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Looks like the PCBSD-8.1 DVDs might be the right thing to mount and build from.... they can build FreeBSD or PCBSD, and use ZFS for root! [07:56] I'm downloading now to test [10:00] yeah - pcbsd was *much* easier to install, even installing freebsd [10:00] and it made a root zfs just fine [10:00] nifty :) [10:01] no more "kldload /mnt/foo/bar/opensolaris.ko" crap [10:10] I'm running it inside virtualbox [10:10] virtualbox can do live migration... and I want to test that [10:12] Watch out ... don't want to get sued by Oracle. [10:18] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [10:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [10:24] I love how installing portupgrade on a new system installs both Perl *and* Ruby. :) [10:24] "no no, one scripting language was NOT enough for us" [10:25] RandalSchwartz: And that's why you should use portmaster ;) [10:25] portmaster. [10:25] :) [10:26] Nope. Did you see the thread just now in fbsd users? [10:26] portmaster *doesn't* auto recover from failure [10:26] portupgrade will reinstall the previous pack automatically if things go bad [10:27] so it's ok if it needs more support, because it's doing more for more [10:27] for me [10:28] details [10:32] indeed [10:57] humph, qos [12:05] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [12:29] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:30] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [13:18] *** schmir has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:21] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:25] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:25] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:33] *** schmir has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:38] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [15:23] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:25] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:26] *** 13WAA9YU4 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [15:26] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [15:26] *** coil_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:32] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [15:39] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:22] *** nesta has quit IRC (Quit: later skater!) 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[19:52] *** phlux is now known as Guest65811 [19:52] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [19:52] sup with routing [19:52] Oh hey I somehow stayed connected? [19:52] ??? [19:53] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:53] *** mhoran_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:53] Win. [19:53] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [19:53] v6 routing seemed to drop. [19:53] v4 was fine. [19:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [19:54] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [19:54] oh [19:54] *** RandalSchwartz has left [19:54] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [19:54] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:55] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [19:55] WIN [19:55] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [19:55] tes [19:55] testing [19:55] there... now it's working [19:58] Yeah, we're back. :) [19:59] v6 dropped for a while there. [19:59] it dropped again for me [19:59] Hm. [19:59] yeah [19:59] for me too [20:01] annoying [21:17] sup doodz [21:18] Tired. [21:18] Headache. [21:19] im on my iphone :D on my vps :) [21:27] *** Guest65811 is now known as phlux [21:29] nifty :) [21:29] an ipad may be more appropriate though ;) [21:30] I tried one out in a best buy.. looked pretty sweet [21:30] even had internet on it too at the store, so i got to try safari online [21:30] I guess its called safari on there too [21:37] im considering one but a kindle dx is more likely [21:47] * RandalSchwartz retries pcbsd with x64 version [21:47] so far so good [21:53] IPv6Freely: isn't that just for ebooks? [21:53] IPv6Freely: I'd kinda considered a sony reader [21:54] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [21:55] RandalSchwartz: trying to get pcbsd/x64 with zfs going? [21:55] yeah [21:55] hmm. it booted once, but isn't rebooting. [21:56] that doesn't sound good [21:57] and it could be virtualbxo too [21:57] it's waiting on usbus1 [21:57] ahh, just had to wait another 10 secs [21:58] cool :) [22:09] yeah, it's working ok [22:15] building stuff now [22:16] speaking of which, I need to spin up on nagios quickly [22:16] oh wait, there might be an o'reilly book on that [22:16] mattx86: thats exactly what its for :) [22:18] oh, tehre's many [22:18] RandalSchwartz: you might even check out CactiEZ; I just