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| RandalSchwartz | fink_?
RandalSchwartz waits for fink_ to wake up again | [07:12] |
| fink_ | hi RandalSchwartz
there's a hurricane coming up the coast | [07:15] |
| BarberRonny | Earl | [07:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | east coast, I presume
"Earl's got to die.... gbye earl!" yeah, I'm heading to atlanta... hope that doesn't impinge so what do you want to know about my zfs snaps? | [07:18] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: i was wondering how your yml config file is setup
would pm be better? | [07:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | no - just trying to figure out how to show it to you :)
I keep 10 minutes for 90 30 minutes for 720 180 minutes for 10080 | [07:23] |
| fink_ | ok, cool | [07:24] |
| RandalSchwartz | and 86400 for Big Number | [07:24] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: which filesystems do you snapshot? | [07:24] |
| RandalSchwartz | zroot recursive:true
just to keep it simple I figure a snap costs very little even for /var/empty :) | [07:24] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: ok cool, that's what i was doing | [07:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | I think I'm about to change to zfsnap though
it puts the expiration directly in the name of the snap | [07:25] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: we're talking about your arpnetworks vps, with zfs on root, yes | [07:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | indeed
I hadn't noticed zfsnap until recently it removes the ruby dependency | [07:25] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: is it new? | [07:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | fairly | [07:26] |
| fink_ | it's an sh script? | [07:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's pure sh
yeah | [07:26] |
| fink_ | huh, like portmaster | [07:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah, I'm now using portmaster too | [07:26] |
| fink_ | i knew you'd come around ;) | [07:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | I like "portmaster -Da"
because it asks what it's about to do, and I can stop quickly if it's something dangerous | [07:27] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: are you on 8.1? | [07:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | not yet
Have to plan for some uninterrupted downtime for that i have three servers to move up, so it'll take a bit | [07:27] |
| fink_ | so you didn't try the boot code updater, etc. | [07:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've tried it in VMWare
and yes, you have to add the extra step without it, you don't come back I've written the authors of the doc online and they haven't changed it yet so it's a good thing I rehearsed with VMWare I need to get up_the_irons to mount 8.1 DVD before I do that though since I'll want the 8.1 bootloader oh wait... it's done live but yeah, I'll want 8.1 mounted at that point actually, nothing stops me from having that already | [07:28] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: yes, that's what i've been reading
RandalSchwartz: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=94557&postcount=19 looks like it worked for others as well | [07:30] |
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| fink_ | i should get a freebsd forum account
RandalSchwartz: how great is your zfs-fu? | [07:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | ooh - bookmarking that
nice I'm an advanced beginner on zfs :) I just added "thanks" on that post. :) | [07:32] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: i installed zfs on root on a test system, now i'm confused about how the filesystems are setup: http://pastebin.com/Y50jf94C | [07:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | lookings
that looks like opensolaris it does that zroot/ROOT/zroot dance | [07:37] |
| fink_ | it's fbd 8 | [07:37] |
| RandalSchwartz | really?
I never got that | [07:37] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: tbh, i'm not sure how i got there ;) it was late, and now i don't remember… | [07:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | how did you type your zfs create commands?
or did you use a script? | [07:38] |
| fink_ | it's a script, let me find it | [07:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - might be something that mimics opensolaris
what's in your fstab? I don't understand how zroot/ROOT/zroot becomes / | [07:39] |
| fink_ | fstab: http://pastebin.com/hr2Qk5zz
RandalSchwartz: i'm confused about that too | [07:40] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok - weird
must be something in a boot script that fixes it too much Heavy Magic but probably the same magic that opensol uses since that reminds me precisely of my opensol setup on EC2 the one I'm no longer using for half the price of what we were paying on EC2, I've got maayan.insightcruises.com with twice the power | [07:40] |
| fink_ | heh, cool | [07:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | not to mention the kind of responsiveness that up_the_irons is becoming legendary for | [07:43] |
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| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: thanks for your help, it gave me some ideas
i'm going to read up about opensolaris' zroot, and try out zfsnap | [08:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | cool
well - you could also just build your zroot the sane way :) | [08:10] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: that script was so nice and easy…had lots of options, wish i could find it | [08:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | heh
I think I know there's a boot stick that installs it I'm sticking with pcbsd8.1 now though *it* can do a sysinstall *and* pick zfs for root | [08:12] |
| fink_ | pcbsd installer? | [08:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah | [08:13] |
| fink_ | but then you install freebsd? | [08:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | yes | [08:13] |
| fink_ | woooaaahh! | [08:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | indeed
as in you can install server stuff and not desktop stuff | [08:13] |
| fink_ | do you have a good link for this pcbsd insanity? | [08:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | but still use their nice installer
google might :) ... http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/169/11/ although you probably want the torrent far faster ... http://www.gotbsd.net/ heh... freebsd 8.1 released on 23 july. pcbsd 8.1 on 21 july they were psychic! | [08:13] |
| fink_ | RandalSchwartz: awesome, thanks
RandalSchwartz: found the script: http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/browser/manageBE/create-zfsboot-gpt_livecd.sh | [08:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - I've seen that one
it was too rigid for me and weird :) ok - heading to atlanta... back online latetr... | [08:17] |
| fink_ | thanks again
have a good tirp | [08:18] |
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| twiggz | Is the billing cycle running late? | [10:29] |
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| toddf | last month it went on the 3rd | [11:05] |
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| ahmed | arpnetworks allow small IRCds' yes? | [11:54] |
| mike-burns | Yes. | [11:54] |
| ahmed | last question, are discounts available on annual payments? | [11:55] |
| mike-burns | I do not know; email support@ for that discussion. | [11:56] |
| ahmed | thanks | [11:56] |
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