portmaster -Da" [07:27] because it asks what it's about to do, and I can stop quickly if it's something dangerous [07:27] RandalSchwartz: are you on 8.1? [07:27] not yet [07:27] Have to plan for some uninterrupted downtime for that [07:27] i have three servers to move up, so it'll take a bit [07:27] so you didn't try the boot code updater, etc. [07:28] I've tried it in VMWare [07:28] and yes, you have to add the extra step [07:28] without it, you don't come back [07:28] I've written the authors of the doc online [07:28] and they haven't changed it yet [07:28] so it's a good thing I rehearsed with VMWare [07:29] I need to get up_the_irons to mount 8.1 DVD before I do that though [07:29] since I'll want the 8.1 bootloader [07:29] oh wait... it's done live [07:30] but yeah, I'll want 8.1 mounted at that point [07:30] actually, nothing stops me from having that already [07:30] RandalSchwartz: yes, that's what i've been reading [07:31] RandalSchwartz: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=94557&postcount=19 [07:31] looks like it worked for others as well [07:31] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:32] i should get a freebsd forum account [07:32] RandalSchwartz: how great is your zfs-fu? [07:32] ooh - bookmarking that [07:32] nice [07:33] I'm an advanced beginner on zfs :) [07:33] I just added "thanks" on that post. :) [07:36] RandalSchwartz: i installed zfs on root on a test system, now i'm confused about how the filesystems are setup: http://pastebin.com/Y50jf94C [07:37] lookings [07:37] that looks like opensolaris [07:37] it does that zroot/ROOT/zroot dance [07:37] it's fbd 8 [07:37] really? [07:37] I never got that [07:38] RandalSchwartz: tbh, i'm not sure how i got there ;) it was late, and now i don't remember… [07:38] how did you type your zfs create commands? [07:38] or did you use a script? [07:39] it's a script, let me find it [07:39] yeah - might be something that mimics opensolaris [07:39] what's in your fstab? [07:40] I don't understand how zroot/ROOT/zroot becomes / [07:40] fstab: http://pastebin.com/hr2Qk5zz [07:40] RandalSchwartz: i'm confused about that too [07:40] ok - weird [07:40] must be something in a boot script that fixes it [07:40] too much Heavy Magic [07:41] but probably the same magic that opensol uses [07:41] since that reminds me precisely of my opensol setup on EC2 [07:41] the one I'm no longer using [07:42] for half the price of what we were paying on EC2, I've got maayan.insightcruises.com with twice the power [07:42] heh, cool [07:43] not to mention the kind of responsiveness that up_the_irons is becoming legendary for [08:05] RandalSchwartz: thanks for your help, it gave me some ideas [08:06] i'm going to read up about opensolaris' zroot, and try out zfsnap [08:10] cool [08:11] well - you could also just build your zroot the sane way :) [08:12] RandalSchwartz: that script was so nice and easy…had lots of options, wish i could find it [08:12] heh [08:12] I think I know [08:12] there's a boot stick that installs it [08:12] I'm sticking with pcbsd8.1 now though [08:13] *it* can do a sysinstall *and* pick zfs for root [08:13] pcbsd installer? [08:13] yeah [08:13] but then you install freebsd? [08:13] yes [08:13] woooaaahh! [08:13] indeed [08:13] as in you can install server stuff and not desktop stuff [08:13] do you have a good link for this pcbsd insanity? [08:13] but still use their nice installer [08:14] google might :) [08:14] ... http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/169/11/ [08:14] although you probably want the torrent [08:14] far faster [08:14] ... http://www.gotbsd.net/ [08:15] heh... freebsd 8.1 released on 23 july. pcbsd 8.1 on 21 july [08:15] they were psychic! [08:17] RandalSchwartz: awesome, thanks [08:17] RandalSchwartz: found the script: http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/browser/manageBE/create-zfsboot-gpt_livecd.sh [08:17] yeah - I've seen that one [08:17] it was too rigid for me [08:17] and weird :) [08:18] ok - heading to atlanta... back online latetr... [08:18] thanks again [08:18] have a good tirp [08:18] * RandalSchwartz wanders off [09:24] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [10:28] *** twiggz has joined #arpnetworks [10:29] *** fink_ has quit IRC (Quit: fink_) [10:29] Is the billing cycle running late? [11:05] last month it went on the 3rd [11:11] *** phlux has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:11] *** coil_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:11] *** coil- has joined #arpnetworks [11:11] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [11:36] *** nukeAFK has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:36] *** phlux has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:36] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:38] *** nesta has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:38] *** dxtr has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:38] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:38] *** coil- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:38] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [11:39] *** synack- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:39] *** nakano has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [11:40] *** mhoran has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:41] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [11:43] *** nakano has joined #arpnetworks [11:44] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [11:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [11:44] *** mhoran has joined #arpnetworks [11:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mhoran [11:44] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [11:44] *** nesta has joined #arpnetworks [11:44] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [11:44] *** phlux is now known as Guest77357 [11:45] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [11:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [11:46] *** Guest77357 is now known as phlux [11:47] *** synack- has joined #arpnetworks [11:48] *** dxtr has joined #arpnetworks [11:51] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [11:54] arpnetworks allow small IRCds' yes? [11:54] Yes. [11:55] last question, are discounts available on annual payments? [11:56] I do not know; email support@ for that discussion. 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