found out about it yesterday, but anyways, it also has nagios [22:18] RandalSchwartz: you want to look at the nagios book by wolfgang barth [22:18] RandalSchwartz: its the best nagios book ive found out there. [22:18] RandalSchwartz: also, the #nagios people are great. [22:19] I was a heavy nagios user at my last job :D [22:19] how about the one from Dave Josephsen [22:19] I get that for free [22:19] theres lots of things that integrate cacti and nagios and such, i just personally prefer to keep them all seperate... seems to be better as far as updating [22:19] havent read that one [22:20] IPv6Freely: ah, right. I just don't know that I would use too many ebooks, at least, when you consider what all isn't available (tech material, at least) [22:20] Building a monitoring infrastructure with nagios [22:20] i had my nagios install super tweaked. I had my core routers notifying me within 10 seconds of failure, with not a single false positive in 3 years. [22:21] mattx86: tons of tech material. not from the kindle store, but theyre 100% PDF compatible so id just load all my books on there that way [22:21] mattx86: considered an ipad, but the e-ink is more valuable to me than all the ipad functions combined. [22:21] i cant read off an LCD screen [22:22] i can use a computer all day long, but when it comes to reading a big block of text, i swear i go crosseyed and lose focus [22:23] IPv6Freely: orly? see, I have at least one tech PDF I'd like to use on such a device, but a year or so ago, it meant you'd have to convert it to the device's format if you wanted proper text flow (or w/e they called it) [22:23] yea, they had a software update a while back that completely changed that [22:23] now its native pdf capable [22:23] ooh :) [22:23] And being a network consultant, having my books with me is incredibly valuable [22:24] kindle dx right? [22:24] yea, dx [22:24] how much do they go for nowadays? [22:24] the regular one is a 6" screen, perfect for novels, crap for tech books [22:24] they JUST refreshed the hardware a few weeks ago, so theyre kinda pricey [22:24] DX is 299 i think [22:24] ah [22:25] wow, was i ever off [22:25] http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-DX-Wireless-Reader-3G-Global/dp/B002GYWHSQ/ref=kin3w_ddp_compare_title3 [22:25] 379 apparently [22:25] ouch, that's rich [22:25] yea. i wanted a QUE, which was like 849 or some ridiculous price, but it was an e-reader designed specifically for business use [22:26] it did ms word, ppt, excel, etc as well as read ebooks [22:26] *** boogeyman has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:26] but, that got cancelled last week :( [22:26] the ipads are nice, and would be useful for a traveller such as myself, but without e-ink, the rest of the cool stuff is irrelevant [22:27] yeah, I see what you mean [22:27] nice to hear, the ipad fanboys just argue with me about it [22:27] I think the sony does the extras, but honestly, unless or until sony supports native PDF viewing, it's no dice [22:28] and believe me, if anyoneis an apple fanboy its me... but thats just because my mantra is and has always been: "best tool for the job", which means a macbook pro for a laptop, and i phone for a phone, and a kindle for an ebook reader. [22:28] (extras like word, ppt, excel and so forth) [22:28] the sony is nice, but it doesnt have a large-scale model like the kindle DX, it only has the small novel-sized model. and i dont know about pdf support. [22:29] the ipad fanboys argue about how much more stuff i get with an ipad... and i just cant convince them that a device that doesnt do my #1 needed function is worthless to me, no matter how many other things i can do. [22:29] well, they have an "every day" version I think it's called, that's supposed to be bigger than at least the pocket versions [22:30] true [22:30] like if i wanted to fly, telling me i could get a car with more features for the same price is absolutely irrelevant [22:30] heh, yeah :) [22:31] im going to try to convince our SD to buy kindle DX's for the whole team [22:31] Build up a database of tech book PDFs, and we can all have this huge library with us wherever we go [22:32] i just wish Safari worked on the kindle ... oh my god that'd be epic. [22:33] though, im sure safari would work perfectly on the ipad... which i suppose kind of sways my decision a bit [22:35] sorry, babbling to myself [22:39] nah, sorry, I was chatting in another window :) [22:39] that does sound like a good idea [22:40] esp. if safari worked on it :) [22:40] the ultimate knowledgebase in your hands [22:56] indeed [23:10] *** boogeyman has joined #arpnetworks [23:28] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [23:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns